― David Raposa, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― james, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― anthony, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Tom of Finland as art = one-dimensional, repetitive, dud.
Therein lies the problem. "Reclaiming" porn as art tends to involve taking a piece of work which is good at what it is and turning it into something which is bad at what it now is. And for what? Mostly so art fans can pat themselves on the back.
― Tom, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― carsmilesteve, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
There's a guy in LA named Wash Westmoreland who makes highbrow porn comedies. But I've never seen then. Fun fact: his brother Micko is Jack Fairy.
― Arthur, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― anthonyeaston, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― RickyT, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mr Noodles, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Helen Mirren, though...back when she was fit (was The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover her last ever gorgeous moment?)....
― ogden, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dave q, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tom, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Still waiting for the great High Brow Porn movie to be made. Was 9 Songs a (failed) attempt at it?
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)
Well, if the sex was removed, would it be a highbrow film still? No.
― Mark G, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)
There are plenty of highbrow directors who put their sex fantasies right up front and centre. So to speak.
They invariably get slated for their trouble - there's nothing more toe-curling than a fantasy which doesn't work for you - but why shouldn't this be a legitimate area for creativity?
― Soukesian, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)
Sweet Movie struck me as high brow porn. But it also had violence and stuff. I guess it was just a Euro-Art film. It seriously turned me on but would then completely turn me off. I had to cover my eyes during a couple of parts. Sweet Movie is not porn.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)
you don't like rolling around in shit?
― sexyDancer, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)
-- Mark G, Friday, October 19, 2007 12:24 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
I don't know how I feel about this statement-- "highbrow porn" doesn't mean a highbrow movie with sex scenes in it. If it's made to BE a porn, of course removing the pornographic scenes will make it into something entirely different.
― Will M., Friday, 19 October 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)
Don't Look Back could so easily have owned this if Sutherland and Christie hadn't been so wussy.
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)
Oh crap - Don't Look Now - obviously.
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)
Although any porn film with Dylan in would probably be considered high brow by some.
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)
There are those x-rated Frenchie coming of age movies from the 70s and 80s ... they're still porn, but I guess there's emotion since the camera lens is always covered in Vaseline.
― burt_stanton, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/5/80265-medium.jpg
― DavidM, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)
I love In the Realm of the Senses, which is high brow and hardcore. Does it still count even though the protagonist's privates are cut off in the climax?
Xp Shortbus counts, definitely.
― vermonter, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)
9 songs was an attempt at high-brow porn fo'sure. People said to me: "you won't find it erotic" and I thought: "the hell I won't", and then I watched it and realised they were right.
― aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)
Just watched Shortbus. Great, great movie!
― Soukesian, Saturday, 20 October 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)
People said to me: "you won't find it erotic" and I thought: "the hell I won't", and then I watched it and realised they were right.
haha
― G00blar, Saturday, 20 October 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)
'9 songs' isn't highbrow tho, it's just low-budget and shot by a name director. i generally think winterbottom is terrible and devoid of ideas but that one was particularly bad.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:39 (eighteen years ago)
'Lost Girls' by Alan Moore & Melinda Gebbie fits in this, I would think.
― aldo, Sunday, 21 October 2007 00:11 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.alley-cat.de
"Porn for women". Something tells me this is not going to work. I don't know why, exactly, though.
― The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)
Well, first off, are you a woman?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)
sfw?
― taylory dayne (goole), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)
Sexy for women?
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)
solely female wankers
― show me your buccina (ken c), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)
anything with a .de domain is not going to porn that's sexy for humans imo
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)
native speakers excepted obv but if your arousal can withstand the uttering of "fick meine arsch" without erupting into laughter then you're made of stronger stuff than I
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHIw-ZfbDSQ
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
Clearly this is what was missing from Tom Hulce's performance.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
ah Mozart. like your countrymen, you found the anus an object of irresistible interest & appeal. long may you lick imo
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
I should have put that on the Bach/Beethoven/Mozart poll
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)
blech I'm never using a period again,,,full stops however
― dyao, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)
waheeeeey
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
dyaocula
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
callin bullshit on the less-sordid-is-missing-the-point thing - if I didn't have, y'know, morals, I would be an irl voyeur most likely, but since I am bound by the customs & mores of society & human decency, I prefer my porn to be as close as possible to "you're just looking at two people doing what they'd be doing whether there was a camera pointed at them or no" - failing that, I'll take "webcam of an English kid humping a pillow while Of Montreal blasts over the hi-fi" obv
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
ok lol
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)
"you're just looking at two people doing what they'd be doing whether there was a camera pointed at them or no"
ideally two AWESOME people but yeah OTM
thread has devolved into a sausage fest.
