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in true love? does it exist? have you felt it?

i don't believe in it. true love is fairy tale crap. but some people do believe in it, say they have experienced it, and what right do i have to doubt what they are feeling?

why do people seem to be so obsessed with finding it? why can't people just be happy by themselves?

di, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I believe in it and have felt it, yes. But I personally wasn't obsessed with finding it, quite the opposite to be honest. I was very happy by myself, but things happen and c'est la vie. I think a lot of people are obsessed with it because they're told they should be, which is silly but I think true - I mean, in this day and age, I still know girls whose mothers get on their ass for not being married and "providing grandkids". It's just lame, no matter how far the world comes the options are still limited.

Ally, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yes! i R believing in true love! LOL no not really, that is just wet and weedy girl stuff!

I R "romeo" Fatnick, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I believe in love...it's hard to articulate what I think it means...I think it's something that goes beyond physical and emotional need...beyond the stage of thinking "am I in love, what is love?"...that must be love. Not worrying about finding love.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be alone all my life. Friends will get married etc...The human is a social animal.

As for obsession about finding love, well that's unhealthy...but probably a natural reaction to rejection or unrealistic expectations about people.

james, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I ahve felt love in many ways, I have always let it find me

Ed, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

there is no such thing as true love. there is true benefit. if its one who you can dig, and you get along great , and yoru mommy taught you to share..then work and you can have it. but love is just the mating of the apes.

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah its real and it exists.

why do people seem to be so obsessed with finding it? why can't people just be happy by themselves?

i dunno they're just stupid i guess. people should be more patient. As Daniel Johnston sung "True love will find you in the end."

hamish, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't believe in love, except that unconditional kind that you may experience for your children or pets. Love is just some kind of vanity. What one is really into is the perfect picture of oneself being reflected back ("you're so sexy/smart/funny" etc), and some fresh meat.

Usually this form of mental illness lasts between 3 - 12 months, or until the sex gets boring. It has a name as well but I can't remember what it is, and it can be addictive. Thats why there are relationship jumpers (here).

mr smythe, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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mr smythe, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes. Yes. And yes. Things went all deep and scary in his eyes and weird shit was happening in the air above the bed. That was a long time ago. It hasn't conquered *all*, but it does a good job of hanging in there.

Kim, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't believe in true love, just expediency. 'Love' seems to make a lot of people act really stupid and become boring insular & self obsessed. That does not mean I am happy with myself though- I can see some of my flaws too clearly and am so patently inadequate. Perhaps this professed disbelief in love is a way of rationalising my numerous failures? Yet another form of defense mechanism like being ironic and sarcastic, and keeping a wry distance from people. Now you've made me indulge in public self analysis which is one of the most tedious things other people can read, particularly if one is as garden variety ordinary as I am. It's loathsome to suppose ones feelings of inadequacy make one "special" or any more worthy of sympathy and attention.

When people are in relationships for a long time they seems to lose some confidence of being alone- thats happened to quite a few people I know. Having a partner or whatever is like having appreciation on tap, knowing that someone thinks you are worthwhile & cares about you more than most other people. So I suppose they would be rather adrift if that relationship broke up. Without the knowledge of that other thinking they are special it might be more risky to brave social interaction and possible rejection. Some people of course have no problem this way and they are fairly impressive as its a rarity to find people that comfortable in their own skins at least in our social circle.

People look for love because it is better to do something than nothing.

Menelaus Darcy, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

your second last paragraph sums up why i'm never going to get into a relationship ever again, menelaus. when i fall, i fall too hard. so even if i did believe in true love, (which i don't cos i have an amazing capacity to love lots of people really deeply), there's not really any point in me believing in it.

di, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ewww, that made me sound like a hippy. what will windy say to that? and there i was, fresh from the punk quiz with 70% credibility. i disappoint myself.

di, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it's good for a story, it's a good way to explain events. real life = not so simple. people are more weird than they give themselves credit for in their stories. the whole story always takes much longer and is not nearly as interesting as the sweet short cut.

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I do not believe in true love.

I believe in love (= caring, e.g. for cats, friends, family, cars, etc.) and obsession and dependency and lust and trust and companionship.

Oh, and I believe in the need to suck somebody's life-force from them.

toraneko, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i belive in fondness and comfort and companionship

anthonyeaston, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The problem is not a belief in true love, but the belief that it's inevitable or deserved or natural. A love patiently worked at seems to me the truest, but then it's all I know.

Tom, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just keep on keeping on to crucify a nice cliche for you all.

True love? I don't know really, it's a lovely idea, like religion is, or communism.

I'm not even going to start the self analysis, or the past history.........these threads always make me feel moany.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i don't know about true, but love yes esxists, though it's not all it is cracked up to be - needs to lodge a civil suit for gross image mismanagemnt.

Geoff, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT!

er..........kinda

Ronan, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well since you like the short version. Yes I do, yes it does, and yes I have. and I have been in the light that you mentioned. Gale

Gale Deslongchamps, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You know that I have asked so many about this subject about seeing the light, and in my case standing in the light. Everyone I asked, men and women had never experienced it. It happened to me once only. Gale

Gale Deslongchamps, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Perhaps Gale was abducted by aliens?

Kim, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yes, because aliens always understand love, I learned that from TV.

rainy, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But they always end up teaching the humans about love before they leave the planet and/or die.

Josh, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yes, but they only teach one or two humans and then those humans don't teach anyone else. half-assed bastards. They could at least brainwash us for our own good.

rainy, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about pesky Europeans played by Bronson Pinchot? Do they count as aliens?

Brian MacDonald, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nope! I was not abducted by Aliens,sorry . I'm sure I met my soulmate though. Gale

Gale Deslongchamps, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Are you still with that person? I am just asking out of curiosity.

rainy, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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