Are you a good person?

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Do you even think about whether you are or not?

― Tom, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A: yes.

A: no.

― paul bArclay, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i mean:

yes i think about it.

no i do not think i am.

― paul barclay, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No I'm not a good person. I'm a heartless bitch.

― toraneko, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can definately say without a doubt, that nobody is perfect. I do think about it and i do yry to be a good person. Gale

― Gale Deslongchamps, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i feel guilty about being a bad person. ?I am fat and people are starving my complaency makes me feel like i am a bad person .

― anthonyeaston, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

WellI dont date rap my friends which is a lot more then lots of people I knwo can say (see cockfarmer thread).

― Mr Noodles, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What's wrong with date rap?

I want a girl with extension in her hair / Bamboo earrings, at least two pair / A Fendi bag and a bad attitude / That's all I need to get me in a good mood

What date wouldn't be impressed with a little freestyle?

Silky, milky, a smile like sunshine / That's why I had to dedicate at least one rhyme / To all the cuties in the neighborhood / 'Cause if I didn't tell you, then another brother would

― David Raposa, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Good...not consistently. My bad qualities can really get brought out by my job, and on-line arguments unleash them as well, and those are just the public examples. The private internal ones I will not dwell on here, but yes, to answer the other question, I do think about it quite a bit at times.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd like to think I was a good person. But, I know occasionally I'm prone to selfishness and sarcasm. To be a good person, I think you should just make the most of who you are and live within limitations.

― james, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Define good, Tom? Am I good? It depends on who you ask. Do I consider myself good? Not all the time. Consistency is a myth. Why is it important to be good? These are interesting questions.

― helen fordsdale, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm an arrogant asshole, and I think about it constantly.

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I would like to think of myself as a good person, but then I do BAD things, like escape from bands by texting their members so I don't have to speak to them, hee hee!

― DG, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Which raises the question, are good people or bad people more likely to try to avoid confrontational situations? I suspect good people.

― toraneko, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I want to be bad. Evil triumphs over good because good sucks. Just think of all the stupid and boring adjectives for good. Nice, Lovely, kind - in comparison with adjectives like vituperative, sinister, grouchy...

I dont think too much about it though, I just concentrate on the stats cock

― Menelaus Darcy, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i try to be good. but probably am more like, just relatively harmless.

― duane, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i am lovely

― Alan at home, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

why try Duane? there is no try, only do...

― Menelaus Darcy, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Everyone says I'm a good guy.. and I'm getting sick of it.

― Brian MacDonald, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I reckon you're a good guy but surly that's a good thing?

― toraneko, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I mean: surely that's a good thing?
For some reason surely looked like su-rely to me and didn't makes sense. I don't think your surly. You smile.

― toraneko, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

? is good?

compared to whom?

― Geoff, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ridden with Catholic old skool guilt, I often feel the world is divided between the good and the evil, and i was born on the cynical side of the herd, which accounts for selfish and distrusting, but is that exactly evil?

I would like to think I am on the same side as Rick (from Casablanca, the movie).It is a conforting idea.

― Laetitia, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can't exactly define good, but whatever it is I doubt that I am. I am too complacent jealous and selfish and i do not use commas properly.

― Maria, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sign of a good person = being aware of their faults.

― james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I remember when I was a kid I would stare at Bowie's Space Oddity album before I bought it and I'd imagine that the song "God Knows I'm Good" was some kind of queeny glam boast, like "Ooh, child, God *knows* I'm good!" But then I got the album and found it was just a cheesy "Did You See His Name"-style shoplifters morality tale. Oh well.

Anyway, I'm good, unless being lazy is bad, in which case I'm superbad. I'm too lazy to think about it much.

― Arthur, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Everyone says I'm a good guy.. and I'm getting sick of it.

Find someone to beat up.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Find someone to beat up

That almost happened last night after helping my co-hip-hop DJ return his turntables to his pad last night. This guy just drunkenly starts a brawl with his drunk neighbors... and who's the least drunk guy who almost has to come and drop science here?

Of course, earlier at the party there was this angry goth girl, who me and friends decided to call "Glen", who wanted to destroy the head part of my chicken costume. NOT COOL AT ALL! She's definitely not a good person.

― Brian MacDonald, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sign of a good person = being aware of their faults.

Absolutely nogt. Sign of a good person = being aware of their faults and TRYING TO CHANGE.

― maria, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh yeah! d'oh!

― james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am an arrogant prick to people. I am easily irritated. I am lazy.

I have redeeming qualities and I've done lots of "good" work in my time with charities or whatever but I don't think thats too significant really.

