Doctor Who: Now Michael Grade is BBC Chairman, Will he Scrap Dr Who Again?

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The news every Doctor Who Fan feared, Michael Grade is back.
So will Doctor Who get another series commissioned after this one thats currently being made?

Should Doctor Who fans be worried?

Salvador Dalek, Saturday, 3 April 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Programme making is not really the direct responsibility of the BBC chairman. The Director General has overall control of that.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

you're not helping this be funny.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Will he Scrap Dr Who Again?

Hopefully!

Dave B (daveb), Saturday, 3 April 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

He was a bit nasty about Dr Who when he was on Room 101, much to the exasperation of my erstwhile colleague who used to have a Dalek on his desk such was the depths of his Who-mania.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 3 April 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Whomaniacs are utterly menko. At least Star Trek was good. TNG rocked. But Dr Who was so shit on so many levels. It didn't look good. The acting was diabolical. The scripts risible. Thank God it's gone.

Dave B (daveb), Saturday, 3 April 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave B, you are dead to me.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 3 April 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'm sorry. But it was bobbins.

Dave B (daveb), Saturday, 3 April 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

You have a point if you are talking about a certain era of the show, but the whole thing... well, it is important TV. Looking at the Hartnell, Pertwee, T. Baker and McCoy shows, you would think you were watching 4 different shows really, such was the stylistic difference.

People who slag it off ought to be clear that it ran for 26 years and went through very different phases.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 4 April 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave, do you hate fun?

Ricardo (RickyT), Sunday, 4 April 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

TNG might be good if you're a Relationship Counsellor or professional negotiator, I grant you. Otherwise it was k-boring.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 4 April 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoa, I missed that. TNG better than Dr Who!?

Dave, do you like crack?

Ricardo (RickyT), Sunday, 4 April 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom, are you suggesting that counsellors should learn their trade from watching Deanna Troi? Typical usefulness of her insight:

Enterprise enters orbit of some planet, calls down to base there.
Base commander, while explosions go off in the background, phaser blasts whizzing past his head, sweating, covering his mouth and looking shifty: "No, don't beam down! We don't need you! Everything is fine here! I'm not lying at all!"
Deanna: "Captain, I sense that he may not be telling us everything."

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 April 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

TNG was, in many respects, boring. But it was a lovely comfort blanket. It occasionally rocked deeply hard - yesterday's enterprise being a magnificent episode - and always had good production values. Doctor Who did change over time, but I'd submit an enduring common theme was that it was shit.

Tom - I think you've hit the nail on the head with the reference about important TV. I just don't see it at all. It's partly my bete noire about what's seemingly described as part of UK culture being for people from the home counties. I didn't know anyone who liked it - friends, family etc. It really didn't register on the radar, and yet it's part of the canon of British TV that is ded ded good. Things which are made on the cheap can still be good. Thiungs with risible plotlines and crapola acting can very, very occasionally be good. But apart from Tom Baker's stint (which was far far more about Tom Baker, who is genuinely interesting) it's just a classic piece of boy scout airfix wank dressed up as something quintessentially british; it's not a Britain I ever knew, ot want to know.

So, yes, I hate fun.

Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 4 April 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

it was theoretically a children's show and was constrained by children's show rules though, so it has to be taken on those terms. That it usually tried to rise above this is a plus. TNG wasn't a children's show. If they bring Dr. Who back and treat it like a serious program for once, I think it will be great.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Sunday, 4 April 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember liking Dr Who when I was a kid - that was the Pertwee years, as I recall. Sometimes it was boring, sometimes I enjoyed it, but little has stayed with me. I kept watching until Tom Baker left, I think.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 April 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see that it was all the same, Dave... in the early years, there were some intelligent historical stories, and even an attempt at doing a Shakesperean history of Richard I. There were, too, credible attempts at doing comedy - 'the time meddler', 'the romans', 'the gunfighters' - that used William Hartnell's timing brilliantly.

There was admittedly a level of formula about Pat Troughton's second season, with virtually all stories falling under a 'base under siege' bracket, but the following season saw the boat pushed out, with 'the war games' a masterful sci-fi/mystery epic, and 'the mind robber' being an amazing piece of surrealist tv. The first ep. of that might well be my fav. DW episode.

Then under Pertwee, things became quite settled; initially as serious, credible Quatermass-influenced actioners, with moral issues raised. Then in Season 8 on, rather more cosy stories about alien invasions and quaint English villages.

All of course changing to a Universal/Hammer horror focus for the early Tom Baker... which then shifted into Douglas Adams-script edited knowingness. And then into a more po-faced attempt at sci-fi and credibility from Bidmead/JNT/Saward... only to become a bit of a joke post-1985 hiatus, when it had to be toned down into lighter entertainment. Towards the end of McCoy's stint, it was picking up again; not all that accessible, it was becoming a different beast: more cerebral, if lacking in order, scripts, full of cracking dialogue and a return to more frightening stories. Shame it had to end... seems like Russell T. Davies and the rest know what did make it a good show in various eras, and will be able to raise it to an even higher level perhaps.

Tom May (Tom May), Monday, 12 April 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The good thing about Russell T. Davies is that he's a fantastic storyteller with intriguing and engaging ideas. The bad thing about Russell T. Davies is that the one Doctor Who novel he wrote (_Damaged Goods_) contains the most egregiously out-of-character sex scene to ever appear in a Doctor Who novel, to the point where it seems he's more interested in exposing readers to the concept of indiscriminate gay sex than he is in advancing the story.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 April 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)


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