the scooby doo plot: stingray, 'we're running out of air'! etc

As for Stingray, I liked that. I liked to imitate the way they moved, floaty, jerking gestures. When you turn around, you turn on your heels and pretend your hands are weightless. It used to drive my family insane, because it makes you very clumsy and the calmly vacant stare is probably unnerving coming from a six year old.

I assumed that Aquamarina couldnt talk because she was like the Little Mermaid. In the version of the story that I had, when the Little Mermaid gives up her Mermaidness and becomes human, she suffers extreme pain and being with her true love prince means giving up her voice. Reading that book, my legs used to feel achey on her behalf.

1) Have no money
2) Meet a record producer
3) Prance about on the beach
4) One of them will fall in love and subsequently break up
5) Sing one of their catchy tunes

I sometimes think it's just a promotional tool to sell more cds to kids.

In Stingray, I always hated Marina. She was evil.

*not actually true as testified by classic drunk driving episode. Hunk completely unharmed - I'm fine yeah just some bruises hey I was stupid - Alicia-Silverstone-but-not-actually goes off to make crap jokes with sitcom staple black friend, comes back 5 mins later and he is DEAD. Bad luck eh. But next week she was back at it with somebody else, phew.

They used to have a noughts and crosses game over the closing credits, where the goody robots were the noughts and the baddy robots were the crosses, and sometimes the baddies would cheat (and win) by just knocking the goodies out of the way!

If the baddies won I'd be in a really grumpy mood all Saturday afternoon, because those games introduced me to the profound unfairness of life for the first time: brute force winning over those who played by the rules. Not even Saint and Greavsie (for US - genius soccer prog) could cheer me up.

I think the cocktail was just called 'pink ice' cos the actual pink ice tasted nasty and chemically - that's how they knew it was evil aliens and not a freak natural phenomenon.

I have only ever seen one episode of stingray...

Liz

Rainy, you have either not watched Scooby-Doo in a while or you are completely insane, for Shaggy and Scooby had to do everything on this show. They were the ghost-bait: five minutes in, the others would convince them to split up by bribing them with Scooby Snacks, knowing full well that they'd just see the ghost and come running back, scared shitless -- meanwhile, Fred and Daphne are off in a closet somewhere while Velma wanders around looking at footprints. And once Velma's figured out the exceedingly easy mystery ("Let's see, we've only met one person this episode, so I'm guessing it's him..."), they'd send Scooby and Shaggy in (more Scooby Snacks) to lure the damn monster out in the open to be trapped.

Add to this the fact that Scooby and Shaggy don't even want to solve mysteries, and would in every case rather just move on and get something to eat, and it begins to look like outright cruelty on the part of the other three. So don't even start criticizing Shagg and Scoob. Don't even.

Oh, and true to form, there were ghosts, Velma was looking at footprints, Scooby and Shaggy got forced into seeing / discovering the ghosts and Scrappy was an irritatingly punchable little shitbag.

fucking hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ZzQMbgBH0

You fucking monsters

i just watched that again to confirm how many people i want to kill and the fucker that voiced Raggy is going first

no wait the motherfucker that voiced Scooby

This is why I like Ilxor. The original two messages, from 18 October 2001, actually smell of marijuana - I can smell it coming out of the screen. And now I've learned about a new Scooby Doo movie where they get Shaggy wrong. He sounds as if he was autotuned.

Nobody asked for this.

Nobody wants this.

It will gross $600 million.

If it's any consolation, my 8 year-old so who absolutely loves Scooby Doo, saw this and said, "looks fake and they don't sound right". Seems like a big miss if you can't hit the eight year-old mark with this.

the fucking cop asking the middle name of the dog

Was a time when a Popeye and Son or a Fred and Barney Meet the Thing would be consigned to a 13-episode run at 9:30 on a Saturday and, once the failed-at-the-point-of-conception experiment had blessedly run its course, it would be swept under the rug and forgotten by most right-thinking people. But like backpacks and party hats and, I dunno, fidget spinners from this animated upper-decker are going to be lingering in the dusty corners of thrift stores for decades to come, taunting us with memories of the trailer that finally and decisively kicked the foundation stone out of what once was our naïve faith in a human culture worthy of celebration.

let's turn this thread into the sic-denounces-the-watchmen-scandal of worthless cartoons

FWIW my outrage in this instance is like 98% feigned for comedic effect because I kinda think Scooby-Doo was a garbage cartoon out the gate but YMMV I suppose.

lol I have not opened that thread for many reasons also how dare you disparage Scrooby Doo

our culture would be far poorer without a quotation for describing the reason you failed to get away with some kind of transgression

I apologize most profusely for the disrespect I've shown to Mr. Scoobert Doo.

he's bad and you should feel good

i feel the same way abt watchmen the comic but i'm not going to say so on that thread lol

all comics are worthless except the Victor and Krazy Kat

correct and i won't rest until lindelhof makes them both into a film

I would pay top dollar for an Alf Tupper movie tbh

https://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/7265990-L.jpg

also if it wasn't for Scrooby Doo how would I ever have learned to identify a beatnik in the wild?

