what do you guys think about abortion?

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like, are you against it or for it?

― bonnie, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I work at a clinic that performs them, if that tells you anything. I'm not for or against it, it's a personal choice.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i can think of one i would have been in favor of

― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm for against it not....thankyou ronnie dobbs

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I concur. I am forgainst it.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)

well i am a christian and i believe that its wrong to kill a baby when it could be something so great, look at christine caine, her mother was going to have an abortion but decided not to and gave her up for adoption, look at the fantastic preacher she is today, even though it mightent even have formed a baby yet, even though it still might be a little embreo in a mothers stomach, god had a plan for that embreo, way before it was in its mothers stomach...

― bonnie, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

It's amazing that she had it at all, considering it was in her stomach.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)

what?? u tripper:S

― bonnie, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but look at HitlThis thread has been locked by an Administrator.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:13 (twenty-two years ago)

(Heh, Chris.)

I don't think I'd personally have an abortion (though who's to say what might happen in a traumatic situation?), but I support the right to choose, and if someone feels that abortion is the best possible choice for them, I will support their decision and defend their right to make it. I'm a huge proponent for adoption as well, so I do wish more people chose the adoption route, but it seems to me that the vast majority of the people whom I wished would've chosen adoption end up "keeping their babies" (as they'd like to have it phrased -- in reality they end up passing over the care of "their" babies over to the babies' grandmothers, if the babies actually end up getting cared for) in the end. But I digress.

Oh yes, and I consider myself a pretty devout Christian, too. Though one could argue when a fetus actually becomes a baby. I personally believe it happens sometime in the third trimester, when the fetus's lungs become fully developed and this being can breathe independently of the mother. Of course, others can and do disagree with my viewpoints, to which I say, "Oh what the heck."

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always believed life begins when the mother's choice is made.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always believed life begins when the mother's choice is made.

Beautiful philosophy! Yes, that's a much better way of looking at that.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm in favour of it. Occasionally I have been known to claim that prospective mothers (preferably accompanied by the prospective fathers, but it's the woman's decision) should have to put reasons before a doctor to have the baby, rather than to have an abortion, but I don't really mean that - I just think they should be freely available on demand up to a time limit determined by the baby's ability to survive outside the womb (or a scientific equivalent). I think that ability to exist as an independent life is my favourite point to decide that it has an independent existence.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin, that makes sense. (the second part.)

My opinion on it is - who cares what my opinion is, and who cares what your opinion is? - It's a personal perspective that we'll probably never all agree upon. So that being the case, people need to be left to their own consciences to decide what's right. Hopefully, they'll put serious thought into it, and that's the most that can be asked - regardless of the decision.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm very pro-choice almost miltantly so. i once got hit by a priest while trying to protect a clinic from protesters.

abortion is nothing new or modern. women have always, ultimately, exercised power over whether or not they bring life into the world.

I believe, like Dee, that life begins when a fetus is capable of surviving on its own.

FWIW i have had an abortion and am an atheist. make of that what you will.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

man, we're just hitting all the fun hot-button issues today, ain't we?

― Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The way the question is put is a little misleading: no one's really for abortion, only the right to have one if a mother so chooses. Otherwise, what D sez.

― O.Leee.B. (Leee), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it says something about America that abortion is such an openly discussed issue while sex education & free-contraceptives-to-teens projects are generally considered taboo.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I am completely against abortion. We should wait to kill people until they have committed a crime or until they have moved to a country that we don't like.

― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

its wrong to kill a baby when it could be something so great,
It could also be a mass-murderer. Or politician.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

It could be the new Messiah! You ever think about that shit, huh, smart e. pants?! YOU WANT THAT BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!?>!?!?

― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I prefer it in a cup, thanks.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

With a biscuit!

― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Twee-est Cannibal Corpse song ever.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that ability to exist as an independent life is my favourite point to decide that it has an independent existence.

So life begins at thirty?

― Prude (Prude), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I like that plan. If your kid is annoying everyone in the movie theater, just abort him!

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...

