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I'll tell you for why. I'm going to a Star Wars marathon round a mate's house at the weekend - pizza+pringles+beer+smoke+all 5 (if we can be arsed) star wars films.

I havn't seen them for a while, but I'd like to say something witty, insigtful and clever about them. Since I'm none of the above, I need to leech off you lot.

So, this is where you get to say something cool about Star Wars, give opinions, or just give me a weblink to a half decent site without four screen captures and "What is Mark Hamill doing now?" pages.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

It's either I say something insightful, or we start playing Star Pants.

"But with the pants down, I can't see a thing!"

"You will bring Han Solo and the pants to me."

"Your lack of pants disturb me."

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Check out the very very good A Galaxy Not So Far Away, it's a collection of essays about all aspects of the films.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Have the people who did "Seinfeld and Philosophy"/"Buffy and Philosophy"/etc. done a Star Wars collection?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.uri.edu/personal/szunjic/philos/stuffed.jpg

― Dada, Monday, 5 April 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Forthcoming 2005.

xpost; fuck off Dada, etc.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0805070745/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-6361517-9535169#reader-link

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is Dada's posts alwasy funny and welcome unless they're on YOUR threads? *grumble grumble NIMBY grumble*

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I may well get that Huckle - it does look quite cool. However, that ain't gonna get to me before the weekend (well, maybe it will, but I won't be able to read the bloody thing) - can you summise a particularly cool/interesting point?

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

they are? to me they're pretty annoying on any thread. xpost

― oops (Oops), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The Empire was actually pretty good government. Aside from, y'know, blowing up the odd-planet, they didn't really do anything that bad. I mean, they kept order. The rebels were just shaggy-haired luddites who were completely ill-equipped to run anything.
Maybe tomorrow I'll reread that essay so that a) I can properly credit the author, and b) give a bitter summary with examples and shit.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Best part about watching the original film in retrospect - the kiss and general incestuousness between Luke and Leia (it really could have turned into an oedipal variation where they sleep together and have little three-eyed Jedi, and then find out they're siblings and kill themselves).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It's corn, but the discussion of contract workers and non-combatants and Return of the Jedi in Clerks is pretty good as it goes. If you take that pedantic mindset and apply it, all the chat you require will come along of its own accord.

You must remember that the first 2 make their own chat, such is their shitness. By the time Star Wars itself comes along, you'll be grateful for lack of cgi. By Empire you're flagging. By Jedi, you'll be praying for release.

I watched the first 6 Star treks in one day on the big screen in a lecture thatre. My arse hurt something chronic. That' probably won't happen to you, but you brain will be frazzled, and the theme choon will be seared on your brane.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, watch for Cliff Claven in Empire.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The incest angle on Luke and Leia is completely overblown. They never did much besides that kiss in the original Star Wars, and that was a kiss on the fuckin' cheek!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

And don't give me that "sexual tension" nonsense because it was clear from the minute she started bickering that Leia was thirsting for Han Solo's cock, not Luke's!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Lukes lightsabre wasn't big enough for Leia.

End of sexist rant.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

there was the full-on open mouth kiss in the rebel base on Hoth in Empire, which was also on done to get Solo's dander up.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

from some page at: http://members.aol.com/darth215/oddfacts.html

· The yellow visors worn by rebel pilots were added at the last minute to hide the sweat on the faces of those actors involved in the assualt on Death Star
I in 'A New Hope' - it was filmed on the hottest day in English history!

· Harrison Ford was having tremendous dificulty getting work as an actor and so was forced to work as a carpenter to supliment his income. It was as
he was fitting a new door to Francis Ford Coppola's office that George Lucas noticed him for American Graffiti. The rest, as they say, is history.

· Look carefully at the widescreen version of 'A New Hope' during the scene in Docking Bay 94 when the Falcon is about to blast out of Mos Eisley, and
you should notice a guy in a green shirt on the left of the screen. Looking a complete anacronism in his twentieth century outfit, the misplaced crew
member realises his error and shuffles, embarrased, out of shot!

· After the first Death Star has been destroyed, at the end of 'A New Hope' and the rebel pilots touch down back at base, listen carefully as Luke climbs
down from his X-Wing and rushes to embrace Leia - he is so excited he actually calls her 'Carrie'!

· The Star Wars trilogy originally grossed over $1.3 billion at the box-office, and has made wll over $5 billion in associated merchandising.

· Book for book, the Star Wars series of novels, is the most successful in publishing history

· In the original rough-cut preview screening of 'A New Hope', George Lucas was forced to insert World War II dogfight footage in place of the not yet
completed special effect shots!

· The 1978 vinyll-hooded Jawa figures, which originally retailed for $3, are now worth $1,400 each.

· The Star Wars prequels (Episode I of which will be entitled 'The Phantom Menace' and will be directed by Lucas himself), will be released as
follows; Episode I - 1999, Episode II - 2001, Episode III - 2003.

· During the escape from Death Star I in 'A New Hope', Harrison Ford can be seen mouthing Carrie Fisher's lines to her!

· 20th Century Fox were unable to pay Alec Guiness the fee he demanded for the part of Obi-Wan Kenobi in 'A New Hope', so he instead signed a deal
which gave him a percentage of the film's total profits. He is now a millionaire several times over.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of re: the kiss.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't wait till the Phantom Menace opens in 1999, there's no way it can go wrong!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The "incest angle" is in no small part from the comics and novel(s? -- definitely Splinter of the Mind's Eye) Lucas signed off on, the stuff that came out before the sibling revelation and has Luke pretty explicitly lusting after Leia, without any wiggle room for "he just cared for her instinctively, as a brother would" revisionism.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe I missed the third one last year. I guess I just had Hulk-fever.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

If you look closely, the acting in the first film was rather bad. It didn't get much better.

