Cute or Gross (C or G, I guess): I'm Talking About Fainting

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Hi, I'm Jewelly. Perhaps you remember me from such threads as "Sit Like a Normal Person" or "The Assiest Thread in the History of Ass."

Tonight I'd like to talk to you about the subject of fainting, and what that subject means to you.

For those who don't know, it's a subject that has had more than a little effect on my life. I faint easily, ladies and gentlemen, and it has caused horror as well as amusement in the lives of those around me. For myself, it has caused embarrassment ... plus amusement when enough time has passed and I can turn it into a quaint anecdote.

But I am now dating a guy who seems to find my fainting sexual, to an extreme degree.

I recognize that fainting was somehow sexual back in the Victorian age; it was a sign of female vulnerability and, I don't know, weakness, fragility, dependency, etc.

I would sell my soul never to faint again. I hate it. I've just recently found out this guy gets OFF on it and it freaks me out.

He doesn't seem to be a Neanderthal ... Jesus, I don't even know how to talk about this, it's so weird. Should I dump this guy, I guess is what I'm asking.

jewelly (jewelly), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Jewelly! I was just thinking y'day I wondered where you'd been.

This is kinda... uhh... odd. He doesnt do/make you do things that'd CAUSE fainting spells does he? (eg breath holding or something). Cos that'd be very bloody dud.

Fainting is pretty horrible innit.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

jewelly, what caused you to faint?

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

(sorry, i'm ignoring the boyfriend issue right now, because your fainting problem sounds very familiar to mr)

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(oops, familiar to me, not mr)

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

lol donut when I meet you I'm totally gonna start eating worms and setting off m-80's in front of you

LC, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

You mean, it's now abnormal to find fainting a turn-on? Oh dear.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Good reasons to faint:

*your corset is too tight
*one of the gentlemen just said 'dammy!'
*your man arrives at your door and you thought he was dead!
*he tells you he shall go mad with grief if you do not marry him at once!
*he's doing something daring and dangerous, like wrestling a tiger.
*it's a hot day on Box Hill when your party takes a stroll there.
*you have just been told that you are the legitimate heir of the Ponsonby-Wallace fortune: and that you are a duchess!
*You are in the queue to congratulate the vicar on another fine sermon, and you conveniently 'faint' into the arms of the man whom youhave decided will ask you some day for your hand in marriage. Later that day, he visits you in your bed, bearing flowers and a card.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Did he know you had a fainting problem when you guys met/started dating? It does sound like a bizarre thing...

I'd be pretty weirded out if someone was really turned on by something that was really unpleasant to me.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

haha why do all the Vancouver people scare me?

anyway, I was trying to see if maybe Jewelly had a panic disorder... I'm currently trying to treat the fact that I irritionally am more prone to fainting than I should.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I faint due to massive drops in blood pressure usually. It never started happening til I started smoking the g4nja. It seems to lower my already low blood pressure enough that, if I stand up too fast, BLAM over I go.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Jewelly, eat a lot of bananas, V8, and Gatorade for a while.. maybe you have a potassium deficiency?

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

None of the above -- I've been poked and prodded by some of the best doctors in the world. Good heart, good iron, good blood pressure. It started with a blood/injury phobia (which I still have) but the tendency to faint has attached itself to other stimuli.

As for the guy ... well, I haven't talked to him today. Not so sure I want to break up with him; he's not perverted about it and would never MAKE me faint on purpose (as a girl did in junior high by cutting her hand and showing it to me, so that she and her friends could have a giggle). So, I dunno.

jewelly (jewelly), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I faint a lot, too. It's not fun.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I just black out for a bit. But still...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I just black out for a bit. But still...

I don't get all the different terms people have for it. Black out, pass out, fall out, collapse, faint. I guess some people think of dizzy spells as fainting and passing out as losing consciousness, but to me "passing out" is what you do when you're drunk. I faint and I'm generally completely unconscious anywhere from 30 seconds to five minutes. Unless I bash my head on something and knock myself out, which I've done twice.

jewelly (jewelly), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I can tell when I'm having a low blood pressure day when I stand up quickly and immediately have to sit back down due to spinning head and complete loss of strength in legs.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

a close friend of mine was at work at she bumped her funny bone super duper hard and it made her pass out, slide out of her chair onto the ground and wet herself. doc said it was a veso vega reaction.

JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

None of the above -- I've been poked and prodded by some of the best doctors in the world. Good heart, good iron, good blood pressure. It started with a blood/injury phobia (which I still have) but the tendency to faint has attached itself to other stimuli.

