Is Rik Mayall In Velvet Goldmine?

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Having lately watched Velvet Goldmine for a second time, I was reminded of the delectable character, Freddi -- you may recall him as the somewhat outré man who proclaimed “Shaaaaaaaanon” in an effeminate manner. I’d always assumed that this character was played by the ribald, Rik Mayall, but I’ve noticed the film’s credits declare a little known actor named David Hoyle.

Does this David Hoyle exist, or is it a pseudonym used by Rik Mayall when his face has been suitably prosthetisised? I didn’t know where else to come for answers...

Charles Hatcher (musenheddo), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I HATED that movie. Hated it. So I don't know.

andy, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The second half is a bit ho-hum.

Charles Hatcher (musenheddo), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

...I don't even remember this character?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

No. Rik Mayall has much worse teeth, and is more 'physical humor' than this guy. I don't really think they look that much alike. Mayall has way crazier eyes.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The Shudder to Think songs are great.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Second that. All of Craig Wedren's soundtrack jobs are almost flawless.

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Ballad of Maxwell Demon" is just ridiculously good, "Hot One" almost as. But "People Rocking People" has to be the secret highlight of it all, even if you can only hear a slightly distorted snippet near the end.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What. Ever.

I didn't think they looked identical or anything, just that Rik Mayall had been made up.

PS - The Ballad of Maxwell Demon is well good. As are most of the songs... Eno, Roxy Music, Cockney Rebel, et cetera.

Charles Hatcher (musenheddo), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually like "Hot One" better Ned, but we can still be friends. I remember drunkenly working out an elaborate karaoke interpretive dance to it, so I'm biased.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

It is one of the greatest soundtracks to crank up and sing along to while getting ready to go out EVER.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

When I went to see this film in the theater, I experienced the greatest high I've experienced while sticking around for the closing credits -- I got to listen to the original "Make Me Smile (Come Up and See Me)" after only being able to listen to the Duran cover (like, duh) previously. I thought the original sounded little like the cover, but still had the same sort of peppy spirit. I wonder what that song must've sounded like when Steve Harley joined the band onstage in '83 to perform the song live. That must've been just the coolest thing.

*sighs* I just love that movie. And I am thrilled to death the real-life Arthur is on this forum. The movie's Arthur was my favorite character, as I suspect he was for most of the people who like this film.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

arthur's on this forum?

mandee, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

there was a real-life arthur?

Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you know what I mean. Not really the "real-life Arthur". More like a partial inspiration. Which is still really, really thrilling. Ah, nevah mind.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

oh right. arthur is arthur.

mandee, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

what is it about this movie that begs people to trash it so vehemently? I enjoyed the movie. it's not the best movie ever, but still... ??? *shrug*

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

David Hoyle exists alright.

He was also known as The Divine David who appeared on his own late night C4 series in the late 90s, and became something of a cult figure for a brief period.

Last I heard,he's not working anymore as an actor but is now a painter (artist - not decorator).

More about the Divine David here at:

http://members.tripod.com/human_trash

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Pah. Well that's brought my respect for Rik Mayall right back down.

Thanks anyway.

Charles Hatcher (musenheddo), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Mind you, I thought David Hoyle's performance in Velvet Goldmine easily outshone the main leads. I hate that film.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that film is really appalling. I'm writing a feature on movies about music, and while pretty much every one ever made is awful, this really is the very worst. What a waste of film.

39 Steps + 40 Winks (39 Steps + 40 Winks), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not that bad.

Apart from, I worked out the surprise ending about five seconds into the film (o.k. minutes then), before there was even mention of missing person etc (not giving plot away)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)


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