the new nickels - wtf

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so i get one of these new nickels and at first i'm like 'wtf - are they commemorating hockey?' and then i look at it and it's got some louisiana purchase thing in place of monticello BUT louisiana purchase was 1803 right? and this was a 2004 nickel - so is it not commemorative at all but just how nickels are gonna be from now on? in which case are they trying to fucking promote imperialism? wtf?

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The sailboat cometh too.

I want me a Cajun nickel, man.

The preparations for the LP bicentennial in New Orleans were very weird, though; lots of banners/signage combining the fleur de lis or a French flag with "bicentennial," which sort of had to make you wonder if people remembered who bought what from whom.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

you just want to old nickelback

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I kinda thought the state quarters was a nice idea but, seeing this, I have decided it is not.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently there's gonna be a Lewis and Clark nickel as well:

http://www.usmint.gov/kids/index.cfm?fileContents=coinNews/newNickel.cfm

(I love those just-for-kids government sites, btw.)

Perhaps we'll have a Trail of Tears nickel sometime soon?

m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

why don't we just have one that depicts the US kicking France in the balls?

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

dude, it's like a peace pipe, dude, man.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

um, people, the US bought the territory from France. That's why it's called the Louisiana PURCHASE.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Used goods, for that matter, it'd already been given to Spain and then taken back. Napoleon had a tag sale, and Jefferson spotted a bargain.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

not so much imperialist as thrifty!

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

See, that's what they should put on the nickel.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

the thrifty nickel!

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

when they come out with the commemorative Mexican-American War dimes, that's when I'll cry "imperialist!"

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

So now we have one more type of change that we can confuse with Canadian counterparts.

(The wheat penny of 1944 looks very much like the current Canadian penny.. and the Lewis & Clark nickel will now look very much like the Canadian dime)

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(at least pre-millenium Canadian dimes... never minding this minor SIZE issue, of course.. me duh)

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

didn't the US buy Loosiana for $24.00?

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Unless that was Manhattan in which case blame public school, aw yeah

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

the Dutch bought Manhattan for what's said to be the equivalent of $24 in trinkets, yeah.

The Louisiana Purchase was considerably more than that, though still a steal given the huge amount of land (LP = Mississippi River and its tributaries, all the way up to Minnesota).

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

It was in the millions :) Jefferson wanted New Orleans because of the Mississippi River and the danger of trade/port being jeopardized by Napoleon's war. Napoleon wanted money because he kept losing expensive battles, so he offered a lot of extra land for extra money. Boom boom jellybean, love connection.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

But $24 back then is like $2 million dollars today!!!!

(which is still a steal, but hey, *pounds on chest grunting*)

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

A nascent republic buying a huge tract of land from a self-proclaimed emperor = clearly the US was "imperialist."

x-post db I'm not even gonna go there.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, stealing 2 mil is easy like that. go there all the way, I say.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

dunno, DB. Martha Stewart could only steal a few hundred thousand before she was unceremoniously nailed, Birkin bag and all

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

well would I be out of line for saying that the statement "But $24 back then is like $2 million dollars today!!!!" is pretty ridiculous? I mean, you meant it as that, right? I hope?

anyway, blaming the US for something the Dutch did (uh people the United States didn't exist when the Dutch settled Manhattan) is pretty stupid.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, I was being silly about that statement, h.

(I thought it was my chest beating and grunting you were referring to when you said "I'm not even gonna go there")

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

It's true; the Dutch can be blamed for so many things on their own. Like displaying Saartje Baartman, the "Hottentot Venus", in a cage and the cutting off her buttocks for further preservation in formaldehyde after she died. And let's not forget the damn tulips!

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

They're making a movie about the tulips! Finally.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

is that spiderman on the left?

kephm, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a new book about the first Dutch dayz of Manhattan, where the author had access to long-forgotten Dutch manuscripts from the era - can't remember title or author though, soz

wasn't the thing about the LP that France didn't quite realize that the "Mississippi and its tributaries thereof" etc went quite so FREAKIN FAR? i.e. up to canada and the rocky mountains

i want a nickel commemorating the XYZ affair

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 April 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Mason and Dixon nickel featuring mechanical duck NOW!

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 1 April 2004 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Why can't we put ourselves on the money instead?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned OTM about being on the money.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 April 2004 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

The glee from typing that was totally disproportionate.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 April 2004 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Island at the Centre of the World: The Untold Story of Dutch Manhattan and the Founding of New York" by Russell Shorto

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 April 2004 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
http://coolgov.com/images/2005NickelObverseLine.jpg

hey baby.

Thomas Jefferson (teeny), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

weird choice of typeface for "liberty"

(canadians: when the queen kicks the bucket does all our currency get overhauled right away?)

jones (actual), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

Liberty the Broadway smash hit!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

I thought he looks like he's whispering it.
"Liberty..."

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

I like it.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

I don't think the currency has to be rejigged immediately Queenie pops off. I remember old 10 pence pieces (the size of cacrtwheels!) with her dad on them still in circulation when I was a kid, and dude I wasn't alive when he was on the throne.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

They weren't even 10 pence pieces - they were old two-shilling coins. I remember you'd occasionally come across them still in the early 90s.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)


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