The blood/injury phobia is pretty much the source of my fainting too. I've actually tried to desensitize myself to it (with the help of some medication) and I had some degree of success, but then I was put under a lot of stress via work the past three months, and I've regressed a bit.

The part where the fainting thing attaches itself to other stimuli is worrisome, because it accelerates and soon enough, you become agoraphobic, which was exactly what I had to suffer, and I had to see a psychiatrist ASAP about it, as it was about to affect my ability to get to work.

So I think I completely understand your issue, Jewelly. I've been born with it myself pretty much.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

JaXoN's post has me helpless with laughter. Am I a bad person?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 April 2004 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

If you are, I am too.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 1 April 2004 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

'Not so sure I want to break up with him; he's not perverted about it '

I think you should drop him for precisely this reason.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 1 April 2004 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Inappropriate, gross question of the day: if you are a woman who faints at the sight of blood, how do you deal with your menstrual cycle?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 April 2004 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's different when it's your own. Failing that, um... helper monkey and a blindfold?

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 1 April 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

The story about Ally's mom takes on a new (monkey)shine.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 April 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

JaXoN's post made me a little horny (the wetting self part). I think I find women attractive when they are at their personal social worst because it demolishes my own faux-pas paranoia and brings us together. *puke, puke, sob* this is so *hic! puke* embarrassing *sob sob* I can't believe I'm doing this in front of - *puke*

"Don't worry about it, it happens to the best of us, heh heh, you're still a little hottie - eh hold on you got a little in your nostril"

LC, Thursday, 1 April 2004 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I am helpless with laughter.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 1 April 2004 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I see, rereading the thread, that I am not the only one.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 1 April 2004 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

your boyfriend gets off on you fainting, too?

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 1 April 2004 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)

hi jewelly!

okay what specifically do you mean by "gets off on it" and "finds it sexual, to an extreme degree"?
I think if you're really bothered by his fetish, you shouldn't be with him

oops (Oops), Thursday, 1 April 2004 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)

To jewelly, in re: your bf.

He finds your physical helplessness and inability to defend yourself to be a green light for sex because the rest of the time (when you are conscious) he probably fears you (and all women) to some small degree, which has a... shall we say... dampening effect on one's sexual drive. Your fainting releases that fear and his libido surges to the fore.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 1 April 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

OK,I was going to give up on this thread and just write, "The end, lock it, forget I ever asked ..." But, since I don't know any of you people in real life, I'll tell the whole story. It's disgusting.

I've been seeing this guy for, like, 2 months. A few nights ago he comes to my apartment to go out and I'm still kind of getting ready. I occasionally have ... (god, why am i telling strangers this) ... colon and bowel movement problems. I was having such problems, in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet, while my sort-of boyfriend was waiting for me in the living room. Constipation, extreme stomach pain, etc. I fainted. And apparently my fainting ... shall we say ... relieved my constipation. And I gather it was quite a relief. The guy heard me cry out and make whatever noises, and then THUD, and then silence, and he got worried. Finally barged into the bathroom and found me unconscious in a pool of shit.

CLEANED ME UP while I was unconscious. WRAPPED ME IN A BLANKET. CARRIED ME TO BED. And was picking up the phone to dial 911 when I came to, and assured him I was fine, no ambulance necessary.

I assumed I'd never hear from him again. When he called the next day to make sure I was OK, I assumed he was just being a nice guy -- a gentleman -- but who the fuck would want to continue seeing a girl after THAT?? When he called me that night, I asked him that very question, and he told me he'd never met a girl who fainted as much or as easily as I do (I'd told him non-shit related fainting stories) and he thought it was sexy.

So: he was very sweet to me during the hands-down most humiliating experience of my (humiliation-packed) life .... BUT .... he apparently has a fetish about me fainting.

I honestly don't know what to do about this. I mean, of all the guys to shit all over yourself while fainting in front of, I guess I lucked out that it was him ... but .... uhhhnnnn!

jewelly (jewelly), Friday, 2 April 2004 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Did he say more than that he thought it was sexy? There's a big difference between that and it being a specific attraction, much less fetish.

I mean, if it creeps you out, then ultimately it doesn't matter; even if you decide not to be bothered by it, you're going to associate him with that creeped-out feeling. But if he said something fairly mild and nonspecific about it, you may be taking your feelings about fainting itself (and/or feelings about how you're afraid it affects peoples' views of you), which you don't like, and transferring them to him.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 April 2004 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks, Tep ... I guess it's not a fetish. Exactly. I still find it weird but he's really not creepy, he's actually a great guy.

I read an article a couple of years ago about a woman who fainted every time someone said certain words (sex-related as I recall) and a guy in her apartment building found out about this and knocked on her door and said a word that made her faint, then raped her.

