"It's better to be at the bottom of a ladder you want to climb than half way up one you don't"

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As inspired by The Office: Is this statement actually true?

New "I took a job in Industry A even though I wanted a job in Industry B, now I am happy/sad" Answers

Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course it's true. Changing ladders in midstream is dangerous, especially if you're on a horse.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Lord Brocket to thread.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, bollox to that. get half way up an easy to climb ladder, get decent wage expectations, then take a pay cut onto a ladder you DO want to climb. It's quicker, easier, cheaper, and more likely to get you laid.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 08:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, this is what I've done, though I did think ladder A was one I wnated to climb too. On ladder B I may well be a lowly PA, but I think my opportunities for making something of my career are a fair bit better. So, erm, still dud, but less dud than carrying on with something crappy.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

It's good to have pipe dreams. So when it doesn't work out, at least you can say, "I gave it a go."

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but 'a go' isn't much. My assumption is that if you didn't achieve what you wanted, then you didn't try hard enough.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Think of a job like a gf, Nick. Might look great and permanent when you start, but it's only after you've been there a while you notice the flaws, limits and disappointments.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

NB a hypothetical, bad girlfriend.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, good girlfriends have none of these things.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

NB a hypothetical, bad girlfriend.

At first, I read this as "N. is a hypothetical, bad girlfriend," and could only agree.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

that statement is true as long as it doesn't involve you then being on the social securities ladder sponging off the money i pay in taxes from my ladder when you're busy fraffing about looking for your goddam ladder.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes you get half way up the wrong ladder but notice and extra long rung sticking out the side and connecting with a different ladder. Transferable skills, my friends.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck the ladder, I want to fly.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Swiss Barri: "you see, a job is like an ugly lady..."

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

"A job is a ladder you must throw away after you have climbed up it."

Ludwig the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Honestly, Ken, if a career option does not work out for someone, they've probably paid enough "emergency" tax to fully justify any lousy benefits they might get in between jobs, not to mention the indignity of having to go to capitalist Confession at the Jobcentre for the £90 a fortnight which can't be lived on long-term, and isn't meant to be.

Conversely you could be only joking and not actually about to submit a visa request to Daily Mail Island.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Transferable skills, my friends.

What are these strange skills of which you speak?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

In my case, I convinced them that organising office parties and training days for 40-odd people qualified me to organise 4-day conferences for 1000 people.

There is an element of jamminess in finding the long rung (Dan to thread)

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post

Blowjobs?

(NB: no slight to die Madchen is implied in this post.)

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

You disgust me.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

How many x-posts exactly?

Das Mädchen.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I just neutered you.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost oops! yeah suzy sorry i must have caught my flatmate's "ironic" buying mail on sunday thing (he works for the government) i work at the NHS so are all actually financing my going on ilx right now.

i convinced my work i have computer skills just because i did some lousy computer course in uni and is able to change the desktop wallpaper in windows.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"so YOU are all financing" i mean

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes the ladder might be the one you wanted but it's rickety and has a lot of splinters.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: being neutered. How do you know I didn't mean madchen in the plural?!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I got halfway up a bad girlfriend, once. I will never make that mistake, again, soon.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

should have deep throated her.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Keep wriggling, Nipper.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a very good response to this, but decorum forbids me.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

snap

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)


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