― Ronan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Avoiding confrontation = good? Under many circumstances, I wouldn't agree with that. Avoiding confrontation tends to serve mainly selfish purposes - assuming there is a valid reason to confront that is. Since I first saw this thread, I've been avoiding calling David Raposa out over his flippant joking re: date rape (upthread) even though I was offended by the insensitivity to the fact that nearly one in five women has experienced this firsthand (meaning certainly at least one person who will read those words) and she will probably feel quite bad when she reads that. And to say that she will feel bad is a nearly obscene oversimplication to say the least. Since that woman that I'd be advocating, is luckily not myself, I don't think I'm a particularly good person, because I only thought of the inconvenience to myself and damage to my image that creating a conflict would entail, and I didn't listen to my conscience which knew that the right thing to do would be to stick up for the nameless other "she" who will read it and will feel victimized all over again by the lack of support. In addition, assuming David actually meant to be insensitive by what he said, yet avoiding theconfronation, is equally bad as it gives him no chance to respond or qualify his comments. Thus, I have decided that avoiding conflict generally denotes cowardice and is the mark of a weak person. There are exceptions of course.

― Kim, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nobody is good, so I just pretend that everybody is. Except, my friend Janus IS good. What do you make of that?

― maryann, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i am a mixture of good and bad. when i am being nice too much the evil cannot help but take over. i really do try to be good but i am not very levelheaded and that makes me do some bad things sometimes. whats worse is that i often don't even regret the bad things i do, i just excuse myself by going, oh i'm just impulsive, and i'll put it down to life experience...but i never do.

― di, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm just as inconsistent and chock full of contradiction as the next person. Anyone who perceives themselves as plain good OR bad is just plain deluded.

― Trevor, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm very good, I really am.

― chris, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have just spent 90 minutes on here instead of working on stuff due today. is that good or bad?

― smythe,mr smythe, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hi Kim - I wasn't saying that it was good to avoid confrontation. I meant that the type of person who is more likely to be considered good is also the type of person who is more likely to avoid confrontation. As I think avoiding confrontation is more often bad that good I was trying to point out the irony in the fact that so- called "good" people are more likely to do it.

Because I am bad and I do not avoid confrontation I would like to comment on the date rape thing.

I personally feel that anyone who has had something really horrible happen to them (date rape, severe bashing, other sexual or physical or mental abuse) and is still so sensitive about it that they get upset by references such a thing should seek out some sort of serious help. If such references do totally freak someone out then in someways that is a good thing because it means that the person is prompted to do something about the thing that have in their past. I believe that freaking out is often a necessary part of dealing with bad stuff and is far better than supressment.

I think that no topic should be taboo and especially that no topic should be taboo when it comes to humour. I think that humour is the one of the best ways to over come anger, resentment, grief, guilt etc.

I also think that if, by being overly politically correct and sensitive towards the feelings of people who may or may not have been victims, we stop talking about such topics seriously, with humour, and with very bad taste that those topics will once again become hidden and not recognised as occurring in our society.

I suspect that many people would find it easier to "confess" (can't think of a more appropriate word at the moment sorry) to having been a victim of such a crime in a setting where the topic had been brought up with humour, be it black and tastless or not, than in a setting where the topic was being discussed with gravity.

Anyway, it was Noodles who was really being flippant about date rape. David was just being funny.

― toraneko, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, I thought David's joke was funny.

― Kerry, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, I should say more here. Having worked with rape victims on and off over the years, I'd say that their sensitivities are anything but delicate, and they tend to find things funny that others would find completely tasteless. It's how the joke is told and who is telling it, rather than the subject itself. But anyway, David wasn't joking about date rape - he was joking about "date rap".

― Kerry, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I try to be fair. I don't always succeed. It's not always easy to think a whole scenerio through to see all sides of it, but the fact that I try, rather than simply finding a way to profit from each instance of life, makes me feel like I'm "good". But, goodness doesn't mean much to me. If everyone was fair, there would be no problems in life. It's not a question of good or bad, it's a question of what makes sense. If you want a better life, don't treat each instance as if your actions have no impact on the world. The whole "Ah, everyone does it" mindset is what is ruining everyday life. It really makes no sense, given that most people really want to have kids. They're encouraging and promoting ideas like: "you've got to take what's your while you're still around to enjoy it", "get it before someone takes it from you", "if you don't get it, someone else will" and "me first, outta my way" which does nothing to promote a healthy lifestyle and, in fact, creates a hostile, selfish environment that gets worse by the year and yet they're all gung ho about raising kids.

Anyway, the answer to your question is no.

― Nude Spock, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Step 1. Mention serious topic in passing.

Step 2. Someone makes fairly innocent joke.

Step 3. Someone gets offended.

Repeat ad nauseam.

― Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry, I didn't mean to make anyone uncomfortable. I think my point was missed slightly - I was damning myself for being a coward - not David. He has every right to make whatever joke he wants, mentioning it was meant as an example and it may not actually hurt anyone, yet *I* believed that it would - but didn't say a word in their defence (until indirectly in that post). I also pointed out that my silent brooding was unfair to David as it meant I was assuming the worst of him. It was meant as a confession - not an accusation. Because otherwise I *still* probably wouldn't have said anything. The question posed by Tom is "do I think about whether I am a good person?" and my answer is I do think about it - too much - and my worst fear is that this type of cowardice in situations as small as this will turn me into one of those people who hears the screams coming from outside in the street, but then just locks the window and turns up the TV.

― Kim, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...

Nobody is perfect, and everybody has his / her own weakness and strength. Depending on his background, if one knows what is right but acts differently, then he is not a good person. Anything done unknowingly can not make him a bad person and if he learns from his mistakes and acts accordingly then he is a good person.

What matters most is what his parents/school/neighbours, and in general his environment teaches him about goodness.

― Munit Demo, Sunday, 25 April 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'm a bad person, but other people think I'm a good person. This tension is what makes me an interesting person, I reckon.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Sunday, 25 April 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:23 (eighteen years ago)

I like the starkness of the handle "Tom." As for being good, I try! I think ppl start thinking about this after adolescence, it becomes a concern.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:36 (eighteen years ago)

well, more of one at least.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:36 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrCl84ejQaQ&feature=related

― negotiable, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:46 (eighteen years ago)

No. End of.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

In general, not really, but I was very ;_; at aimurchie's kitten story so I can't be *that* bad.

― Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

I DON'T KNOW!!!

― strgn, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

one thing I know, having just wasted six months of my live, is that I'm never taking on a job again as a favour to anyone else.

― ledge, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

live? life. live is life, la la la lala.

― ledge, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

― strgn, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Taking on a job as a favor to someone truly sounds horrible.

As many have stated in so many words nothing is black and white. We are all good and we are all bad. What sets you apart is whether you are able to take pleasure in both parts equally.

― Bonita Applebum, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

Thing is I couldn't think of any concrete reasons for not taking the job beyond "I just don't want to". So I think my main lesson is "I just don't want to" is as good a reason as any.

― ledge, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

being GOOD is not enough. there's lotsa GOOD people BURNING IN HELL.

― andrew m., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

name one

― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus. He volunteered.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

i was trying to get my boyfriend to explain jesus to me the other night. it was confusing.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

I had a girlfriend who was pretty into Jesus. We danced around the topic.

― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

jesus paid the price.

next question.

― andrew m., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

On the basis that I've never gone out of my way to harm anyone or taken an opportunity to relish in someone else's discomfort. And that I'm forever sacrificing own wants and needs if I see an option to help someone else. Then yes I'm a good person.

― Ste, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

I've never gone out of my way to harm anyone or taken an opportunity to relish in someone else's discomfort.

Really? Never? That's amazing if true. (The second part at least.)

― Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

i know wow

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

The Good Test

― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm, so if you haven't gone to church instead of rescuing your mother from the jaws of a killer shark, you are a bad person.

Tarra for today.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

pretty easy to get 10/10 there.

― ledge, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

Well I'm fucked then, having broken 8 out of the 10 commandments. I don't think I've murdered anyone so that may get me a slightly cooler circle of hell.

― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

Think again...

Jesus warned "Whoever is angry with his brother without cause, is in danger of judgment," (Matthew 5:22) and the Bible says, "He who hates his brother is a murderer," (1 John 3:15). God sees hatred in the heart to be as wicked as murder. We can violate His Law by attitude and intent.

― ledge, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

Oh bugger.

― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

oh man that test. decided not to go further after that first question. but this:

"Jesus said to love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength-- so much, that your love for your parents, brothers and sisters, friends, and even your own life is like hatred compared to your love and devotion for God. Have you ever failed to put Him first in your life?"

ha! with friends like you, lord, who needs enemies.

― andrew m., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

being GOOD is not enough. there's lotsa GOOD people BURNING IN HELL.

-- andrew m., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:12 (2 hours ago) Link

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

one of many frightening nuggets of "wisdom" learnt at baptist youth conferences and such. those were the days.

― andrew m., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

and i was trying to be funny. just wanted to stress that.

― andrew m., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, i guess that is contingent on whether or not you believe in HELL

oh haha, you were trying to be funny :)

i get the drift of the message anyway: life's completely unfair.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

i get the drift of the message anyway: life's completely unfair.

Smoke if you got 'em

― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

:-)

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

i'm murdering you all right now WITH MY MIND*

*not really, but i'm looking forward to being punished for it anyways!

― andrew m., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

funnily enough when my boss was sat next to me yesterday going over in excruciating detail some exceedingly tedious things that had to be changed, i had an exceedingly strong sensation of wanting to stab him in the eye with a pencil.

luckily i'm leaving this job tomorrow.

― ledge, Thursday, 27 March 2008 09:38 (eighteen years ago)

that is very lucky, i think.

― Surmounter, Thursday, 27 March 2008 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

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