Arsenal 2003-04: Are they the best team in English football history?

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OK, granted, they haven't even won anything yet and - full disclosure - I'm a (drunk) Arsenal supporter very pleased with today's (well, tonight's, in the UK) result v. Portsmouth, but could this Arsenal team be considered the greatest club in the history of English football? If they manage to win the treble and go undefeated in the league, would they be? If not them - who else: Man United in 67-68 or 98-99? Liverpool in the late 70s? Arsenal in the 1930s?

Admittedly, they barely scraped into the knock-out stages of the CL, have been lucky w/injuries (and even suspensions), and may not have the depth of some of the other contenders for this fictional crown. (But reserves such as Clichy and Bentley have done well when called upon -- in that sense, there is no indication that depth is a serious problem, just an issue they've not had the misfortune to have had to address.) At present, I think they're the best team in the world - ahead of clubs such as Real, Roma, or Milan - and that they're better than the Man United team of 99. Could they become the best the in the history of English football?

(nb: my sober mind may regret this rare foray into thread-starting!)

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

1) They're NOT better than the Man U team of 99. That team had all the skill and attacking flair of todays Arsenaa, but knew how to win things, which is an important skill that this Arsenal team hasn't got. (Maybe losing the premiership last season focused their minds, we'll have to see)

2) You havn't won the anything yet, and I think it would only be a drunk Arsenal supporter that would fancy them over Real.

(PS I support Oxford, which makes me about as neutral on these matters as its possible to get)

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

They're NOT better than the Man U team of 99. That team had all the skill and attacking flair of todays Arsenaa, but knew how to win things, which is an important skill that this Arsenal team hasn't got.

It's a skill that last year's Arsenal didn't have but since the match at Inter, Arsenal has shown this year. Admittedly (again), I am still months ahead of myself here, but if Arsenal do win those titles (removing the claim they don't know "how to win things"), I do think they'd be better than Man U 99. In defense (ha, the last place Arsenal would have seemed to have had tn advantage over other top clubs a year ago), I think Arsenal > Real certainly. The front six may not be as skilled as a team or individuals, but I think the back line - plus the way Edu, Vieia, etc., defend from midfield - gives Arsenal the advantage over Real.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

This is ONE reason why I'm actually glad I'm not in London at the moment. The celebrations for the double-winning Arsenal team cut me to the bone.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I promise to come back for good if Arsenal and Chelsea both miss out on Europe for one season.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

*Vieira*, obv.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 6 March 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

As a Portsmouth fan - i acknowledge that was a power-display of football by Arsenal today.

For this first 20-25 Minutes i thought Portsmouth matched them - with some fine midfield and defensive displays. Portsmouth players looked confident, were passing well and were up for it.

Then, Arsenal turned on the switch - with some supreme passing, positional play and .. clinical finishing.

That was a world class display - on that performance Arsenal would have won against the current World Champs Brazil, with Arsenal having their 2 Brazil players.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 6 March 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done Gooners put's our 1-0 defeat at pompey into even more perspective.
However no team has come close to Liverpool in the '70's and '80's.4 European cups in 8 years when only the 'proper' league champions were allowed to enter. Not trying to diminish this Arsenal side which should finish the campaign undefeated which will be incredible. The sad thing for us kopites is it doesn't even hurt anymore - the Mancs put paid to that.

― Mike Donnelly, Saturday, 6 March 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they have to win the League and Champions League for this argument to be worth having - to match the one-season achievement of Man U or peak Liverpool. It's not unimaginable that they could do that.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

However no team has come close to Liverpool in the '70's and '80's.4 European cups in 8 years when only the 'proper' league champions were allowed to enter.

Yes, like the league champions of Finland, Ireland, Malta, etc. - hence plenty of 9-0 agg first round victories. And you only had to play nine matches to win it (or seven in the case of Liverpool in 77-78), compared to 17 up to 02/03 in the Champions League. Not denying that Liverpool were probably the best club side in Europe for most of that period but I'm not sure it was a tougher competition to win.

(OK, counterarguments: you actually had to *win* those two-legged ties and not simply accumulate points; Arsenal and Chelsea would more than likely be out by now under the old system. No seeding that I can remember prior to the mid-80s - hence Lpool-Forest in 78-79 round one).

