Parents of criminals

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Does crime run in families? Should criminals be allowed to have kids? And isomebody does a crime and their family knows about it, should the relatives grass on them?

dave q, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

See, I just find it puzzling why other families can't be cultured, stable and well-off as mine. Laziness?

dave q, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Crime always runs in families. I've yet to see an adult with criminal tendencies whose child hasn't developed the same tendencies. Once you remove the psychological barrier to committing crime, then everything is permissible and all things are possible. A child who grows up without learning the virtues of restraint will almost always commit crime.

Trevor, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Trevor, bite your tongue. My father's been in prison for over a dozen years and none of us has developed his pathological criminalities. We're stand up citzens, we are.

Samantha, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Crime is arbitrary anyway. There are things that are criminal in your country that are not in mine etc.

I am committing a criminal offence everytime I manipulate someones back, how ridiculous is that! Whilst we have such stupid laws then I can only hope that if I were to have children that they would have the confidence in their own judgement to decide for themselves what they are and aren't going to do, regardless of whether it is a crime or not.

So, I suppose you could say that I agree to some extent with Trevor when he says Once you remove the psychological barrier to committing crime, then everything is permissible and all things are possible. I would modify that to say that many more things are permissible and possible rather than everything.

i.e. Just because my parents smoked dope does not mean that I think that rape is okay.

toraneko, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

dave q always, always obeys the law. That's all.

DavidM, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks to Samantha I am now the not-so-proud owner of a bleeding tongue. Ouch!

Of course I shouldn't make such sweeping statements, it's just that in my line of work I encounter an alarming number of juvenile offenders, some as young as twelve, the vast majority of whom have parents with criminal records. They clearly lack Samantha's strength of character and fortitude.

Trevor, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dave Q is just a sickeningly obnoxious snob. *That's* all.

Robin Carmody, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I believe mr. q's first answer was a wind-up, Robin.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i R good citezen. I R never having dreamed of month long egging campaign and mass house cabbing when i was a young 'un.

fatnick, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

breaking the law, breaking the law!

rob halford, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If it was intended as a wind-up, he must get some credit. But there are less obnoxious and more effective ways to wind people up.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I cant say anything of crime, my family is boring that way, but my experience has taught me that ministry and preaching is our family curse. Thank goodness i have not succumed.

Menelaus Darcy, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have a cousin who is in prison for murder, and his parents, my auntie and uncle, were not criminals. But i understand, dave q, that the reason why you are an "ironic/moronic reactionary" is because you don't actually have any opinions about anything. right? ;)

di, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about white collar crime, Mr. Q?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And what about people who break stupid laws (like drug laws)? Not to mention that Martin Luther King, Vaclav Havel, Nelson Mandela, and Andrei Sakharov were all, technically, "criminals."

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think dave q is funny.

And if people get irritated its kind of mission accomplished really isn't it?

Although shagging in public isn't that respectable I must say.

Ronan, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think dave q is funny.

I do, too. He's my evil twin.

And if people get irritated its kind of mission accomplished really isn't it?

Bingo!

But my questions above are serious.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Re breaking drug laws - society asserts its authority by drawing arbitrary lines in the sand, and if you decide to step over them in pursuit of pleasure then quite rightly you will be judged an undesirable element in that society. As for those do-gooders you mention, they knew they had to pay a price for being difficult, and they served their time, which probably gave them greater respect on the outside.

dave q, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As for white-collar crime, the same people who bemoan 'property' being more valuable than 'human life' for some reason think it's worse to loot a pension fund than to maim somebody. Why? I would think it's a good signal to send out that you get more time for stabbing somebody than to run a pyramid scheme.

dave q, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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