Mickey Mouse: Crappy Cartoon Character?

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I'm wary of upsetting the very vocal diehard Mousketeer contingent on ILX, but I have to say that I think Mickey Mouse is a horribly overrated cartoon character. He may be an icon, but as a character he has NO FREAKIN' PERSONALITY! I mean, Donald is tempramental, and Goofy is, um, goofy, but what is a personality trait that you can describe Mickey Mouse as having? Fucking PLUTO is a more interesting cartoon character.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 6 March 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 March 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Thirded.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 6 March 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Mickey Mouse is the everyman, you dumbnuts.

― NA (Nick A.), Saturday, 6 March 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I figure it's kind of like Charlie Brown or Frasier Crane or something - the glue that holds all the other, better, characters together.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 6 March 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

THIS THREAD = SO OTM IT HURTS

WB/Looney Tunes beats the crap outta Disney anyway

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Saturday, 6 March 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

He's got a squeaky voice... er... yeah, he is a bit rub.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Mickey is so nothing. It's pathetic. How has this icon survived? I don't know if I've ever seen a M.M. cartoon, anyway. Ugh, retch. Warner Bros. kicked everybody's ass.

― Skottie, Saturday, 6 March 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck Mickey.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 March 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

He's Disney's Frodo.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 6 March 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Saying that the Warner Brothers cartoons are better than the Disney cartoons is so obvious that I kind of lose respect for anyone who actually says it. We're all thinking it, so to speak it is redundant.

― NA (Nick A.), Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

that cartoon where mickey the tailor defeats the giant is awesome

― dave k, Saturday, 6 March 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Saying that the Warner Brothers cartoons are better than the Disney cartoons is so obvious that I kind of lose respect for anyone who actually says it.

You'd be surprised. Insult Mickey Mouse to the wrong person and its pistols at dawn.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, F0CK Y0UUUU!

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 7 March 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah mickey is vile. except for the 30's?era black and white&grey blue prints, those i like.

― kephm, Sunday, 7 March 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

rhis thread is great, I had never even considered such a thing, thanks ILX!

I'd agree w/NA, but then that might be too obvious.

kephm otm, except I like any really old-timey cartoons (occsaionally still run into them at odd times on the Cartoon Network), there is nothing especially good about the Mickey Mouse ones that I've noticed

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 7 March 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.deconna.com/school/8_6.jpg

― Michael "Pusher" Eisner, Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I never liked Micky Mouse. Found him boring. I always liked Goofy.

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

MICKY MOUSE MASTERBATES IN MY EAR WHEN IM SLEPING!! EVREY DAY!!! NOTHIGN WRONG WITH THAT!!!

― KARL SMSUMFY, Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Micky should just marry Mini already. What is his problem??

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe Mickey has a "secret". That might actually make him a somewhat more interesting character.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

He loves Daisy!!!

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

no, mickey loves donald. they're moving to san francisco to get married, orange county is too conservative for them.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Gay interspecies lust. EWW.

― Leee the Lee (Leee), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no!!!

They are not moving over here!! I will not have it!! Not at all! They'll be in the news for weeks!!

Maryland, here I come!!!

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

maryland also has gay mice and gay ducks. YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THEM!!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any state where it's ok to SHOOT THEM??

Or, LIGHT THEM ON FIRE?!

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I LIKE DUCK.

― Tony Soprano, Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

why do you have a problem with gay people?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

A search for "mice on fire" gets this picture.
http://www.grahamowen.com/images2/a-disney1.jpg

It's a sign!!

why do you have a problem with gay people?

I don't. I know quite a few. My close friends that are boys, except for a few, are probably gay. They just don't know it yet.

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 March 2004 06:01 (twenty-one years ago)

he's flaming! OH NO!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 06:03 (twenty-one years ago)

My close friends that are boys, except for a few, are probably gay. They just don't know it yet.

like dante?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 06:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh, I don't know. Do I attrack gay adolecents that don't know they're gay yet?

I mean, one of the boys who is probably gay had a crush on me in 5th grade. Oh, lord!! That's sad.

But back to Mickey...

http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/22/mickey3.gif

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 March 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Shoot Mickey out of a f**k*ng cannon.

― jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 7 March 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I need one of those Mickey Mouse ice cream bars NOW DAMMIT.

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 7 March 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the weird thing is that Disney basically gave up on doing anything with Mickey Mouse after "Fantasia" - how many post-'40s Mickey cartoons have YOU seen? they just keep him around because his ears make a cool logo.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 7 March 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

you guys are directing your vitriol in the wrong place, anyway. if there's anything the last century has taught us, it's that cartoon studios ALWAYS fuck up their characters after the original creators leave. here's a great quote from John Kricfalusi (you know, the "Ren and Stimpy" guy):

"On Saturday-morning cartoons they would make re-dos of classic cartoon characters. Like, Yogi Bear was a rascal, right? He went around filching picnic baskets. He didn't want to get caught. So kids identified with him: 'Oh, that's cool, he's getting away with stuff!' In the '70s, all of a sudden he's in charge of cleaning up the environment, which is the total opposite of his personality. They made Fred Flintstone nice, but when he first started, he was a complete asshole. So they basically destroyed all the characters."

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 7 March 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, didn't Kricfalusi just totally redo Ren & Stimpy for the Spike Network, making his characters obviously gay, instead of being "just friends" like they were before?

― NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 7 March 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there's the comic books...

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 7 March 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

And the computer games.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 7 March 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

That "Disney Waco" thing looks like they gave mickey a Williamsburg hipster haircut.

― Sengai, Sunday, 7 March 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Micky should just marry Mini already. What is his problem??
He's a fruit! He has a thang for Jiminy Cricket, and secretly lusts after Pinnochio!

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 7 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

And the computer games.

Indeed:

Epic Mickey, designed for Nintendo’s Wii console, is set in a “cartoon wasteland” where Disney’s forgotten and retired creations live. The chief inhabitant is Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, a cartoon character Walt Disney created in 1927 as a precursor to Mickey but ultimately abandoned in a dispute with Universal Studios. In the game, Oswald has become bitter and envious of Mickey’s popularity. The game also features a disemboweled, robotic Donald Duck and a “twisted, broken, dangerous” version of Disneyland’s “It’s a Small World.” Using paint and thinner thrown from a magic paintbrush, Mickey must stop the Phantom Blot overlord, gain the trust of Oswald and save the day.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/11/04/business/05mickey-1/popup.jpg

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 November 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

I read Maurice Sendak complaining about how Mickey Mouse became such a pussy when he used to be a bit of a jerk ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/oct/20/maurice-sendak-wild-things-hell ), but I don't remember seeing anything resembling tough Mickey. Anyone?

I also recently saw Mickey Mouse Clubhouse on the Disney Channel, featuring some seriously bland and characterless CGI. Not so good. That's not what Mickey's all about, kids. :'(

― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBgghnQF6E4

― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.boingboing.net/mickey-suicide.jpg

― la'bloom generation (latebloomer), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

That wacky Chris Ware.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 November 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.visualeditors.com/apple/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/krazykatsample.jpg

― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

do it! you're not a real cartoon character until you kill something!

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 6 November 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

They Might Be Giants must be super-rich from Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

― ô_o (Nicole), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

The "Epic Mickey" concept is intriguing, but those screenshots don't look too hot.

― Duane Barry, Friday, 6 November 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

more info here

Have We Discussed Epic Mickey Yet?

― coz (webinar), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

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