I learn from the Daily Mail, no less, that "Scoob! is the first film in the new Hanna-Barbera Cinematic Universe which will revive cartoon classics for the big screen like The Jetsons, The Flintstones and Wacky Races".

The grammar of that subheadline annoys me. Such as. Not like. Such as. "...in a new Hanna-Barbera Cinematic universe that will revive cartoon classics for the big screen such as The Jetsons, The Flintstones, and The Wacky Races". Apparently the new film has a surprise villain, because they're trying to link all of those cartoons together.

My money is on Taylor Swift as Penelope Pitstop. I am surprised to learn that Peugeot, of all companies, did a much-better-than-it-should-have-been stab at a live action Wacky Races back in 2013:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcnsRrXzBC0

yr right abt the grammar but yr wrong abt the weed

shared jetsons/flintstones universe seems like it'd have some real exhausting plots

talk abt running out of air

Oh cool, it's been a couple months since we had a new cinematic universe that will die on the vine two films in.

This is like announcing that your new restaurant is just the first of twelve. Maybe see how people like the food before getting that fifth mortgage.

The "2020" at the end felt like a threat. The year is ruined already. This movie will come out, Trump will be reelected and they'll make a sequel with Scrappy.

Scrappy will turn out to be the mystery villain no never mind that's already been done

This is like announcing that your new restaurant is just the first of twelve. Maybe see how people like the food before getting that fifth mortgage.

I edit manuscripts for a literary agency and every other fucking one I get is so blatantly the first volume in a trilogy. It's mind-melting.

Nobody trusts a fantasy novel that doesn't fill at least 3 doorstop-sized books.

it's amazing how good matthew lillard was as shaggy. LIKE, those movies were shit, but lillard was great and he kept doing voice acting for the animated shows LIKE mystery incorporated. and then an snl rando does the voice and it's, like, wrong, scoob.

pssst mystery incorporated was pretty good

It took Twin Peaks for me to finally reflect and accept that I really like the work of Matthew Lillard.

Not that this movie doesn’t look wretched, but Will Forte isn’t exactly an “SNL rando.” It’s not like he’s Luke Null.

'Nice to meet you'

Dear god, that was Will Forte? Why, Will? Why? I mean, I know: $$$. Actually, the better question is why the studio forked over $$$ for Will Forte to deliver something that is neither Will Forte nor Shaggy and that, as such, pretty much anyone with vocal cords could've provided? I'll do a shitty Shaggy for half his pay! A quarter, even! And I can actually do a passable Casey Kasum! 'And now, a request and dedication.' See? Not bad, eh? And have no qualms about helping you to ruin this property! Call me.

helping you to ruin this property

i checked in with rainy on twitter to see if her scooby hate was still pure, but she has a 6-yr-old now and says it has necessarily dwindled to live and let live, which i cannot approve

Rooby Rooby Roo, ree hee hee hee!

I don't hate Scooby-Doo, I just find most of the Hanna-Barbera joints to be pretty rote and flavorless. Scoob would be fine if they'd just stopped with the first series. Maybe a special here and there featuring Batman and/or the Harlem Globetrotters. But it's a pretty thin formula to be reheating for the 417th time in 2020.

I actually only just recently realized how short some of the original runs of these shows were relative to how ubiquitous the properties later became (e.g. The Jetsons, which consisted of a whopping 24 episodes until the '80s).

^^^this is a generally interesting point actually -- hunting for something i went to look up the longest-running TV series or soap opera, assuming it would be some 50s thing i'd read of but never seen. but the really long-running shows tend to be much more recent (and often still going). even eternal and immovable golden age classics like we love lucy or peyton place were only like five-six seasons long (tho of course in repeats they then re-established a different kind of unendingness)

It took Twin Peaks for me to finally reflect and accept that I really like the work of Matthew Lillard.

did you get hit on the head at some point in the last two decades and forget all about wing commander or

I've been saving that one, like the chocolate in the sampler box that I just know will be my favorite when I finally get around to it.