(From today's Omaha World Hearld's Letter to the Editor)

Opposing abortion

If you don't oppose abortion on a moral level, here's a financial reason to do so: Since the 1973 Roe vs. Wade decision, approximately 40 million children have been aborted.

Hmm, that's 40 million individuals who could have been contributing to our Social Security fund.

If folks can't be convinced by their consciences, maybe they can be swayed by their pocketbooks.

Craig Boro, Omaha

― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

oh hahahaha wtf? That's insanity.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

And that would be forty million more people leeching off of the Social Security system at the same time that I will. I've got no problem coming from a "light" generation.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

That letter is the most rofflicious thing I've read this week.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder how much people would write off taxes for 40 million kids.....

― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, shit. We could have had twice as many Wal*Marts by now!

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

40 million more voters, who would have voted FOR reproductive rights, which may have sent the earth into a perpetual loop, causing eventual implosion.

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if I can claim an EIC for any of those 40 million unborn children?

― known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if *I* can?

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

that's 40 million baby's living with jesus in heaven, because all dead baby's go to heaven. it's a fact. whereas were they born, there's a good chance they would've fucked up on earth and failed to choose the lord as their personal saviour. fully 20 million of them or more would be on fire for eternity right now had they lived. if you look at the odds, abortion is a 100% foolproof way to enter the pearly gates! pro!

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I truly believe that if those 40 million were alive the Strokes would have gone platinum.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

but Clinton would never have got in

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't care. Rock would be back.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, that's 40 million individuals who could have been contributing to our Social Security fund.

Perhaps, but they'd have to be educated first, and aren't conservatives always the first to whine about the costs of public schools and how much they pay in taxes as a result?

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

This message board would be down a lot more.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

where the fuck did they get their statistic that 40 million abortions have occurred since 1973?

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

What language do they speak in Heaven? Do you suppose the aborted fetuses can interact with the other people there, have conversations with Napoleon and Jesus? Wouldn't it be interesting to be an aborted fetus, you could learn all about history from the people who were THERE instead of just reading books in school!

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

There could have been another 40 million troops in Iraq! The insurgency wouldn't have had a chance!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

You know what? I don't have an opinion because I'm a guy and it aint my place to tell a woman what to do with HER body.

This is a topic that only females should really have any input into.

― C-Man (C-Man), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Also do you get to pick your own name, or does St. Peter give you one? Dude what if you were aborted before they could determine your sex, and St. Peter gave you the wrong name? Or do you suppose he just gives out unisex names to the first trimester fetuses?

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

What language do they speak in Heaven? Do you suppose the aborted fetuses can interact with the other people there, have conversations with Napoleon and Jesus?

it's my personal belief that when you get to heaven you stop communicating with languages and instead you communicate through pictures and sounds dissociated from the human world. i kind of see heaven as a place that's a little like the noize board.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost well names are obviously also godly and unhumanlike.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the noizeboard statswilly isn't working otherwise this would have been the link

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

they hate you there, dude.

― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

IN HEAVEN, THEY HATE ME

BY KEN C

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

what, in heaven? already?

― Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

What if you tried to abort the Messiah? Can you do that?

― Who did release magic family out from the base of $499 (deangulberry), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

haha dang chaki!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Great. An eon of worshippers wearing coat-hangers around their necks.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

My fiancee already made that joke dean, like months ago, pay some fucking attention.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder if heaven got a ghetto (littered with aborted foetuses, SORRY)

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it's not on this thread, guy. As far as other threads go, unless it's a picture of tits.jpg, I'm not looking at it.

I'm sure Alex in NYC will have some sympathy for you, so maybe you two can take a time out and have a pow wow.

― Who did release magic family out from the base of $499 (deangulberry), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

man the Noize dudes hate Ken so much they even deleted my thread about his car. or maybe they just hate me, in which case i wish they'd all been aborted.

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/opencomic.phtml?rowid=55845

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get it.

FWIW, I support mandatory abortions for every male and female over 13, every three months for the next 25 years.

― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

total classic!

― sugarpants (sugarpants), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

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