Liverpool, Everton, Leeds and Man Utd have all won league titles by a street - but this season if Man U and/or Chelsea maintain their greater-than-two-points-per-game form and Arsenal *still* finish 10 or more points clear, I think it will be the greatest post-war title-winning performance. Or just underline the weakness of the opposition, I dunno.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 6 March 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

This is ONE reason why I'm actually glad I'm not in London at the moment. The celebrations for the double-winning Arsenal team cut me to the bone.
-- @d@ml (nordiEF="webmail.php?msgid=4376757">nordicskill...), March 6th, 2004. (later)

I promise to come back for good if Arsenal and Chelsea both miss out on Europe for one season.
-- @d@ml (nordicskilla@hotmail.com), March 6th, 2004. (later)

you hurt me adam, as an arsenal supporter (who doesn't bother with going to matches so armchair), you hurt me!!!

I think the one argument (or excuse) that will be given for man u's shoddy performance will be the leo ferdinand ban, but we all thought man u had a deep pool of players didn't we?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 7 March 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

if you don't win, then you're not the best.

As a Liverpool fan I know what it's like to be the best and to win everything and I've come to know what it's like to be proud of a promising side that wins next to nothing. Arsenal need to start winning or their claims to greatness will be overtaken by statistics. Sorry, but there's no alternative.

― run it off (run it off), Sunday, 7 March 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Man U have had a good season - averaging over two points a game in the league, in the FA Cup semi-final, still in the Champions League. It's just that arsenal in the league have been extraordinarily good.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 7 March 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I am rapidly losing hope that it's all going to come tumbling down at Arsenal before the end of the season. I still think the Manyoo team of '99 was better, but then I'm hugely biased.

I hate them. I really, really fucking hate them. I had to turn over before the final whistle yesterday because I didn't want to sit and watch Lineker and Hanson sit fawning over them. It helps that they are the dirtiest nastiest group of Premiership players outside Newcastle. Martin Keown in particular being the missing link between apes and whatever came before apes and one day Ruud Van Nistelrooy will crack, force his hand into his chest and hold aloft Keown's blackened withered but still beating heart to the Highbury faithful and it will be a beautiful, beautiful day.

The big difference I can see between Man U and the Arse this season is that Arsenal look hungry for victory in a way that Manyoo just don't at the moment. But can I be the first to say that ARSENAL WILL NOT WIN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE THIS SEASON. Been to the quarter finals once and now everyone thinks they can win the thing. Fuckers.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That was no help at all, was it?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

no, but it was funny. and that in itself is a GOOD THING.

I rarely watch the premiership, but i like people talking about it.

That was no help either was it. it wasn't even funny.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

one day Ruud Van Nistelrooy will crack, force his hand into his chest and hold aloft Keown's blackened withered but still beating heart to the Highbury faithful and it will be a beautiful, beautiful day.

"Matt DC and the Temple o' Dreams"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 March 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

as a celtic fan in the late 90s I knew what it's like to be the best and never win a thing.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 7 March 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

tommy burns, ailsa, tommy burns.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

b-but we kept losing to, like, Kilmarnock and stuff. and not winning cup games and things = not the best.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

they were the best!!!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

ok.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Matt DC auditioning to be the apprentice Pinefox? There are worse roles.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

im sorry everyone, but this team is something else.

im a neutral my team is not in the top 3 divisions, i have no axe to grind, its just, well, have you seen them?

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

god i miss football.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

they move so fast.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

incredible team. their performances in the premiership have been the best in it's history, and they may finish unbeaten. the league is theirs, but i don't think they'll win in europe.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

so in answer to the question: yes, i think so. although it will only be confirmed by a european triumph.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i think you might be right. they remind me of deportivo. i think they are the best team by some distance, but i can quite see them not acutally doing it. i hope they do though

xpost, what kilian said

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Q: do I stand a chance of seeing them before the season's through?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I found myself thinking the other day: The current Arsenal team seem so imperious as they attack partly because the Highbury pitch is so narrow. Three players advancing towards the opposition goal seem like a tsunami of possibility.

Nevertheless: The idea that they are rivalling the the Liverpool team of 79-90 is daft.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

hmmm...true if you're judging in terms of sustained quality over several seasons (in which case arsenal have some work to do) - BUT they may have turned in the best league season ever.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

they are exceptional,i don't support them or anything but jesus they play some stunning football
they remind me of what i imagine the dutch team in the seventies was like,all that total football carry on...the way they move,the speed of thought,everything about them is the best play ive ever seen...
now if i was cynical i could point out that the defenses they are up against are a lot worse than in other leagues,but even so the flair that they play with is astonishing...
henry is the best footballer ive ever seen play
and if wenger was able to find him languishing on the wing at juve,not even getting his game,and turn him in to the player he is today,then i cannot wait to see what reyes,who he was willing to pay 20 million for,will do for them...