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
do I get to choose which two people
― dyao, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
I don't think what LJ is describing is "you're just looking at two people doing what they'd be doing whether there was a camera pointed at them or no"; it is just as contrived as "lady does a headstand while dude props himself on a table and thrusts via one-armed pushups" or whatever other weird contortions porn actors have to do in order to allow camera space.
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
Do you mind, sausage party
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)
man it's taking some effort not to post animated gifs of creative intelligence
― dyao, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)
Well, they know there's a camera there so they act up, but they don't act as people they're not
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
(just gettin' today's 300-post thread nice and revved up)
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
if there's only one thread a year in which i can safely describe the discussion as a sausage fest, then i'm planting my flag here and that's that.
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
only cause you know there's a camera pointed at you xp
― dyao, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
one might say I am this thread's fluffer
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
lol, I don't think you quite grasp what "act up" means in US idiomatic language, as I don't think you actually mean you want to watch porn where the actors suddenly throw inexplicable tantrums and get super whiny and petulant
or maybe you do, actually
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
A Sausage Festschrift
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)
xp well it's certainly more realistic that way ime
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)
ok fine they go ham, they make a big song and dance of it
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
wait I don't want ham anywhere near my porn
― dyao, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)
wait
PORN OPERA
Dan do you wanna be my marketing guy
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)
wait you're both called Dan
you could call it poppera
― dyao, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)
the nurmenburgle cockring
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
HI DERE do you wanna be my marketing guy? dyao, concierge?
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
"lady does a headstand while dude props himself on a table and thrusts via one-armed pushups"
kinda showing yr hand here hi dere
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
Dan, Dan, Darragh
sounds a bit like
Dun dun DUUUUUUUUUUUH
very ominous. perfect for my poppera board of directors
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)
i don't want to see awesome people have sex.
ugh. awesome people don't have sex!
― show me your buccina (ken c), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
or they do, but like, no!
awesome people have sex and sing Verdi. don't say you're not interested Ken C
― Dan, Dan, DARRAGH (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
I would like to refer you back to Germany, where they've been doing this for years (at least one production of "The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny" has cast actual prostitutes and had them have sex with chorus members in the second and third acts).
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)
if i ever want to see awesome people have sex it will be when they're having sex with me
― show me your buccina (ken c), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)
what is this 'Germany'
― Dan, Dan, DARRAGH (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)
has anybody ever made porn involving lesbians, a penis and a commercial vehicle?
― show me your buccina (ken c), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)
yes, it was called Dick Van Dyke!
wait why does my name sound like 'duuuuh'? lodging a protest here
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
at least one production of "The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny" has cast actual prostitutes and had them have sex with chorus members in the second and third acts
"OK, so Hans, ve vere thinking of giffing you the lead rrrrrrrrrrole in this production of "Mahagonny", this is ein grosse opportunity for you""Ja ja. But, I think I am heppy in der chorus."
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
this was my review of 'robin hood'
― long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)
huge lol history mayne
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)
Right now I'm picturing JOhn hidingout in the cheerleader's locker room with a camera.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)
the next ILX comp should be an homage to Porky's
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084522/soundtrack
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
I actually have a neat little hack that allows me to view all ilxors while they are posting
it's kind of disgusting to be really real with you about it but my paysite, nakedilxors.com, pays the rent at least
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
who's most-viewed? please say it is tuomas
― Dan, Dan, DARRAGH (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
Damn it, I knew I should have brushed my hair this morning.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)
damn it, i knew i should have brushed my teeth this morning
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)
you don't understand, "oh jesus" is the name of my dog
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
ew
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)
And I have absolutely no idea how that empty box of cookies and bag of potato chips found its way onto my bed, I swear.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)