I associated that with my boyfriend's thinking my fainting was sexy. (He did say that, though he wasn't talking about the covered-in-shit episode). (At least I hope he wasn't).

But I think you're right, I'm reading stuff into it that isn't there. I hope.

jewelly (jewelly), Sunday, 4 April 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

If nothing else, I doubt he'd take it strangely, or badly, if you said, "It's great that you're not put off by my fainting, but fainting turns me off enough that I'm not comfortable with thinking of it as sexy," or words to that effect. (If it came up again. If it never comes up again, no biggie, right?) If that doesn't bother him, there's no problem; if he's, like, asking you to faint for him ... that's a whole different thing.

(I think you'd have reason to worry if you didn't have a particularly strong personality and this came up; but you do, and you didn't meet him by fainting, so it isn't that he's attracted to weakness.)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 4 April 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I find this thread perplexing. It's just a bit too baroque, somehow.

But anyway, all that aside, "The Assiest Thread in the History of Ass." was one of the best ever on ILX. So Jewelly should be applauded for her contributions there as well as her ability to faint on demand.

Skottie, Sunday, 4 April 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
Jewelly,
when you faint or unconscious are you like stretched out flat on your back...are your arms out to the side or elbows bent , arms in the upward position?? I find it erotic ONLY if it is not a life threatening situation......I would rather have a woman to PRETEND...that way you know she is safe.....it is a sort of foreplay......
The woman pretends to faint...the man pretends to revive her by kissing her and massaging her....
what do you think of this?????
I would like to find a woman who would role play this....

Danny Fritz, Friday, 21 April 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Jewelly,
when you faint or unconscious are you like stretched out flat on your back...are your arms out to the side or elbows bent , arms in the upward position?? I find it erotic ONLY if it is not a life threatening situation......I would rather have a woman to PRETEND...that way you know she is safe.....it is a sort of foreplay......
The woman pretends to faint...the man pretends to revive her by kissing her and massaging her....
what do you think of this?????
I would like to find a woman who would role play..feel free to discuss this with me...

Danny Fritz, Friday, 21 April 2006 16:31 (twenty years ago)

wow.

JimD (JimD), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:55 (twenty years ago)

wrongo

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 21 April 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...
last night i lost consciousness for no reason whatsoever.

i was standing in the bathroom. apparently, i left and cracked my head on the desk, broke it in half, landed on the chair and shattered the legs. stayed on the floor for about a minute or so. i have no memory of what happened; but next thing i knew i was myself outside gasping and clutching the dog.

for the remainder of the night i felt really weak and shaky. i had consumed +/- 8oz. of pinot noir, 8 sections of spicy tuna roll, and a quantity of iced tea earlier during the evening. no cigarettes, no booze.

this has happened before, but infrequently. i have no health insurance – do i need to break the bank to get to the doctor? :(

remy bean, Sunday, 4 March 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

(no booze besides the pinot, that is)

remy bean, Sunday, 4 March 2007 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Did you stand up suddenly after sitting on the can?

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 4 March 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

a veso vega reaction.

I've suffered from vaso-vagal faints. About 3 years ago in Santa Cruz I took a sip of a very cold Margarita, felt odd, went to the bathroom and was found on my back on the floor in front of a urinal. I now know to get my head lower than my heart every time I feel even vaguely odd like that.

Michael White, Sunday, 4 March 2007 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

no... I was getting ready to brush my teeth. I had sat up and walked to the bathroom about a minute before; I remember noticing (and being really irritated) by the flicker of the lone fluorescent light right before keeling over.

remy bean, Sunday, 4 March 2007 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Could be epilepsy? I'd go to the doc, but I understand that without health insurance, that's easier said that done. :(

Jenny, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Or with a $3000 deductible, like me. :-(

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have a friend who passes out at the first sip of most (but not all) champagnes. She's actually done TESTS at various gatherings, warning her husband or friends that she was about to try a new bottle and to catch her if necessary. Takes the cake for dedication.

Laurel, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I have never fainted ever in my entire life. Am I abnormal?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 5 March 2007 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, I passed out from heat exhaustion once but have otherwise never fainted. Us peasant-types are sturdy like that.

Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

my sister passed out when her science teacher disected a deer's eye. I have never fainted.

emilys., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

I've suffered from vaso-vagal faints.

I can't be the only one who misread this.