― robin (robin), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Jerry - yes, although that obv. doesn't explain their spectacular away form, this season or the last. And i 've found myself thinking about the Highbury pitch whenever i've watched a game on tv for a couple of years now...i always assumed it would be a disadvantage, with that kind of fast expansive wide play, which only made me respect them all the more, incidentally. Wouldn't the opposing central defenders be less likely to get drawn out by the attackers?

― pete s, Monday, 8 March 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Wenger seems to have this knack for turning good players into world class; Henry, Ljungberg, Pires, Viera, and looking back further, George Weah.

I pity the rest of the world if he ever gets the France job.

― Nick H (Nick H), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

bring on brazil!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The Liverpool team of 1988 (specifically May) wasn't so hot.

The current Arsenal team are a joy to watch along with the United of the turn of the (most recent) century and the stunning Valencia team who repeatedly made me wet in 2000-2002. I can't remember any other teams who've made me feel like this.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This will be the stunning Valencia team that had to go to penalties to put Celtic out of the UEFA Cup a couple of years back, yes? Note, UEFA Cup. Not Champions League.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

See the Liverpool 88 comment for the acknowledgement that even the best teams have off days ;)

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i know, we should never have let it get as far as penalties...

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It is odd that wee Ailsa is not more often joyful about her team who are running away with all.

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the style they play as much as anything else, I've not seen anything like it.

On an aesthetic level you have to give them one up on the 99 United team because they score Arsenal goals, it's a style fairly unique to them. How many times have they scored from headers this year I wonder? Very few I'd imagine. I guess it suits the pitch.

I am biased cos I hate Man U but I do think Arsenal are something else.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not joyful as I am shitting myself at the prospect of Ronaldinho vs John Kennedy/a desperately unfit Joos Valgaeren on Thursday.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Arsenal are indeed very good, but I think people forget the capricious nature of madame le football and her gods; had horseface not hit the bar early on in the season, their unbeaten record would have been over and at the hands of the people who they lost out last season. Everyon ein Arsenal seems to suggest they drew strength from how they lost it last year and resolved 'never again'.

If however they'd have lost to the same team again, would they have thought 'here we go again'? Would that have affected their performance this season? I don't know. I do know that enough teams have given them a run for their money and been let down by inability to take a 2-0 lead; have the magnificent Arse overturned a 2 goal deficit yet? I don't decry their powers of resilience and recovery, but sometimes I think that they have benefitted from the weakness of opponents in front of goal as opposed to their own strengths.

x-post - When Valgaren missed the penalty against Valencia, everything about him said 'I am about to miss this penalty' and also, the referee should have booked Canizares for his gamesmanship in that shoot-out - he was a disgrace.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

what was worse was that he missed it TWICE. Fuckwit. He was dubbed Joos-less Valgaeren for ages after that.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

It pains me to say this, but it's the Liverpool performance of 1978-79 that is the benchmark that Arsenal must attain this season. Yes, they lost four matches, but won 30 of the other 38, accumulating 68pts in old money, scoring 85 and conceding 16. Teams were thumped five-, six- and (sorry, Pinefox) seven-nil. For all their magnificent play, Arsenal have squeaked home a few times this season. They were lucky to take four points off the Toffees...sassenfrassen...

If Everton hadn't made such a rotten start/finish to 1984-85 (won the title with five games to spare and by a 13pt margin, lost three of the last four matches fielding a reserve team), they'd be up there too. See also: Arsenal 90-91, Lpool 87-88, Leeds 68-69.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

When people make these historical comparisons, do they mean a sort of 'in real terms', inflation-adjusting thing? Am I wrong to think that a 70s team would be totally smashed now?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

68pts? Are you sure? I make that 64.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

N - I would suspect the 90s-00s team would beat them on stamina alone... surely Arsenal 2004 would be playing far better after 80 minutes than Liverpool 79?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 150 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

??? they conceded the least goals than everyone else in the league?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

oh xxxxxpost

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The difference is that Arsenal and United's bad patches coincided with injury crises they were unprepared for. Chelsea are prepared for pretty much anything with the exception of losing two out of Terry, Gallas and Carvalho at any one time.

