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― anthony, Sunday, 14 March 2004 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

What is it?

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Should be a huge icon, unfortunately isn't. Not even high enough in the pantheon of former Warhol superstars, much less celebrities in general. Incredibly tragic story, she was like the transgendered Peter Pan.

The people who made I Shot Andy Warhol were totally lame for making a Solanas movie when they could have done something great doing something else centered around Candy (still played by Dorff; I think he did an amazing job.)

― anode (anode), Sunday, 14 March 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.audartgallery.com/cp20.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 14 March 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i think that she is really interesting in this golem/prometha way, in that what should have been warhols greatest "creation" sought independce in a way that detroyed both her and him--the whole factory did this, but i think that how desperatley candy flew away from artifice and tried to be authentic made her the most poigant

― anthony, Sunday, 14 March 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure I can go with the "they destroyed each other" thesis.

Candy's impact on Andy is negligible, from what I understand, in the greater scheme of his life/career. He always had his hopes pinned on Edie. I understand that he was very upset when she died, and it was certainly one of the nails in the coffin of "the old way" (along with the shooting, Edie and Billy Name leaving, etc.,) Still, he enjoyed some of his greatest success afterwards.

I can go with Andy destroying Edie only in the sense that being a Warhol superstar gave her false hope. Holl.ywood rejecting her, especially with Myra Breckinridge is what really hurt her, IMHO.

― anode (anode), Sunday, 14 March 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

fact???? - eddy in RHPS was based on Candy, Fran as Warhol having stolen her brain for next creation. CF flesh for frankenstein... "I've come to hate my body"

― q, Monday, 15 March 2004 08:39 (twenty-two years ago)

GO CANDY CRAZY!

― the beebfox, Monday, 15 March 2004 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

arn't THE "Candy Darlings" a power-punk band, with the ex-guitarist from (the greatest chick-metal band ever) Kittie? sorry if that's a completely different subject...

― eRIN, Monday, 15 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Fourth best Smiths cover star.

http://www009.upp.so-net.ne.jp/death/smiths4.jpg

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 15 March 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Who were the top three in your opinion, Jerry?

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 15 March 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I take it that Pat Phoenix is at his #1 spot, but actually I don't think I can guess the order of the rest.

I think I hope that Yootha Joyce is in there.

Did you know that YJ was in the first version of (I think it was) Brendan Behan's *The Hostage*?

― the tweefox, Monday, 15 March 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

what are the best smiths cover stars

question--what do you think would have changed if candy was myra beckrinridge ?

― anthony, Monday, 15 March 2004 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Which cover was that for, actually? I don't remember it from the Peepholism book.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 March 2004 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha that Smiths sleeve for Sheila Take A Bow looks like my mom wearing hooker makeup. Believe me, she knows I think there is a resemblence.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 March 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Pat Phoenix
2. Elvis
3. Jean Marais

The sleeve for The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (Truman Capote by Cecil Beaton, how gay's that) is Morrissey's favourite.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 March 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Suzy almost agrees with my top 3, but the Bigmouth cover would be in there somewhere too. Often good pictures were let down by bad reproduction/tinting/typography.

4b) http://www.indiepop.it/articoli/singles/0803/foxgloves.jpg

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 15 March 2004 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

andy looked at the beaton/capote photo for years in the early days, obsessing over it, in a erotic replacement kind of way.

― anthony, Monday, 15 March 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

best smiths cover star = SHELAGH DELANEY, hello.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 15 March 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I once thought of starting a thread whereby we imagined the Smiths happened ten years later... who would be their cover stars?

My answers: Karen Grant from Brookside. River Phoenix. Taylor Dane. Pete Burns.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 15 March 2004 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Jerry: try a still from If..., Veruschka, Leigh Bowery, Ian Charleson from Sebastiane, Lena Zavaroni, Patti Smith.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I just watched Women in Revolt (the film that begat that Smiths cover) a week or so ago. I love Candy's odd kiss-off: "There's the door. What's your hurry?" She says it twice in the movie and it's hilarious how it comes off as the world's least stinging send-off line.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Patti Smith is bad.

― the bluefox, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

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