best footballer you've seen play in the flesh (ie NOT on TV)

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inspired by the Maradona thread

who have you seen in action, and were they actually any good?

am thinking hard about this one...

stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

ally c

ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Platini.

He was ... 35 by then, I guess.

the bellefox, Monday, 19 April 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

in action during ATP 2001 (?) and scored one of the best goals i've ever seen. xpost

ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Henrik Larsson.

Danny Quintana (danny quintana), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Best when we saw them play, or best that we've seen play?

If the former, Teddy Sheringham; if the latter Jurgen Klinsmann or Ryan Giggs.

(NB. almost all my in-the-flesh football-watching is mid-90s Tottenham)

Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www2.raisport.rai.it/news/rubriche/csiamo/200011/24/3a1eb54905415/Schillaci1.jpg

Biggest waste of talent in footballing history. A shame. I saw him during his brief return to Palermo around... 97? 98? He was about 37 at the time, but he still had that final touch. If he'd have kept his drug problems under control, and been a little more careful as to whom he associated with, I'm sure we'd be talking about him as one of the best footballers of the 90s.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Lubomir Moravcik

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

lombardo

hes coming back to palace too

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

In recent years, Paolo di Canio, but I watched Hoddle take apart West Ham once. Unbelievably accurate passing.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Klinsmann.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Who is that, Dom?

I'd pimp for Chris Waddle at Sheffield Wednesday in 1993. He was properly wonderful.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Toto Schillaci, Nick.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

My favourite ever description of him was by a hip-hop journalist who reffered to him as "ecstasy chomping goal-hanger".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Dalglish, closely followed by Barnes

chris (chris), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

this is a list of all the league and international matches i have been too in my life:

Watford v Newcastle (87)
Arsenal v OXford (87)
Tottenham v Oxford (88)
QPR v Oxford (88)
England v Sweden (88)
QPR v Sheff Wed (93)
Chelsea v Sheff Wed (94)
Watford v Stoke (94)
England v Nigeria (94)
Tottenham v Chelsea (02)
England v Liechtenstein (03)
Athletic Bilbao v Real Valladolid (04)

not many at all i know. but on the basis of this i think the best player by rep i have seen is Beckham or Shearer in the England games - or Zola against Spurs, and the best individual 'on the day' performance i have witnessed is MICHAEL MEAKER for QPR against Wednesday. Oh dear.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, I forgot Dalglish, doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, in about 1994 or 1995 I saw England draw with Norway at Wembley, dull as all fucking hell, but Rob Jones at rightback was fucking outstanding.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel quite privileged to have seen Stoitchkov, Romario, Michael Laudrup, Bernd Schuster, Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo and many others but the best was Mike Brolley.

Adam Faithless (Adam Faithless), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah I forgot Figo, Rivaldo was useless that night though

chris (chris), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to go and see Barnet when I was a nipper when Jimmy Greaves was running out for them. I think it's fair to say he was past his prime by that point though.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I've seen Fulham vs Leeds twice, Fulham vs Chelsea & Fulham vs newcastle. Hmm not sure really!!!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Not Michael Duberry then?

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahahahahahaha!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason Lee is *not* the best player I've seen play live.

chris (chris), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i've seen Devon 'Emile heskey? pipsqueak!' White live

stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably Baresi or Maldini. I saw England w/Shearer and Owen pound Luxembourg in, like, 99 or so (McManaman even scored twice - that's his international highlight reel right there), the Brazil 94 WC team play in Detroit, and Stoitchkov and a dreadful, uninterested Matthaeus in MLS, but Baresi is probably the best of that bunch (and unlike Hristo and Lothar he was at his peak at the time).

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in America so at a disadvantage, but i just saw supposed 14 year old Freddy Adu score his first professional goal. If he turns out to be as good as they say, maybe it will be impressive.

Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The quicker he gets out of the US and over to Europe the better then

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Eric Cantona.

Gazza.

Rivaldo (I saw his first match for Barca *drool*).

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss football so, so much. :(

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Robin Friday.

Baravelli. (Jake Proudlock), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Freddy Adu is the new Sonny Pike.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you really see Friday Baravelli? Was he as good as everyone says?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Pele, in the NASL days.

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Monday, 19 April 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Trevor Brooking was terrific in his prime, but those mazy runs of Alan Devonshire still send shivers down my backbone.

I've always wanted to see Alvaro Recoba play and made it to the San Siro a couple of years back. He had a stinker.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only seen a couple of "big" games, Chelsea's 2001 vintage and AC Milan and England in 1993. Milan had an end-of-seasons stinker, so they're disqualified; I don't remember England's performance vs San Marino being that great, even though Ian Wright scored 4; so it'll have to be Marcel Desailly, who had a massive game for Chelsea against Bradford - I'd never quite seen what the fuss was about him until that day.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 19 April 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris Waddle in his penultimate season at Spurs was fantastic. I was at the rain affected game at the Dell when he bamboozled the Saints defence and scored one of the goals of the season. Also saw Erik Thorstvedt wallop a young Shearer and only get a yellow.

Jonnie, Monday, 19 April 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Diego Maradona- Man Utd versus Barca, 1983 WCWC second leg quarter final. He played like a donkey though.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 19 April 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

For Chelsea best ever: Zola, Lampard 2003/4, Nevin, Durie, Cudicini, Terry, Hazard (1st half v Notts Forest 86/87 season.)