Ken, quite how you manage to xpost so regularly when all your messages are a maximum of one sentence long continues to amaze me.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

post first, read thread later

― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Monday, 29 November 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i had to research to make sure that they conceded less goals than every other team in the league. it's not the amount of words in a post it's what it says, or something.

but obviously in this case your knowledge of chelsea's defensive record was way better. well done.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 29 November 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm sorry that i've just broken the maximum of one sentence long rule, too.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 29 November 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i suddenly felt all intellectual.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 29 November 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i should take stevem's advice next time and not bother reading the whole thread before replying to the latest message to make sure i don't xpost. sorry guys.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 29 November 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway.

will arsenal bounce back next week? who will they concentrate their efforts on? vs birmingham to rebuild their league form? vs rosenborg for euro glory? they need a win to guarentee their progression to next round, esp with PSV already through.

apologies as always for the overwhelming amount of sentences in this post.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 29 November 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Not any more.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 15 January 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

read the title of the thread matt.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 15 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It is currently taking every ounce of restraint in my body not to abuse moderator priveleges on this one.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 15 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Do it, beyotch.

I take pride in my contributions to this thread. Brittle as feck; united'll finish second this year to Chelsea.

― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 16 January 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

"If I'm not (playing for Real) I'm going to have to carry on playing with some bad people,"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4250173.stm

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 11 February 2005 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

His next line is even more hilarious: "I'm sure there are none in the Real dressing room."

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

so the reason he turned so shit is because Lehmann and Ljungberg liked to flick wet towels at his arse?

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

those weren't towels.. etc.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...

Speculation grows that the News of the World will reveal on Sunday that Sol Campbell has HIV.

Apparently he might even quit football altogether and go live in his house with Steffan Freund forever.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 3 February 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I was wondering what it was all about. That's awful if it's true and I hope the NoW don't do that to him.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 February 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)

They don't need to now, do they?

Every single Premiership manager was asked to take part in a survey about homophobia in football and every single one declined. Football is still in the 19th century with regard to this issue.

― Venga (Venga), Friday, 3 February 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Anyone know when Ashley Cole will be back from injury?

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Sunday, 12 February 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm a bit worried we might end up going to the World Cup without Cole and Bridge.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 12 February 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it would be a shame if a player who had been capped several times was unable to make the World Cup.

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I'd be more worried about a lack of goalscoring midfielders.

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)

er, how many do you want?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Any more than two would tire me out.

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

we're certainly going to need some players who can penetrate from the back

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

also it never hurts to have a couple of benders in the team.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Brown wing-backs?

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to hell

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)

charlton's got the bents

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

they don't have any real fans

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Given Arsenal's semi-collapse since they sold Vieira, do you think they would have been better off keeping hold of that goalscoring midfielder rebel Jermaine Pennant?

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 16 February 2006 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Phew. Looks like Ashley's OK:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/jamiefake/oher1pq1resized.jpg

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 16 February 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Haha wow! What paper is that from?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 16 February 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Is his head photoshopped on?

― Too Gay for America (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 February 2006 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Teh Sun inviting us to read between the lines.

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 16 February 2006 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit that's fantastic. I always assumed Cole and Tweedy were together as part of a "Look! She's not a massive racist like you thought!" deal.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 16 February 2006 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas has bizarrely admitted that it would be "spectacular" if Gunners skipper joined Barcelona.
The young Spaniard told The Mirror: "To see him there would be incredible -this is what everybody wants. Right now things are going well for Henry here, but we shall see what happens in the future.
"It is clear that everyone would like to see Henry play for Barcelona because, well, it would be a spectacular thing to see him there alongside the players they have.”
Expect a 'I never said them things' press release to be emanating from Highbury before the weekend is up.
Chelski, though, may be interested to hear the 18-year-old's observation on the joys of watching the champions in action.
"If you watch Chelsea they play such boring football you could doze off. I watch Barca on TV quite regularly and it's easy to enjoy — Chelsea may be effective but they play boring football," he apparently told a Barcelona radio station.

Perhaps he should consider joining Thierry in Spain next season...

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 February 2006 09:31 (twenty years ago)

I always assumed Cole and Tweedy were together as part of a "Look! She's not a massive racist like you thought!" deal.

Same here. But while I'm here, LET'S ALL LAUGH AT ARSENAL

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:21 (twenty years ago)

I suppose Barcelona defending appallingly and losing at home is not as boring as Chelsea's play at home.

Cheryl is rocking those specs.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:28 (twenty years ago)

She's my fave rave racist pin up

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Who else is in yout top 5?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:31 (twenty years ago)

She hasn't got much competition, to be fair to the lass... Eva Braun maybe?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Diana Mosely and Unity Mitford:

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-Diana_Mosley+Unity-Sept1937.png

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:43 (twenty years ago)

ashley cole is dating allyzay?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:52 (twenty years ago)

They're getting married!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:54 (twenty years ago)

bump

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Oh god PLEASE let this be true

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

eight years pass...

Arsenal 2015: Are they the best team in Europe?

... or, put it another way, is Theo on crack?

― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:31 (ten years ago)

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