What the fuck is the idea with 'Jam' ?

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I'm just watching the first episode of this TV series. What are people's general thoughts on this? It's really morbid and somewhat disturbing. Not quite sure what to think at this point.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 09:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"Brass Eye" is prob funnier

Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Brass Eye is funnier, but Jam is ace. Both this and the radio show that spawned it ("Blue Jam") are the best things Chris Morris has done. To call it a comedy is somewhat missing the point - it scacres the sh1t out of me more than making me laugh. My life is a better place with it in.

Highlights include the kid who sorts things out, and the suicide by jumping off the first floor balcony.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:05 (twenty-two years ago)

i actually avoided it when it was on as i figured i wouldn't find it that funny, the radio series seems more humourous and accessible.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm pretty sure Jam was Chris Morris proving that he could put any old crap on TV and people would still call it genius because it was done by Chris Morris.

Search: the Adam and Joe parody of it ("You must... bugger the baby")

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Can we just turn this thread into random lines from Jam or Blue Jam?

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Right now my biggest fear is definitely getting the Gush.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

it's DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRKK, innit, buggering a dead baby < /rubbish welsh accent>

dom OTM i think

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris Morris proving that he could put any old crap on TV
Perhaps, but it would still throw up extraordinary scenes nothing like you'd ever expect to see. The plumber who fixed the baby - if other people hadn't seen it I'd swear I dreamt the whole show. dream being the show's touchstone.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Right now my biggest fear is definitely getting the Gush.

Just watching that right now. Fully insane.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus Christ! The lovesick suicidal who puts himself in a woodchipper and sprays his ex with himself!! WTF!!

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, from Blue Jam: (http://www.thejim.iofm.net/bjamep22.html)

Okay, beachflies, some truly hexagonal dope on this weekend at the pop sheds and flash tunnels. Right? Oh, no, that's ridiculous. Right.

Loads of noise breaking out over Yorkshire, mainly due to DJ Amyll Rightmate, featuring some nice trad garage at the Salty Glob in Leeds. He uses guns, by the way, and there's no floor in the club at all.

Bit of a clash in Hull, with the Fabattoir and the Bauble right next door to each other. At the Fab, it's the Comical Beggars with two nervous guitarists doing strum and base, while the Baub have DJ Guts featuring the classic sounds of the seventh of January, 1998. I'll always remember going absolutely bald to that brilliant Sister Wendy remix of "My Fly Had Puppies" by Balbarigmus.

But back to now. It's seven-four tour night at the Fussy Brenda in Cardiff. So, that'll just be those three geezers again, and that one lady if she turns up, each paying two hundred pounds on the door, and each, I have to say, ignoring the other three, and acting like they owned the place, and it was their home, and they were watching television on a Wednesday.

Ooh! Ooh, agh. Ooh, sorry, I'm still getting flashbacks from New Year, when I saw Keith Flint being rushed to hospital after claiming he could eat sodium. What a classic flourish!

Saturday at the Vag in Glasgow, an all-nighter with DJ Boiled Mouse. Ahh... yes. Making that creepy whistle of a noise, and expecting people to dance? Come on! By half ten he's always in a tizz, claiming no-one understands him, and by midnight he's usually being fished out of a nearby canal, after another failed attempt to snuff his very naff little candle. So if you do go to that, leave the bollock to drown.

Hey, Portishead. When you play live, how about some strip-hop? Boozy girl naked. Very pleasant.

At the Tube of Toothpaste in Reading, it's another fat lip all-nighter. Huge discounts if you let the bouncers lamp you on the way in. With DJ Lemsip and Catatonia's Cerys ironing beans in the background. Nicely understated, that. Like a bomb made out of jazz and feathers. Last time I was there, I spent quite a lot of time in the knob out room.

And finally, at the Loaded Knife in Brixton, entrance is free if you turn up with a haircut. DJ Microclimate churns out tons of little beat. They've got a couple of ill sea lions there, to test your drugs on, but make sure you know what an off-colour sea lion looks like. And I'm told at six a.m. there's a break in the music that lasts until June the fifteenth, when the show will reconvene for a further five minutes.

Right? Oh, no, that's ridiculous. Right. I'm off to the Jumping Up and Down in Camden, where it's Dead Certain night to the beat of some steaming blazen midriff. Ooh, oily, oh, boily! Will I be some fresh jazz kill by three?

Night night, Jarvis!

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

But if three men came at you, you WOULD beat them off?

Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Alan OTM with that chunk especially as it was voiced, in several stripes of reassuring woodstain, by the late Michael Alexander St John. That and the extraordinary monologues (one of which led to the slightly flat short film My Wrongs) were the highlights of Blue Jam and no replication was attempted in jam.

Many of the sketches didn't transfer well to TV but I was reminded last year, when working on the DVD subs, just how fantastic a lot of it was. Morris clearly loved the A&J parody because it's tucked away somewhere on the DVD (see also: Black Books).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved the camerawork, which you didn't get on the radio show.

