so what kind of animal is Goofy anyhow?

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he looks a bit like a dog... but Pluto is a dog... could it be that in the Disney world some animals are more anthropomorphic than others? but that would be insane.

this question needs to be settled.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

He is so clearly a dog, COME ON!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Gawrsh.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

hyuck hyuck

― :|, Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeh, blatantly a dog.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

goofy:dogs::don knotts:humans

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

My worst childhood memory= waking up to find the shiny platic nose of my Dale (he of Chip N' Dale) stuffed toy on my bedroom floor, and a noseless grinning chipmunk lying right next to me.

No amount of therapy can heal a mental scar like that.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Goofy wears clothes though. Dogs don't wear clothes. Pluto doesn't wear clothes.

Pluto barks. Goofy doesn't.

I don't think Goofy is a dog at all, though I have no idea what he might be. It's puzzling.

― C J (C J), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Floppy ears+black fur+beige snout = dog.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

b-but he has hands, not paws!

― C J (C J), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

he's a chickenbear after plastic surgery.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 6 March 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

goofy = civilized dog. pluto = uncivilized dog. walt disney was OBVIOUSLY either (a) a classist; or (b) trying to make some sort of subtle point about social stratification (i.e., goofy somehow is "better" b/c he gots clothes and hands; while pluto is "stupid" b/c he has neither).

or something. maybe the chickenbear thing is closer to the truth.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 6 March 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

But pluto is happy! He doesn't have to face the wacky terrors of Modern Life!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 6 March 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://psc.disney.go.com/guestservices/8709.html#8709

Q: What is Goofy? When did he debut?

A: Goofy is a dog! Good-natured but not that bright, this cartoon character made his first appearance, somewhat disguised, as a member of the audience in "Mickey's Revue" (1932).

What distinguished the character from those sitting around him was not so much his appearance but his raucous laugh. That laugh made such an impression on Walt Disney and his staff that the character soon began to be featured in other cartoons. Before long, Goofy was part of the gang that included Mickey, Minnie, Pluto, Clarabelle Cow, and Horace Horsecollar.

In the newspaper comic strips, this new character was first given the name Dippy Dawg. A 1938 book indicated the first change to Dippy's name, "The Story of Dippy the Goof," and by 1939 the final change was made to Goofy with the release of the cartoon "Goofy and Wilbur."

Goofy was created as a human character, as opposed to Pluto, who was a pet, so he walked upright and had a speaking voice.

― luna (luna.c), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Now kick my ass for even looking that up.

― luna (luna.c), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

OK... so in the Disney universe there are sentient dogs (sentient to the extent that Goofy is) and dog-dogs like Pluto.

Now, the question is, are these one species divided into an over and an under race, or are they separate species? Basically, do you reckon Goofy and a girl-Pluto could mate and produce fertile young?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Memorable Quotes from
Stand by Me (1986)

Gordie: Mickey is a mouse, Donald is a duck, Pluto is a dog. What's Goofy?....
Teddy: He's a dog, he's definitely a dog...
Chris: He can't be a dog he wears a hat and drives a car....
Vern: Yeah, that is weird. What the hell is Goofy?

― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

so was Stand By Me the prequel to Pulp Fiction?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

There were other characters that were the same breed of dog as Goofy, too, like Pistol Pete.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 7 March 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Goofy can't be a dog, he wears clothes.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 7 March 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

So do Donald and Mickey.

― luna (luna.c), Sunday, 7 March 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Donald can't be a duck, he wears clothes.

Mickey can't be a mouse, he wears clothes.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 7 March 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

whereas Gogo Dodo is a true dodo, from the umbrella on his head, and Frank Welker voice

― Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Sunday, 7 March 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i had this argument once and we decided that goofy was an upright, skinny, talking cow. i guess we werent too smart.

― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

plenty of dogs wear clothes! Have you never seen West Highland Terriers in little tartan coats? Admittedly the chances of this happening seem to be directly proportional to the age of the owner.

― MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Todd, you're not the only one:

The Disney Alma Mater by Jeffrey F. Haines

It started so small

With just a mouse

Throw in a dog

Or is Goofy a cow?

Then there's Minnie

Wearing a blouse

It's a disease

I call it Disney

It starts so small

With a hit song

Though you're appalled

You're humming along

It gets in your head

And starts to spread

It's a disease

I call it Disney

It's a disease

I call it Disney

***

― winterland, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Its a disease
We call ROCKISM.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Mickey Mouse is in court divorcing Minnie, and the judge says "But you can't divorce her simply because she's crazy!"

"I didn't say she was crazy. I said she was fucking Goofy!"

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

He's a fuckin cartoon eh

― Frank Swedehead, Monday, 15 August 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Now, the question is, are these one species divided into an over and an under race, or are they separate species? Basically, do you reckon Goofy and a girl-Pluto could mate and produce fertile young?

Good question. I think that even the small degree of sentience exhibited by Goofy probably required evolution significant enough to cause incompatibility between their DNA.

See also, Brian from Family Guy. Also sentient, but does not wear clothes. Does this indicate that a hybrid between Goofy and Pluto is in fact possible? Or do the social mores of sentient dogs simply permit the option of public nudity?

― already disheveled hair projection (wetmink), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Brian's just so wasted that he never wears clothes.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

yAH

― everyone has aibds, Monday, 15 August 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Luna I think it's cool that you looked up and FOUND what makes Pluto and Goofy completely different.

― Wiggy (Wiggy), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

I remember an episode of DuckTales set in Australia where one of the "dog people"(ubiquitious on the show along with "bird people") actually had a "dog dog" on a leash, the only instance I remember them slipping up like that; perverse. DV summed my confusion up upthread

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 15 August 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

Remember in Maus how Speigalman's therapist had pictures of her pets displayed which threw off the whole "every nation an animal" motif?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 15 August 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

I believe Goofy's French incarnation is known as 'Dingo'. This might be a clue.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

But Goofy's girlfriend is a cow, isn't she? How can that be? Is Goofy some kind of pervertalist?

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

Note how this confusion does not arise with cartoon cats; viz. there is no parallel sentient/mute comparison point between Tom and Sylvester because Tom is clearly sentient but for whatever traumatic reason chooses not to talk, at least until Hanna Barbera fucked things up with the crap '60s remakes.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

nine years pass...

been thinking about this a lot lately. i think the answer is that pluto is just kinky.

― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:20 (eleven years ago)

sort of like the gimp in pulp fiction?

"As soon as Donald gets here, the party will begin."

― da croupier, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:22 (eleven years ago)

exactly. mickey has no idea, of course.

― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:29 (eleven years ago)

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