Parenting and freedom issues

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A recent thread about young teens going through misogynistic motions in the classroom and another one about overprotective parents made me remember about the opinion that parenting unavoidably = castrating childrens of liberties. For a theoretical chronic libertarian that would be something as aberrant as if it was the removal of testicles or ovaries, therefore keeping them from having childrens.

Could a viable solution be, as Simone De Beauvoir proposed, to raise kids as a socialized production, where the collectivity would increase the freedom of parents by giving them more support and being more present for the education of childrens?

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

sometimes Sebastien, I think you think too much

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I would say that "castrating" is an overly acute term, but I think it's funny that you used it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

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"Quick honey, while they're sleeping, get the pruning shears!"

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

(precision: conceptual character "theoretical chronic libertarian" would be concerned to reclaim libertarian to = libertine, and reclaim libertine to, a fuck it.)

― SÃ©bastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't meant reclaiming libertine as a "it" sex object, was saying ah, I got to get out of here for now I'm supposed to be under pressure. "Reclaim libertine as atheism, skepticism, materialism, claiming freedom of thought , of speech and of habits, notably of sexual nature."

― SÃ©bastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I would say that "castrating" is an overly acute term, but I think it's funny that you used it.

Is it because it makes a rather fatalistic conception of the family or it was an ironic comment on the way I prioritize values when interacting with people?

It's just a Freudian joke - and a good one whether you used the term consciously or not.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a serious issue. And one which I don't see any way out of. As long as children are being raised/parented/educated at all, their freedom to choose and invent is being curtailed. Really no one is ever freein this way. But what would it be for ones choices to truly be ones own? Would that be freedom, or simply giving over to a new master (ie genetic predispositions)?

Oh and yeah, you think too much. So do I. So do a lot of people. It's a Bad Thing(TM).

― mouse, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

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