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

remy, that sucks that you don't have insurance - but if you've got a history of fainting apparently for no reason, that's kind of worrying. might be worth the money to get some tests done. also kind of scary if you live alone.

i have fainted, but v rarely and not in years. it's gross. but i'm still pretty sturdy!
am unable to go into very hot saunas/whirlpools/baths for longer than 2 minutes

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

haha, oh i misread it and imagined some things
xpost

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

I hate to be alarmist Jer but Jenny is otm, if you noticed a flickering light it could have triggered a seizure. Not nesc epilepsy but not a good thing. I think a GP visit is a wise idea...

Trayce, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

eighteen years pass...

Now that there are more than one, I can make a list of movies I have fainted at:

1. Racetrack. the Frederick Wiseman movie! There’s a scene in it that you’re completely unprepared for and totally shocking but is an otherwise ordinary day for the track vet.

2. The Substance. Started watching it late Saturday night. During the first transformation scene I got lightheaded, stood up and walked a bit, but went straight down like a building implosion. Ms T described it as “you fainted and threw up when Demi did!”

Not on the list: Cronenberg and all the usual suspects

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 7 April 2025 10:11 (one year ago)

I fainted multiple times as a teen when a doctor told me a medication’s side effects included yeast infections… this was before I had ever had one, and at the time it must’ve sounded super scary

sarahell, Monday, 7 April 2025 12:14 (one year ago)

18 years later, and I still haven't fainted, or even passed out (something some of the folx in this thread seem to have thought of as the same thing.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 7 April 2025 16:26 (one year ago)

As a different thing, I meant.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 7 April 2025 16:26 (one year ago)

first time I fainted was in 5th grade during biology class. there was this illustration of the nerves inside the copy and something about it really freaked me out. I remember getting light headed and then bam...on the floor. all I really remember is the school nurse telling me to "drink more orange juice".

second one was triggered by the scene in Pulp Fiction where Uma Thurman gets a shot to the heart. it's worse when you actually know it's coming. I was feeling really queasy so I got up to get the blood flowing a bit...TERRIBLE idea, by the way. 30 seconds later I was really lightheaded and next thing I knew I was on the floor. could have hit my head on a number of hard surfaces but I got lucky and fell straight down.

most recent was a year ago, not triggered by any thoughts but rather a hangover. I went to pee and got suddenly was seeing stars. figured I'd go back to bed but, as I should've known, it was too late. I fell face down, breaking my nose, which got blood everywhere, including a bit on the ceiling somehow. when I regained consciousness I wasn't in much pain but I do recall feeling like I couldn't move, half of my brain was in a panic, it was kind of the worst I've ever felt actually. I also got a black eye and I'm pretty sure I was concussed. but it could've been worse, had I gotten one step further I would've smacked my face on a cabinet.

anyway, if I have one piece of life advice, it's this...if you feel unusually lightheaded, don't try to get the blood flowing, just GET DOWN for christ's sake. there's no "uh oh I'm gonna faint" moment, you're just woozy and then you're on the floor

frogbs, Monday, 7 April 2025 16:54 (one year ago)

I used to faint all the time in my younger days. I fainted at a Queen gig, at a Marillion gig, and at a 10,000 Maniacs gig which I believe was my body punishing me for going to see them in the first place. This is on top of many many more in everyday situations, although I'd never end up unconscious. I'd just get the horrifying and unstoppable wooziness, followed by seeing stars, nausea and sometimes my sight switching to monochrome which was always Not Fun.

My mum took me to the doctor about it when I was maybe 10. I left the consultation room with her and promptly keeled over. Somehow it all went away in time, I think it was probably anxiety-induced hyperventilating that was causing the issue. The best way of dealing with it was sitting against a wall with the knees up, head down between the legs, slow breaths and yawning (which I suppose pumps oxygen around the body faster).

heckling in Kobaïan (Matt #2), Monday, 7 April 2025 17:52 (one year ago)

i don't faint faint but i become faint when Shit gets Too Real (period cramps, discussion of painful subjects, therapy, a choir performance that went on longer than i could handle and i had to hunch down amid the legs of the other altos on stage)

my fingers start to go numb, then my face and toes. if i don't get my head low and breathing under control then the numbness creeps further up my limbs and gets to my tongue and i can't talk intelligibly. the first time it got that bad (cramps, bathroom floor) thank goodness my mom found me because it used to happen to her too, and she let me know i wasn't actually dying and to breathe slowly and shallowly. my brother's kid wasn't so lucky -- they were at school, had no idea what was happening, and got hauled away in an ambulance, poor love.

Monica Belushi (cat), Monday, 7 April 2025 18:38 (one year ago)

If I’m standing up for too long. I probably should look into that.

brimstead, Monday, 7 April 2025 18:41 (one year ago)


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