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"this impure race, fleeing before the sword of sesostris, or the exterminating knife of the jews, had found itself driven to the sea and taken the coast for its country. only the unrestrained licentiousness of the modern malabar compares with the abominations with these sodoms of phoenicia. generations of uncertain lineage overran that place, noone knowing his father's identity, giving birth, multiplying randomly, like the indigenous insects and reptiles, which, after a rainstorm, swarm over their burning shores. they even spoke of themselves as born of slime"
- michelet, histories of the roman empire
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:30 (seventeen years ago)
wos that about - Cochin Jews?
― Heave Ho, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:38 (seventeen years ago)
amazing!
xpost
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:38 (seventeen years ago)
yeah funny that (kingdom of) israel never included the gaza strip
― gff, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:45 (seventeen years ago)
he's talking about the carthaginians who - defeated by rome - fled to phoenicia
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:54 (seventeen years ago)
apropos of nothing, just came across it in some reading and i thought it was awesomely LOL
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:55 (seventeen years ago)
"on the contrary what i like about the orient is a certain unselfconscious grandeur and harmoniousness of disparate things. i recall having seen a bather who on his left arm had a silver bracelet and on the other a vesicatory. this is the true orient, and consequently, the poetic one as well: rag-bedecked scoundrels covered in vermin. if you leave them alone, these vermin form golden arabesques in the sun"
- flaubert, correspondences, volume 3, pp 136-137
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:59 (seventeen years ago)
michelet was a big influence on flaubert. i'm reading about "salammbo".
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:00 (seventeen years ago)
the phoenecians were pretty slick
― gff, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:04 (seventeen years ago)
malabar is Phoenicia ?!?!??!!
― Heave Ho, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:08 (seventeen years ago)
"you tell me kuchuk jhanem's bugs degrade her in your eyes. for me they were the most enchanting touch of all. their noxious odor mixed with the smell of her skin which was dripping in sandalwood oil. i want there to be a bitter taste to everything, always a jeer in the midst of our triumphs, and a desolation to our enthusiasm. which reminds me of Jaffa, where, on entering the city, i smelled an odor at once of lemon trees and cadavers. in the ruined cemetary, half-rotted skeletons lay uncovered while green bushes dangled their golden fruit over our heads. don't you feel the completeness of such poetry, that it is the great synthesis?" - flaubert, same letter
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:08 (seventeen years ago)
no, he's saying "the only modern comparison to the pervertedness of these phoenicians, which i will also compare to sodom, would be malabar"
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:09 (seventeen years ago)
some wicked perverse malomar action round my end, ugetme
― gff, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:10 (seventeen years ago)
"jerusalem is a charnel house surrounded by walls. everything there is rotting; the dead dogs in the streets, the religions in the churches: there is a great deal of shit and many ruins lying about ... the holy sepulcher is the agglomeration of all possible curses." - flaubert, bruneau correspondence volume i pg 665
"in another brothel we screwed some tolerable greek and armenian women" - ibid pg 730
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:12 (seventeen years ago)
there is a great line by, er, somebody, about how the world would be a much better place if Jerusalem had in the past had a functioning lunatic asylum.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 13:11 (seventeen years ago)
there's another line by, er, somebody that I like:
"I may not know much about art, but I know what I like. I'm not a complete palestine, you know."
― Bob Six, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago)
http://64.233.183.104/search?&q=%22I%27m+not+a+complete+palestine%22
― Heave Ho, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 13:50 (seventeen years ago)
The man who is now Ireland's leader once said that he wished to turn Temple Bar into "Dublin's West Bank".
he succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago)