2003 FBI Guide To Concealable Weapons (do not read if you already have issues)

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Metal detectors make airplanes safer, really they do

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 26 February 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The best part is that opening graphic, what is up with those outfits!

― Allyzay, Thursday, 26 February 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Dickhead me forgot that swiss army knife was in bag when flying up to Edinburgh last week, result = one lost precious SAK.

even though I asked him to post it to my house, no chance sir, I want it mangled.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 26 February 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Did someone from the FBI just went to a Dollar store for the first time ever? I'm glad someone is finally taking the the danger of people removing hang-nails on flights seriously!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus do they really confiscate Swiss Army Knives now? I had one in my hand luggage flying to Paris just 18 months ago.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

did someone went? i am getting stupider by the minute.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

No, it's a given that most of that junk is not really scary. It's the stuff that can slip right through a metal detector that's more bothersome, I suppose.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

they sure do, and they were confiscating them two years ago as a bloke in front of me got his taken off him, so you were lucky to get through/showing frightening holes in security

― chris (chris), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Oddness. Maybe I look so emo that they knew i wasn't a threat. I'm pretty sure I declared it, but that might just be memory playing tricks.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I had this really cool little travel-card thing, stainless steel with bottle opener, wire cutter, ruler, just DOZENS of neato functions in a card that fit in my wallet. Amazingly, it never occurred to me that this might be confiscated... DAMN! There it went at Christmas.

― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I took my pocket knife off my keys and left it at home last weekend. A guy in my band had to let them confiscate his chain and padlock that he was planning to lock up his horn with in New Orleans. He could have kept the padlock, but they wouldn't grant his request to think about it for a minute and by the time he realized this it was already in the Box of No Return.

At least they were cool about the jagged cymbal in my bag, once they took it out and saw what it was.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I have been looking for a ceramic bladed lock knife for camping purposes, know I've found one thanks to the FBI.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.actiongear.com/agcatalog/picsxl/bld01_2.jpg

From Bridage Quartermasters:

"ORIGINAL BLACKJACK KNIFE SYNTHETIC "LAPEL DAGGER"
A little known survival item made by Blackjack Knives in Effingham, IL before they hit the proverbial wall. The OSS in WWII issued lapel knives to agents operating behind the lines as part of their Escape & Evasion kit. BJ took this design and made it with modern materials and innovations not available in WWII. The non-metallic blade is glass-filled nylon that has a triangular cross section with a fuller on one side. A recessed grooved thumb area allows seating of the thumb for thrusting. This little gem could be real handy in an emergency. Certainly a collectors item as well as a potential survival tool in hostile zones.

― andy, Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The above knife is $9.99!

― andy, Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

ts: belt-buckle knife as terrorist accessory vs. belt-buckle knife as good ol' boy accessory

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I am like you, Ed, except I think I am going to go for the umbrella sword instead.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, the new spring issue of Vogue is totally a bludgeoning weapon.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess that it is kinda scary that all of these things are available but why would the fbi put that whole guidebook online? i mean, they are just asking for trouble. or whoever put it online.

― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to love all this shit, I think some of it is more legal in Arizona than in other places, they'd sell it in Spyz R Us or something along with wiretaps and fake ID kits.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

um, what's up with the knife disguised as a bullet cartridge?

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The argument you will hear from www.fas.org, cryptome.org and similar sites is that the information they provide/bring attention to is all legally public, not intended to be under the radar, and in fact needs to be publicly available and known by the citizenry so that we can better understand any threats and because knowing about the behavior/actions of our government is vital to a healthy democracy. People with evil intentions will find this information on their own anyway, 9/11 was planned and carried out with alarming success without anybody ever having to check on the Federation of American Scientists' website to get ideas.

I basically agree with them. I certainly don't agree with the idea of putting an entire nation on "orange alert" during the holidays without any further threat information, I know all about protecting sources but such behavior on the part of the government does nothing but encourage fearfulness.

xpost haha teeny yeah the bullet knife has got to be the dumbest thing I've seen in a while.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I had tweezers takien off me on a flight to Madrid...I asked if I could take my 1 litre glass bottle of mineral water on and was told "sure"

Even I could fashion a rudimentary weapon from a bottle...doesn't seem too hard...perhaps it's just things that are SHAPED like weapons that are banned..(oh, and tweezers)

― winterland, Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ALSO HAHAHA METAL PLAYING CARDS FOR THROWING HAHAHA PLS PROTECT US FROM 12 YO WANNABE NINJAS!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm digging the knife concealing crucifix... "I stab you... with jesus!"

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

All passengers will be issued with those plastic shuriken you thought were keen at age 10.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Another band member had his nose hair remover taken away, another item that you would need about NINE HOURS to kill the pilot with, as well as his or her patient cooperation.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Instead of asking people on the exit row if they can handle removing the hatch, they need to ask the whole plane if they are ready to tackle a terrorist with a knife, a gun, a bomb - whatever - and if 85% of the passengers don't anonymously say yes, the flight doesn't get off the ground.

― Stuart (Stuart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

So the trick is to be the 15% who doesn't say yes every time.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Why don't we just follow Switzerland's model and just force EVERYBODY to do some military service then?

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

If you were on a flight and a terrorist group tried to hijack it would you just sit there and watch?

― Stuart (Stuart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bendov.info/heb/var/existenz/pics/eXgun.jpg

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Unless I was bound and gagged, of course not.. which is why I think the polling 85% of the people idea seems kinda ridiculous. Why not force personal vehicles to tell you upon starting the ignition that you may be seriously injured or die in a car crash on the way to your destination, too? Is constant remindment of fear of every travel activity really necessary?

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

(reminders, excuse me)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

'If you were on a flight and a terrorist group tried to hijack it would you just sit there and watch?'

Not any more. Gone are the days of flying you to the desert and negotiating and SAS raids.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the polling 85% of the people idea seems kinda ridiculous

Sorry, it wasn't a policy draft or anything.

Is constant remindment of fear of every travel activity really necessary?

They've been reminding you that your seat is a floatation device for how many decades? How scared do you get? Acknowledging that the passengers play a role in their own survival, and perhaps even reminding them of this fact, is not fearmongering.

― Stuart (Stuart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, emergency procedures are one thing. Polling people, then stopping flights based on some arbitrary percentage is another.. but as you said, you statement wasn't a policy draft.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Joke, Thank You.

― Stuart (Stuart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i have to say whenever i got the exit seat responsibility i'd always be all 'wtf' and 'you fuckers are gonna die'.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

who all's gonna see soul plane?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

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