AMERICANS who pretend to be IRISH - C or D?

But an even bigger dud is Back From Americas (BFAs), Irish people who've spent time in the US and are pricks because of it and talk funny to boot. Like me.

My Irish roots are in Enniskillen and are most probably the result of Highland clearance as my grandfather with the Irish surname was married in an Episcopal church. But we are definitely more Celt than, say, Pict or Viking.

Cor: I think I had a shamrock shake in Philadelphia just over 25 years ago. Probably not since.

Well, it's a crock. I went to Ireland and all the guys wear light blue polo shirts and would prefer to drink Miller if it was cheaper.

(I actually wanted to write a screenplay about these faux Irishmen actually saving their money and going to Eire and being disappointed when all the guys in the pubs are just watching Lakers games anyway... )

(kill kill kill kill kill...)

Check it out... he's rocking the mandolin like Ace Frehley!

is that dud? (not the ira part)

um, I'm not even gonna touch this one.

just whether or not such a person was pretending to be irish.

there is some contention over here about at what point do you stop claiming your heritage so strongly.

i'm 3rd generation mexican-american, do i have the right to identify as such? 1st generations may not think so. . .

This is something I'm absolutely convinced of - being Irish in America is considered cool for some reason so a lot of people have either invented or imagined Irish roots when a lot are probably Scottish or even .... gulp .... English. Didn't I say this upthread?

He doesn't jam the Pogues quite as loud as he used to...

i suppose I should've omitted that part knowing the political malestrom that might follow.

this guy is one of my boyfriends so I can confirm that regardless of controversial views, is not a dickhead.

similar numbers can claim German ancestry, though for some inexplicable reason this does not appear to be as fashionable.

not true. see central tx. or anywhere during oktoberfest.

OKTOBERFEST

Or they think Scotland is a part of Ireland, etc. It's very irritating.

ha ha! stop!

i would challenge any average american to successfully differentiate the irish and scottish accent.

that seems really easy. as has been alluded to upthread, I bet it'd be harder for the average American to point out the two on a map.
I hung out with a couple of English blokes the other day and they said they have difficulty distinguishing between an Irish and a New England accent.

i think i've posted about this before:

LONDON - Classic or Dud?

How is parentage accidental? Do you think there is some pre-existing soul randomly assigned to a body? If you didn't have your current parents you wouldn't exist.

uh, this seems pretty easy to me. i recognize a scottish accent immediately. however, sometimes an irish accent sounds almost american to me! no offense to the irish.

mike myers seems to think he knows what a scottish accent sounds like.

And lots of people seem to think that Mike Myers can do a Scottish accent sounds like. He can't.

Errrrrrr, ignore the last two words of that sentence.

Wow. So following this logic, my maternal grandparents were both Spanish, and since they were both Spanish, I'm both Mexican and Spanish! Whoa, crazy dual citizenship time! ;)

(I'm kidding you, BTW.)

Over here, it's "cool" to be considered Polish, German, Czech, and/or... you guessed it, Irish. Though most of the Americans of European extraction around here are of Polish and/or German ancestry. And yes, I think that's how it should be phrased; unless you truly were born in another country and once claimed citizenship to said country, you're an American of __________ ancestry. You're still highlighting your ethnic heritage, but aren't doing so in a manner that denies the fact that yes, you're an American.

Irish people don't say Southern Ireland unless they mean Cork or Kerry. That's a top tip for any of you who may be trying to pass for Irish. Just like English people don't refer to themselves as British.

If your granny was born in Ireland, you're considered Irish enough to represent us at football, so I suppose that's fair enough.

And a tangential thread question:
Does it annoy Americans when they see Irish or British actors pretending to be Americans? Don't they wonder (as I sometimes do when I see Gwyneth Paltrow pretending to be English (not that she's not good at it)) why they couldn't have got a real American to do it? It's not like they're in short supply or anything.

When I said Southern Irish that's pretty much what I meant, which is why I said it, i.e. people from the opposite end of Ireland to Ulster. I wasn't passing myself off as Irish I was speaking with my usual accent. Plus English don't refer to themselves as British? Really?

English people (in my experience of them) will refer to themselves as British in certain circumstances, but I've often heard Americans say things like 'oh, she spent three months in London and came back speaking with this fake British accent', or something, when they mean English. Of course that could be just the people I know.

Danny, perhaps you should refrain from commenting on things you obviously know nothing about. 'Irish Americans', i.e., Irish immigrants and their children, were discriminated against in the nineteenth century, and openly mocked in the press, in literature, etc.. They pretty much needed their own educational system, because textbooks and curricula were anti-Irish and anti-Catholic. They were considered a separate 'race' of people from the 'natives', i.e., Anglo-Saxons. When you're treated this way because of your national origin, you don't drop the ethnic designation, attempt to assimilate and start simply calling yourself 'American'.

This is the historical background of that university and its team name.

God damn.

And that explains Bill O'Reilly does it?

I don't comment on the historical and cultural affairs in countries other than my own - I don't see why people feel free to do the same to Americans. It's still incredibly rude and shamelessly ignorant and it's a real problem on this board.

Raggett is funny on this thread! ... Again!

So is Farrell, in his way.

I think Paul Muldoon should be recalled from the US to run Northern Ireland.

It took 116 posts.

http://i.imgur.com/hyi4Rcp.png

Is it St. Paddy's Day over there already?

i suppose everyone's headed to mar o'lago tomorrow

Surely there's enough room in the budget to dye Lake Worth Lagoon green for the festivities.

you irrepressible Nordbloods love this nonsense! I don't touch Guinness these days - it seems I have to do an extra hour on the bike to burn off every pint that hasn't even got me slightly fresh and added an extra layer to my gut.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/32/2c/54/322c54ee1b578d449212c86ef1203d94.jpg

My granny in Tralee used to send me a card with an affixed plastic badge I was forced to wear to school every St Patrick's day. The 10 punt note would be requisitioned by mum cos kids were not allowed have money in the 70's. In short St Patrick's Day - bag of shite!

The original Scots were, however, from Ireland. They invaded the lands of the Caledonii and the Pictii.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:19 (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This might not be true after all, it seems.

Title is weird. It's possible to be both, no?

There I go again taking everything so literally

It is not rly

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/arts/television/jimmy-fallon-tonight-show-interview-trump.html

Then he stepped to the spot where he delivers his monologue each evening and noted that the stage mark was in the shape of a four-leaf clover. “I’m Irish,” he explained, “and I need all the luck I can get.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Fallon#Early_life

Fallon's ancestry is five-eighths Irish

The Ballyraggett lads are playing fuck again I see

Well now I have to ask.

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/gardai-investigation-ballyragget-376474&ved=0ahUKEwjLwuTWm5LXAhWIfxoKHT1zBS0QFghXMA0&usg=AOvVaw37JTjcqZXrydSq11Yr1kRD&cf=1

I really should finally go over there and organize them along proper lines. Modest proposal style, expanded.