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does primaries homosocial contact suggest a latent or subtextuak homoerotica .

What is the symbolism of male boys clubs (the government, law offices, CEOs as well as literal clubs like the York in Toronto losing its all male status

Why is Athleticism so vaulable to men ?

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anthonyeaston, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lets try that again 1) does primariarly homosocial contact suggest a latent or subtextual homoerotica ?

2) What is the symbolism of male boys clubs (ie the government, law offices, CEOs as well as literal clubs like the York in Toronto) allowing woman as memebers, does it lose its all male status ?

3 )Why is Athleticism so vaulable to men ?

4 )Are cowboys secretly fond of each other , are soilders ? How willthe allowing of woman into combat do to effectiveness of the troops ?

5) Why are men so savage to those who do not fit in ( corparate, boarding schools, the army, frats ), does being full of testrrone affect there tools of conforming ?

6) How vital is sing gendered space ?

7) am i talkign out of my ass ?

8) Is this new phrasing a way to get onto the new answers ?

anthonyeaston, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

damn it, i hate it when you ask questions that andy warhol's um yes uh no won't asnwer.

Geoff, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1) does primariarly homosocial contact suggest a latent or subtextual homoerotica ?
I'm taking this to mean: Does the fact that some guys hang out mostly with other guys mean they secretly want to bonk each them or are turned on by them?
Not necessarily. Most of the gay guys I grew up with were more inclined to have lots of female friends, even before they came out. As for women, well, the Australian Women's Cricket team is notorious for being a bunch of dykes - even though that's probably not true. Girls are funny. I've only ever met a couple of dykes who weren't promiscuous with boys when they were teenagers so most of the ones I know have always hung out with guys mostly and then even when they stop bonking guys they still have a lot of male friends. I'm totally non-scene though so who knows?

2) What is the symbolism of male boys clubs (ie the government, law offices, CEOs as well as literal clubs like the York in Toronto) allowing woman as memebers, does it lose its all male status ?
Well, obviously if women are allowed to join, the club no longer has an all male status. For some reason I like the idea of having single sex clubs - despite what I say below about single gender spaces. There's no question in my mind that men change the dynamic of a group and I don't always want that male dynamic to be present.

3 )Why is Athleticism so vaulable to men ?
Because men are hunters and fighters.

4 )Are cowboys secretly fond of each other, are soilders ? How willthe allowing of woman into combat do to effectiveness of the troops ?


I dare say some cowboys and soldiers fancy each other. The Israeli's can probably tell you more about letting women into combat than many other people. The traditional argument is that letting women in will distract men because they will be trying to protect the women. Seeing as so many of the men I have come across seem intent on hurting women I very much doubt this. A lot of women like to argue that if women are allowed into combat then there will be less combat in the first place because women are so much better at working stuff out peacefully. I reckon this is bullshit and that women are violent and nasty.

5) Why are men so savage to those who do not fit in ( corparate, boarding schools, the army, frats ), does being full of testrrone affect there tools of conforming ?


Humans have to work as a team, the weak or different members in a team weaken the team as a whole. I think women do this to a much greater degree than men. I think that from an evolutionary perspective teamwork has been more important to women and that is why they are so much more vicious to those that don't fit in.

6) How vital is sing gendered space ?
I do not want to share toilets with blokes. On the other hand I do not believe in "Women's Lounges" and I spent much of my uni day producing graffiti to this effect. In Australia almost all the universities have more females than males. I was unfortunate enough to go to one of the few that had more males (there's only 3 or 4 with more males in whole country) and even worse I was in the Science, Engineering & Technology faculty so we had these dickhead females going around whinging about how we were in a male dominated university and how we needed a Women's Lounge. Stupid bitches. I'm betting none of the other universities had Men's Lounges for their minority male populations.

toraneko, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like his Song.

Sarah, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

new queer answers

anthony, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why do some men hate women? Why do some men like to like to abuse women? Maybe women are getting sick &tired of being sick tired & oppressed? So they want to be in total control of their lives. I'm speaking here as an observer. I for one would love to meet someone who can treat me well and as a companion. (Not as a field hand) I like myself now and that means I can wait for Mr. Right to come along. Gale

Gale Deslongchamps, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

in Dunedin theres lots of boys who like rugby and when they hang out together they show their penises to each other and hump each other. This isn't just some fantasy of mine - i've seen it happen.

hamish, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think you need to talk about this on the rugby thread, Hamish. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think single-gender spaces (both physical and cultural) can generate enormous imagination and energy. The problem historically has been that the imagination and energy produced has been either channelled into improving the position of the single gender concerned (men, 95% of the time), or has been co-opted and diluted (these problems apply to all identity-based groups, not just gender-based ones). The question seems to be - how can the energy and creativity harnessed by single-gender spaces be made to work to the benefit of society as a whole, without a loss of autonomy for the people involved?

Tom, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I met hamish for the first time a t a party tonight and he is waaaaay cool. and he is funny and nice.

rainy, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought the idea of all-male spaces was so they could focus their energies on getting a specific job done and not be competing for the pussy all the time.

dave q, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why do some men hate women?
you hate what youdon't understand. this is why I can now feel sorry for Nietzsche.

helen fordsdale, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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