Ian Grey to thread.

― Lee G (Lee G), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"If you look closely"? It's all fine until you notice the shadow puppets Threepio's making when he isn't in foreground?

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I like to get drunk and yell "AAAAAAAAARRTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"!!!!!!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the acting was never good in the Star Wars movies. Fanboys who complain that the new movies' actors are wooden and unconvincing are just in denial that they've devoted their lives to a kid's movie series.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Once again, I'm sure it would be wicked fun to get drunk with Nickalicious.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

No, the acting wasn't that good aside from Harrison Ford, but at least there was never any scene as agonizingly maudlin as the one after young Anakin kills those aliens who kidnapped his mom in that last movie.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

they weren't aliens since they were on their home planet, dickweed.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(just kidding about the dickweed part, thought it was the appropriate pejorative to use when bickering over nerdy-ass shit on the internet though)

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

They were from North Tatooine and came to South Tatooine because there's better health care.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the issue of slavery on Tattooine is dismissed with in Ep. 2.
In Ep. 1 it sorta seems like it's going to figure big in the future, but when Anakin goes back to Tatt he learns that all the slaves were freed in a card game.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

also, carrie fisher was pretty coked up around the filming for empire and ESPECIALLY jedi.

it's pretty evident during the Holiday Special.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

When the droids turn up at Jabba's palace, the gatekeeper bloke clearly says: "Jabba wanker"

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Huckle Buck OTM. It's all about 60's/70's popular culture:

The Empire are the authoritarian state, aka 'the man'

The Rebel Alliance are all a bunch of shaggy-haired hippy stoners.

― bert (bert), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

anakin's friend in episode 1 grows up to be the Greedo who is killed by Han Solo. This is why Darth Vader hates Han Solo.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, there really was no need for Han to be put in Carbonite, Darth knew the process would work, he was just being vindictive.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

they weren't aliens since they were on their home planet, dickweed.

Ha, I thought that as I wrote it. At one time I may have been geeky enough to know what race they were, but...WAIT! Were they Tuskan Raiders?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got a lego Han Solo in lego carbonite on my desk here. It comes with a lego Boba Fett and a leog Gamorian (or whatever those piggy things are called...I was killing them in Knights of the Old Republic last night).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

also...

***SPOILER***

Obi Wan's dog in Ep III whizzes on Anakin repeatedly thru-out the first act, and then grows up to be Chewbacca.

That is why darth vader hates obi wan, chewbacca, and watersports.

****/SPOILER****

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Kingfish dude, if I could find the LOL thread, I would definetely post your last post there! Well done sir.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"The "incest angle" is in no small part from the comics and novel(s? -- definitely Splinter of the Mind's Eye) ...and has Luke pretty explicitly lusting after Leia,"
My dad read this book to my sister and me when I was in the second grade. The section where Luke and Leia peek at each other as they get undressed made for some uncomfortable moments.

― Morley Safer, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I still disagree that Luke says 'Carrie' at the end of A New Hope, I've listened to it hundreds of times and still not convinced.

Give me the scene where the stormtrooper bangs his head on the door-frame any day.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely incest is only incest if it's consummated? Especially if they didn't even know they were brother and sister. It's just an unnecessary plot device for geeky pervs to wank over.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"THE FORCE IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE!"

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

"Ya Momma's goin on a date. Can you dig that? A date."

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 23 July 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

is that the real milo auckerman?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 23 July 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

it's a clone.

― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 23 July 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

The rest, as they say, is history.

Ever notice how "as they say" has become an essential part of this cliche?

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 23 July 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

There's a very lengthy Freudian/Campbellian analysis of SW here if you scroll down to "Little Orphan Anakin":

http://www.aslan.demon.co.uk/arts.htm

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Sunday, 23 July 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

something original about star wars

― kwisatz haderach, give a dog a bone (latebloomer came rolling home) (latebloomer, Sunday, 23 July 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

You didn't say that, you typed it.

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Sunday, 23 July 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I never hear it said anywhere, but to me it seems pretty obvious that a lot of the original Star Wars costumes and the look and style (primarily of the Tatooine desert portion) of the movie are quite heavily influenced by Jesus Christ Superstar from 1973.

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 23 July 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I like how Lucas 'answered' the 'Death Star staff/families on board etc.' question from Clerks by implying that all storm troopers and soldiers of the Empire were clones who looked like T Morrison.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 23 July 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

toni morrison?!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 23 July 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Song of Sarlaac

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 23 July 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

btw, the kind of thing I'm talking about with JCS is stuff like the first two minutes or so of this scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC8fRRCCDWc
http://images.needcoffee.com/dvd/jcsuperstar2.jpg

and Luke's outfit is totally Jesusy

http://www.karensoasis.com/sw5.jpg
http://academics.hamilton.edu/religious_studies/home/jcst.jpeg

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 23 July 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

NORMAN JEWISON = VISIONARY

― Supercalifragilisticexpiala Brosius (chaki), Sunday, 23 July 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://home.insightbb.com/~maxk/jedithrow.gif

― Marmot 4-Tay: Hold these goddamn chickens! (marmotwolof), Monday, 24 July 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, that's pretty good.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

what is luke doing with hitler?
http://www.karensoasis.com/sw5.jpg

― gear (gear), Monday, 24 July 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

teaching him to dream

― give late a bloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 24 July 2006 05:30 (nineteen years ago)

Triumph of the Jedi

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

r2-d2 makes very good insect repellent

― latebloomer, Sunday, 1 July 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

the underlying themes of man the free individual vs the corporatized machinery of warfare he imposes on himself resonate throughout vonnegut's work as well

― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

okay i'm stealing that gif

― Ste, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

Not specifically about Star Wars but this is pretty great -

http://carriefisher.com/?p=462

― The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

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