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I'm some few pages from the end of Donna Tart's Secret History. I'm reading it cos my ex said I'd like it, and I started to read it. then we broke up. so i need some extra perspective here, because I think it's one of the most boring "thrillers" i've read. i keep re-reading the blurb on the back cos I can't believe the praise poured on it.

Please tell me why this is a good book. I'm not too interested in people agreeing with me (though you can if you like), I just want to know what I missed. there MUST be something. it's not in the language and the dialogue, there's very rarely an interesting sentence, there's very rarely anything of any interest ever. the plot is so flabby -- something happens roughly once every 100 pages. just kill the fucker and get on with it. For the first time I'm skimming a book to the end. usually if i find myself skimming, i give up... *calm calm calm*. help me, please

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

new thoughtful answers

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've read that, strangely enough one of my lecturers used to rabbit on and on about how good it was. I found a copy in a second hand books store for a couple of dollars, took it home and prepared to be thrilled. That never happened of course, I just wanted all of the stupid little pratts to die painfully. In some cases it happened, in others it didnt. I have not quite figured out why the lecturer liked it so much, he must have identified with the mento character I think The paper was on the fragility of goodness- ethics in literature. He probably thought there was some approximation of the nietzschian superman in the character of 'Henry?' or something.

Sorry I can't tell you what you have missed, but I completely failed to get caught up in the plot or like any of the characters so I skimmed through to the end myself. bloody enclosed societies at university- never found one myself.

Menelaus Darcy, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

that was an interesting proviso in your second comment. I suppose I failed on both counts- to disagree with you AND to be thoughtful.

I haven't read it for ages but I know your pain :)

Menelaus Darcy, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm sorry, I can't help you. I loved that book and I still don't know why. I've read it a couple of times actually. Something to do with the presence of omens, the bizarre distance which seems to exist between Richard and the others, I don't know. It has an atmosphere which thrilled me. It's a very adolescent book though, which I guess some people don't like. I very very rarely enjoy American books, but I loved this one. And there are lots of Gatsby echoes, which is great.

Sam, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i read it ages ago... it was kind of trashy but i just enjoyed it. it was brain fluff. and the author is called Tartt, fnehh heh heh...

katie, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I remember I liked it back in the days although I have a hard time explaining why exactly. Probably my naive admiration for pale, Greek speaking, posh, black clothes wearing girls & boys.

Is she going to publish a new book this century?

Omar, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I read it years and years ago when it came out so the details are a bit fuzzy. It was merely okay, I don't think I found it quite as boring as you did Alan but I wasn't loving it either.

It would have been better if they just thought they killed the farmer, and he really came back and hunted them down one by one a la I Know What You Did Last Summer. I would have been pleased to see those annoying kids picked off.

Nicole, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oooh, this sounds like pleasant fluff.

Maria, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

fluff as in not overtaxing on the old intellect. wouldn't want Maria to think i thought murdering people during an experimental Bacchanal was "fluff". see? the very idea = preposterous.

katie, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nine years pass...

So yeah, read this. I liked it. I felt like it lost its way a bit later in the book, like maybe it could have finished in about 100 fewer pages (I especially found that there was too much description of the Bunny family/funeral stuff, which I found very flat). But overall good.

I had a professor very much like Julian so that brought another level of enjoyment.

Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

Procopius, in his Secret History indulges in quite a lot of scurrilous rumor-mongering about the Empress Theodora and Emperor Justinian, but because there are so few reliable sources for that period in Byzantine history, most post-Renaissance historians have been content to accept his rumors at near to face value without secondary sources, simply because they sympathize with anyone who writes history more quickly than with his subjects.

For myself, the plausibility of his tittle-tattle about orgies, palace intrigue and murder are not sufficient to secure my whole-hearted belief. There is as much malice in the governed as in the governing and at this late date is is hard to sift between them.

Aimless, Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:45 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes i just want to read something else like this book not because i loved it but because it was gripping & had such a tone and mood you could be absorbed by. i liked the second one, too, & think her next one is apparently not so far away.

the parts about the guy's deathly, lonesome winter are good iirc.

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:41 (fourteen years ago)

Need to read this again really, did love it the first time around, when I was not so much older than the protagonists. I think identifying with them - if not entirely sympathising - probably contributes a good deal to the book's charm. Found The Little Friend to be a big slog but still looking forward to her next one, if the publishing dates are to be believed then she's sticking rigidly to a one novel every ten years cycle.

antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Saturday, 8 October 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes i just want to read something else like this book not because i loved it but because it was gripping & had such a tone and mood you could be absorbed by. i liked the second one, too, & think her next one is apparently not so far away.

the parts about the guy's deathly, lonesome winter are good iirc.

― honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Saturday, October 8, 2011 6:41 AM Bookmark

Yeah, I loved this part. Really it's not a thriller so much as a novel of decline/decay.

Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Saturday, 8 October 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

Found The Little Friend to be a big slog but still looking forward to her next one

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it isn't like i've re-read it or anything but i assume, when i think of that book, that its rep & that it suffered are because of the shaggy dog story element to it; that it pitched itself as a mystery & wasn't, then a mystery, but at that point it clearly wasn't about being a mystery it was about being a vivid portrait of a time & a family & a time in a family &c&c&c. and so the kind of thing you might get disappointed at, on account of how your expectations are primed, but which is meritous in itself. i liked it.

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Saturday, 8 October 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)


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