The Adam & Joe version was great too.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Blue Jam was brilliant, until the extreme stuff in some of the later shows. The woozy, chemically sedated monologues were the best bits (my memory has retained only one line: 'i was pissing like a king').
Jam was unwatchable and smug. Along with the Brass Eye special the worst thing he's done. I forced myself to watch both series and was treated to a televisual recreation of the tragic, unfunny vile stuff he perpetrated late on in the radio version. Crap. A&J nailed it.

pete s, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to say I don't recall a darkening, more extreme nature to the BJ stuff as he went on - and the jam sketches seemed culled from all three radio series (most of the Doctor ones were early, weren't they? And Unconcerned Parents and Crucifixion Acupuncture were definitely first series [maybe that's not what you mean.]) The new non-radio material was split between squirmy appalling stuff (Estate Agent) and gleeful whimsy (Early Funeral).

(That last sentence looks ridiculous if you don't know what I'm referring to.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, no, that's ridiculous. Right.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

What the fuck is the idea with 'Jam' ?

It's Boohbah for grown-ups.

mmmmsalt (Graeme), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Boohbah for grown-ups.

Oh, I wish I'd said that.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a DVD?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep...it's a two disc set with all the episodes of Jam on one and all the episodes Jaaam on the other. It also includes a load of extras (including Adam and Joe's 'Goiter') as well as a few options for making it even less unwatchable (small bouncing screen version).

I hadn't seen the series when it was on TV, and was really excited about the DVD (which I ordered from Amazon.co.uk)...it was kind of a let down though. I agree that the format worked much better as a radio show.

mmmmsalt (Graeme), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course, judicious substance abuse might make it more compelling...

mmmmsalt (Graeme), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Jam is ace, not entirely consistent but the good parts are great.

the sketch with the couple buying the house is absolutely brilliant. Also the paranoid intros to the episodes, the best of which is the one featuring the line "they crown you king canteloupe" etc.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Vastly inferior to The Armando Ianucci Shows, though, surely?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Well it's not quite the same I guess.

I think alot of what Morris was trying to do with Jam was make fun of all the "pre-millenial angst" bullshit that you heard people refer to in relation to Radiohead or whatever. The intro to the first episode with the line "arms and legs flailing, gawky bez" was so so funny.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I think you can draw certain parallels between both shows though, insofar as they were both vehicle products for former new wave of new wave of British comedy figureheads, both of them rely on an ensemble cast of minor British comedy character actors, and both of them have as their main schitck surreal takes on every day situations.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

you are all on crack.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

you just don't have a clue do you?!

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure those are thematic parallels though. I mean "surreal takes on every day situations" is a really general description of any comedy.

I think Jam isn't solely comedy in the same way that Brass Eye isn't, it's as much about the how ridiculously the English language can be harnessed as it is about actually being funny.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd like to know more about this Adam and Joe spoof.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Vastly inferior to The Armando Ianucci Shows, though, surely?

Not vastly, but yeah, I'd go along with that. Iannucci's show may never see the light of day on DVD - VCI don't think it'll be a big seller and the music clearance issues (Sinatra, Arvo Part, etc) make it a deeply unattractive project for them. Which, considering it took C4 over two years to get round to repeating the thing and then they only screened six of eight episodes, is a big shame. AI on Yes, Minister for the Beeb's sitcom self-love sesh was nice an' all but no substitute.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Armando Iannucci? Was that the same as the dreadful Saturday Night Armistice? I can't bear him as a performer/host. There was one brilliant sketch on the Christmas special involving a Lord of the Flies type classroom experiment, though.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

There was one brilliant sketch on the Christmas special involving a Lord of the Flies type classroom experiment, though.

Think that standard, over an entire series and you have The Armando Iannucci Shows. But I had a lot of time for Armistice and you didn't, so I may not be able to convince you on this one. But the Shows were of a completely different tenor; no braying audience, no clinging to the soggy trouser-leg of topicality. Just sad and slow and brilliant.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"Who did we go and see? Oh yes, Newman and Baddiel!"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the old man in the armando iannucci show. When they repeated it it was much worse than the first time. They should have used a scotch as advertised by the skeleton. Of course it wasn't called drum'n'bass, in our day it was all jungle.

see ar (see ar), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"And he'd say "We don't want to give you that!". And it was very funny. For the first series"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

Watching this after hearing it was a Chris Morris show. Jeez.

Seems like a show best consumed about 4-5 in the morning right before the sun comes up and you've been up for the previous 20+ hours or so.

kingfish, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:47 (seventeen years ago)

Blue Jam was designed to go out at 3am, so, yeah.

energy flash gordon, Sunday, 27 April 2008 07:53 (seventeen years ago)

I can see why. Neat when I can identify the music, at least.

kingfish, Sunday, 27 April 2008 08:25 (seventeen years ago)


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