But yes, I've been hit on the head many, many times. Many times. Many.

as we all know, nothing ages better than chocolate

Other original iterations of H-B shows:

Scooby-Doo, Where Are You! (1969-70), 41 episodes
Johnny Quest (1964-65), 26 episodes

at 11 i definitely thought matthew lillard in wing commander was extremely cool

come on he's awesome in Serial Mom and Hackers stop playing

hunting for something i went to look up the longest-running TV series or soap opera,

^ this is Coronation Street, right?

I haven't seen it in years but I really liked SLC Punk back in the day.

coronation street will be 60 next year, yes

radio drama: the archers will be 70 lol

Between 1988 and 1989, many aspects of the show were modernised by new producer David Liddiment.

~ squints at letters until they reshape into Damon Lindelhof ~


In spite of updated sets and production changes, Coronation Street still received criticism. In 1992, chairman of the Broadcasting Standards Council, Lord Rees-Mogg, criticised the low representation of ethnic minorities, and the programme's portrayal of the cosy familiarity of a bygone era.

meanwhile at home in a glass nursery, Nanny wheels in a pram full of stones

that successful Rees-Mogg campaign for diversity in full, or amusing wikivandalism? let’s never find out

Black and Asian characters had appeared, but it was not until 1999 that the show featured its first regular non-white family, the Desai family. There was also an Irish Traveller family who made a brief appearance for 4 episodes – spear headed by famous Irish actress Rachael McCrudden who played the part of Josie Joyce and her husband Conor McCrudden ( Jonjo Joyce). They were written off after they went on a rampage of drinking Dutch Gold and were caught by police after holding up the local Des Kelly carpets looking for wet finish Lino.

JRM's father criticised the low representation of ethnic minorities?

xp

and the programme's portrayal of the cosy familiarity of a bygone era.

The Tories actively destroyed cosiness and familiarity, so that's a point for him tbf

truly ripped from 2007’s headlines

her daughter, Bethany Platt (who had been in an ecstasy storyline earlier that year, in which she discovered her uncle David's stash of the drug he was looking after for a friend in one of her dolls, and ended up in hospital after she ate them).

evergreen issue

From what I remember ITV's plan was that *Albion Market* would be the realistic alternative to *Coronation Street* - e.g. it had a handful of characters with Indian and Chinese ancestry - but it was a massive flop that only lasted a year. The BBC's *EastEnders*, which was also supposed to be the realistic alternative to *Coronation Street*, was much more successful.

I remember being astonished to learn that there were technically only two series of *The Vicar of Dibley*, broadcast in 1994 and 1998, with six and four episodes respectively. It ran concurrently with *Father Ted*, but whereas I always knew that *Ted* had a short run, *Dibley* was one of those things that always seemed to be on. Like *Bread* and *May to December*, it seemed to never end. There were intermittent specials but in total there were only twenty episodes. I have not seen any of them, nor do I have any desire to see any of them.

There were surprisingly few episodes of the classic 1970s *Columbo* - about forty or so of the classic 1970s version - because it was part of a revolving mystery movie of the week strand that also had *McCloud* and something else. That was the period in US television when detective shows almost always had the main character's surname. For some reason this paragraph made me seek out the following video, which reveals that almost every new TV show in America in 1979 began with an overhead shot of traffic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU

The thing is that here in the UK all of those shows looked impossibly glamorous, filled with characters living in unattainable luxury, and that's why Thatcherism happened.

shockingly old when I learned I have probably seen more than half of all Vicar Of Dibley episodes.

There were surprisingly few episodes of the classic 1970s *Columbo* - about forty or so of the classic 1970s version - because it was part of a revolving mystery movie of the week strand

been watching a moderate lot of Columbo (cherry-picking for writers & directors & guest stars) for the first time lately, and there's no way they could have made more and stayed good: each one is feature-length (74-100 minutes), all single-camera 35mm set-ups, mostly locations, no repeated sets, no formula to story, etc

the big revelation to me was how long it took to become as much of a series as that: a one-off anthology episode in July 1960 was rewritten as a stage play in 1962, then adapted as a telemovie starring Falk (dressed & behaving more professionally) in 1968, then another three years later they made another one-off telemovie, and finally made the first series of telemovies six months after that, in September 1971.

no formula to story

ok i <3 columbo with my life but this seems a tough line to stick to

I can't believe there were only 20 episodes of vic o dib, stone the crows

“cop solves crime at the end” is not a story

first of all yes it is

haha someone mistook maryann for a pot smoker, she will love that

The stoners of yore

the stoners of yore mom