Against Chelsea : Gascoigne, Henry, Klinsmann, Le Tissier

Other : Bobby Charlton and Nobby Stiles for Preston V Grimsby in about 1973.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 19 April 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

franz carr

bobby mimms

jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 April 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I lived in Brazil for three years, where we were somewhat spoilt in this regard. I saw the national team once, but it pelted down, as in utter deluge, for an hour before kick-off, rendering the whole thing a waste of time. I was gutted. The player that I remember really cooing over was Savio, who was a little diamond, but never properly made it, somehow.

Oh and we had George Weah at City for a season, and he occasionally treated us to some mesmerising stuff. Only occasionally, mind.

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Monday, 19 April 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, I saw gazza get sent off whilst playing for newcastle.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 April 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Thierry Henry. 'nuff said.

pingu (gimikz), Monday, 19 April 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Johnny Metgod, he was supposed to be good. And Chris Waddle.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 April 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm
Marco van Basten in the 88 european cup final, the only real prize we won so far, but you never know about this summer :D

Jeee (jeeeps), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a Bristol Rovers fan, and I have never seen a real top class game. I was at our home league game against Man Utd in 1974, I think it was, but I don't remember who was in the side. If I had to choose from players I saw more than once, it would be Nigel Martyn edging out Marcus Stewart, I guess.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Jimmy Johnstone.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Player - Head says Tiss. Heart says Magilton.

Performance - Chris Wreh, Arsenal 1-0 Wimbledon, Selhurst Park, 1998-ish I think. Their double season anyhow.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 19 April 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck. I went to dig out my ticket collection to job my memory and I appear to have lost it. Every match I went to in Italy. That's once a fortnight for the whole 96-97 season, plus trips back inc. Champions League semi between Inter & Man Utd at the San Siro. Fuck, fuck, fuck. 'Scuse my French.

Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 19 April 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

In the meantime, to answer the question, Ronaldo - but he was playing for Inter and going through the bad patch. I did see him score once. But the goals I really remember are Shevchenko's bullets. Pow.

But fuck. I'm going to turn my flat upside down now.

Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 19 April 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Pele (also in NASL days, playing for New York against the Vancouver Whitecaps, must have been around 1977)

Best (also NASL, but for Manchester United in the season they were relegated 73-74, I was pretty young).

Loads more, but I've since lost all my United Reviews, and anyway, most of my Old Trafford attendance (£2.50 at the turnstiles for the Stretford End!) was in the '80s when the Reds didn't exactly have a star-studded roster (Bryan Robson being the only consistent exception).

David A. (Davant), Monday, 19 April 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Ronaldo too, when he was at Barcelona. Others I am pleased to be able to say I've seen include Ronaldinho, Beckham, Brian Laudrup and Del Piero. I can't believe I haven't seen Zidane yet, or that Henry didn't play when I went to see Celtic v Arsenal. I will rectify not having seen them at some point though.

The only time I actually saw Jimmy Johnstone play, he was about 50 - it was one of these daft kickabout things they serve up for entertainment, it was when they were about to bulldoze the Jungle at Parkhead, and they had the knocking-on-a-bit Lisbon Lions vs the Man U team of 68 (similarly ancient). Johnstone was a joy to watch and scored an absolute belter of a goal. I wish I'd seen him in his prime.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 19 April 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The NASL days really built up a nice resume, though I never saw Pele. I remember Cruyff, Best, Beckenbauer. I saw Giorgio Chinaglia get a hat trick against der Sting one game in... 1981? My favorite player-- certainly one of the few who played all-out in that jejune retirement league-- was Karl-Heinz Granitza.

There was also USA 94: a Batistuta hat trick (Maradona scored, too), and Roberto Baggio in that Ireland win over Italy.

Galatasaray stuffed the Metrostars in a friendly, and Hagi played in that one (I think he scored off a free kick, and the Turkish supporters had the most enormous portrait of Ataturk that they unveiled as some sort of coup de grace). Stoitchkov spent the last few years of his career playing for Chicago and DC in MLS, and while he was past his best form, he still had that thumping left foot, and he was still nuts. Matthaeus played for the Metros in 2000, but he really didn't give a rat's ass about anything but his fancy Trump Tower-dwelliing lifestyle, and his piss-poor attitude saw him benched halfway through the season. He's still despised by Metro fans.

And I saw that Adu game the other day. Didn't even realize it was he who got the goal unti I watched MLS Wrap that night. Nice, opportunistic goal, and I'm sure he's got a good future, but far more significant is that the METROS WON THE GAME and DC can go to hell as we're on top of the table. Evidently the only folks who congratulated little Freddy after the goal were Metro players. If his team resents him for outearning them all, so much the better for the rest of the league.

I have a good "played against" story that I think I already mentioned in ILE: on a lark some friends of mine put a side together for a tournament celebrating the United Nations' fiftieth birthday. We were drawn against "Paraguay," who we reckoned would be a bunch of fat. beer-league klutzes (like us). HA. They were real frigging footballers, led by Julio Cesar Romero, "Romerito," who not only scored in the 1986 World Cup, who not only was South American player of the year in 1985 with Fluminense, but who had actually played in France 98 just a year and change before he played us. We got thumped 8-0, a miraculous result for us. Our great moment was winning a corner kick late in the match.

Dickerson Pike (Dickerson Pike), Monday, 19 April 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Zidane and Kewell, in an Australia-France friendly. It pissed rain all day and night so the game was ruined really, but the pair of them made it look effortless. We should've beaten France, but the ref waved away a pretty obvious penalty right at the death.

Recoba played against us for Uruguay a few days later in a World Cup qualifier, he hit this enormous lob from halfway that looped upwards and then dropped like a missile. Schwarzer only just grabbed as it was going to cross the goal line, everyone sitting where I was thought it had crossed actually.

Hayden Nicholls (Pop the Weasel), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Eric Cantona.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)


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