before sunset

Also - Julie Delpy, Julie, Julie, Delpy

(slightly annoying) Before Sunrise trivia: did anyone notice that it takes place on Bloomsday?

what about wings of desire/faraway so close?

dude, "jour de fete"

I'm not big on real-time, but I love limited timeframes - one night or one day.

oh yeah, that one was pretty good. although it had a coda that wasn't in the real time scheme.

Still, it was better than Nick of Time.

And really limited-timeframe ones are fantastic, by and large. cf. RL on Dazed and Confused. I totally love that flick.

i said this about before sunrise upthread:

there's an interesting interplay between the *content* of their talk (what they're talking about) and the *form* (the overall arc of the encounter, what they ultimately want from each other).

i mean, that's very present in all three movies but here in this new one i thought the actual talk felt so overdetermined and freighted with meaning. in the first movie i particular like how their chatter has to bounce off these other people (and places) they encounter. here that aspect felt reduced--more like the two of them were in an empty chamber, hammering out their feelings for one another.

the multifarious voyage to italy references were kind of cheap, too.

Don't be such a bitch.

please do

i'm being too mean, it wasn't bad. i just wasn't excited about it. maybe i'm just a cynical old fart.

or a romantic old fart, whatever.

It's my least favorite of the three. Every time I think I've persuaded myself to give it another chance I remember the dinner scene in Greece.

Doing it w/out the fantasy was one of its many admirable qualities.

Always concious of its Rohmer-esque-ness.

fwiw, I do think that you're onto something w.r.t strictly digging the romanticism of the first two movies -- there's something about the how the change in tone and execution also plays into the change in tone of their relationship

But that only results, for me, in a more fully shaded portrait of what happens to every. single. relationship. ever.

or every one involving Ethan Hawke

I have refused to date Ethan Hawke.

yellow armpit stains on T-shirts

But that only results, for me, in a more fully shaded portrait of what happens to every. single. relationship. ever.

― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Saturday, September 7, 2013 10:54 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's assuming i want to see something "real," as opposed to a wish-fulfillment fantasy!

Finally watched Before Midnight..., finally. Friends had told me it was utterly depressing, the worst thing ever, wish they hadn't seen it.
I didn't find it depressing. It was not romantic, I did not want to be Julie Delpy this time but loved it!

I left the Sunrise and Sunset wondering when the characters were going to have serious issues and how they would handle the relationship down the road. The fight scene in this film was what really made the previous two films for me. I could see it again.

that's assuming i want to see something "real," as opposed to a wish-fulfillment fantasy!

Well, yeah, the same in reverse applies to me every time I consider seeing the latest Dardennes movie.

sunrise > midnight > sunset.

Well, the virtue of making her as dreadful as him this time out is that these two deserve each other. All is well.

(Voyage in Italy and Le Rayon Vert references were particularly odious.)

Guy who reviewed it in the WSJ otm:

These are not people who have spent the last nine years together. They're people catching up after nine years. No couple with twin girls and a custody issue would have to tell each other so much. They wouldn't have to tell each other anything. In fact, if they harbored as much resentment as Celine and Jesse, they might not talk at all.

marina abramovic's before sunset

In fact, if they harbored as much resentment as Celine and Jesse, they might not talk at all

wouldn't make for a very interesting movie though would it

I rewatched it a couple weeks ago. Wasn't the first scene -- the airport scene with Jesse and his kid -- awkwardly shot? Def the worst of the three.

amateurist otm: "i thought the actual talk felt so overdetermined and freighted with meaning."

marina abramovic's before sunset

IRL LOL.

that would be an ideal marriage of two cultural con jobs.

"Shouldn't you go to Grandma's funeral so you can fuck your cousins -- that's what people do where you're from, right?" jeez, the two Texans let her do a Tennessee joke instead of a proper "steers and anthills" line.

do not understand the "they wouldn't tell each other so much"/"wouldn't talk at all" criticism at all. it's a movie, it's done for dramatic effect. this is not soviet socialist realist film ffs.

alas

the point is the dialogue is stilted bullshit

well I enjoyed it

Finally saw this -- could have lived without the first 2/3 of the movie, so pretentiously annoying I almost turned it off

I did like the hotel meltdown though. That part at least felt a bit more human to me.

My thing with this movie is that, the first movie you watch 2 people fall in love, the 2nd you get to watch them re-fall in love and then be in love...third movie they give you no reason to even care about watching. like they're hanging their hopes on us enduring a boring car ride and a boring dinner party just becuase it's THEM, it just seemed like it was coming from a place of overinflated ego and it took a while to get past that

What's more presumptuous than expecting there to be a happily-ever-after ending?

The only way there'd be a sequel is 'maybe to address mortality'

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/nov/04/julie-delpy-ethan-hawke-how-we-made-before-sunrise-trilogy-sunset-midnight

My thing with this movie is that, the first movie you watch 2 people fall in love, the 2nd you get to watch them re-fall in love and then be in love...third movie they give you no reason to even care about watching. like they're hanging their hopes on us enduring a boring car ride and a boring dinner party just becuase it's THEM, it just seemed like it was coming from a place of overinflated ego and it took a while to get past that

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:40 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

their chemistry is so undeniable though — the way they know how to push each others buttons, the looks they give each other, the little annoyances that have built up over years of being together, the way their discontent and love for each other just teeters on the edge all the way until the ugly, extremely real unraveling at the end…ah, love! ah, life!

This was a fascinating thread to read through, the different opinions about these films through the years.

I only saw Before Sunrise and didn't like it too much. I think I had read a review that said something like "this shows you can make a film about a man and a woman without sex". So when they started kissing about 15 minutes in, I felt misdirected. Also, neither character had very much intriguing to say.

God I miss Morbz’s movie opinions.

Bloody hell!

Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy will reunite one last time for Richard Linklater’s BEFORE I FORGET. In theatres December 13th pic.twitter.com/3KrqTVKaUX

— guy (@guymrdth) July 17, 2022

Which one will have Alzheimer's?

Can't believe everything you read on the internet

maybe they'll do a fourth one eventually but I think they'll miss their one-movie-every-nine-years window

At least we have b4-4

hello i am rewatching the
trilogy

Hawke & Delpy still ridic hot in Before Sunrise can confirm

*bawls*

Delpy & that Nina Simone scene in Sunset still destroys me

i havent re-done Midnight yet, dragging my feet

Delpy & that Nina Simone scene in Sunset still destroys me

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, June 28, 2025 8:45 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

incredible closing scene of course. but for me it’s all about the car ride to her apartment

yesss also great

I've still never watched Before Midnight because I thought Before Sunset ended kind of perfectly — full of possibilities — and I don't need to see any further into those characters' futures.

(but feel free to persuade me otherwise)

I saw all three back-to-back in 2023 (at MoMI at this event) and I came away agreeing that Before Sunset was a perfect end. I don't think Midnight is a bad movie and quite liked it when it originally came out, but it came off as pretty disappointing after seeing them all in quick succession.

i will say that midnight hits a little better the older i get

Before Midnight almost ruined the first two for me, so bad