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when does it go away ?

anthony, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not nearly soon enough. Mine insists on following me around like a ruddy great chafing millstone round my neck.

Trevor, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

history is a set of lies agreed upon...

smythe,mr smythe, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

after morning break when we get double games, yay!

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

? do you mean when? when did it exist?

Geoff, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The week-by-week events of politics linger in the mind for a few years tops, even if you're interested. Reading Servants Of The People I was struck by how little of the last four years I could remember clearly, and I'm (by 'training') a historian.

Tom, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four years pass...
Why is history considered a boring subject?

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 27 April 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

Probably because of the sorts of people that tend to teach it.

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Thursday, 27 April 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

But still, all they'd have to do is cover the death of Catherine the Great and even the most slack-ass student would perk up...

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 27 April 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

I had a Vietnam vet for U.S. History in college that cried multiple times during his own lectures.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 27 April 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

i liked history enough to major in it

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 27 April 2006 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

It's considered boring because you have to learn about events that you may not think interesting at that stage of your life, from a point of view you might not care about or agree with. I did history in school and in college and never really engaged with it until my mid-thirties, when I suddenly became hooked on it.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Loved it when I was young, loved it now.

But maybe that's the fault of having really good teachers who actually made it interesting and engaging when I was young.

Henrietta Leavitt and the Cepheid Variables (kate), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

who considers it a boring subject? COMPUTER GUYS no doubt.

25 yr old undercover cop (Enrique), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Does this difficult introduction to history, tho, translate to a national culture that has no sense of history? Gore Vidal's "United States of Amnesia" to thread.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm of the Plutarchian school of history. I don't think it should be relied on as the detailed explanantion for everything being as it is, but rather I find it to be instructive as a noble branch of literature and a particularly full description of humanity.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 27 April 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

LARRY GONICK

gff, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

just picked up "cartoon history of the modern world part 1" and it has reconfirmed his genius in mine eyes. not that it needed reconfirming!!

gff, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Why is history considered a boring subject?

It's so passé, dude.

stevienixed, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

I got cartoon history of the US in my baffroom

El Tomboto, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

It's considered boring because you have to learn about events that you may not think interesting at that stage of your life, from a point of view you might not care about or agree with.

I think this is what it boils down to. Most people have at least some curiosity about why certain things in their life are the way they are, and it would probably be more effective to teach some historical lessons starting from the present and working from there. Much of high school history takes and "and then what happened was" approach, where you're required to memorize what seem like arbitrary facts about events like the War of 1812 and the Louisiana Purchase.

Hurting 2, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

chronology of events vs. narrative of people and ideas

El Tomboto, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

yeah. And I'm not one of those anti-memorization people either; I think dates, basic geography etc. are pretty essential. But I think it takes a rare mind to glean much of an abstract understanding from the procession of events in typical high school textbooks.

Hurting 2, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to know if anthony asks vague open-ended questions as an inkblot test of ILXors.

Rock Hardy, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

the thing i love about the cartoon history books is they square the circle between LARGE SCALE MOVEMENT of ideas stuff and INDIVIDUAL HUMAN MOTIVATIONS stuff, both of which are totally absent from high school this-happened-and-then-this-happened history.

gff, Monday, 27 August 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

i love history for wierd cross currents like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlaam_and_Josaphat

gff, Monday, 27 August 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

I had a Vietnam vet for U.S. History in college that cried multiple times during his own lectures.

"My god... the Louisiana Purchase... what were they thinking???"

The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

srsly, suck it up. Magnum P.I. never cried.

kenan, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, but he had a Ferrari, and a mate with a helicopter. Not a teaching job.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, he actually had it pretty fuckin easy, come to think of it.

kenan, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

seven years pass...

this guy presenting this show about the Normans reminds me a lil of underrated aero iirc, but older

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:42 (eleven years ago)

I like Bartlett, he has a fair modicum of old kool.

xelab, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:57 (eleven years ago)

five years pass...

did we ever get history sorted lads did we

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:21 (five years ago)

its a funny thing tho history i mean its just what ppl say isnt it

sure

any thing could be history

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:21 (five years ago)

its not even what the victors say is it, its just what the people still hanging around and repeating themselves say until the next gang who havent a clue start repeating it themselves and then voila jaysus look, history

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:25 (five years ago)

even when the thing discussed itself is a written record with thousands of participants

its some gig, history writing

is this trolling am i being trolled, youd ask

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:33 (five years ago)

history is a part of yourself you kill, bury, exhume and then denounce, while it is still you

imago, Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:36 (five years ago)

i call it herstory

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:37 (five years ago)

Sometimes things actually happen though

Josefa, Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:42 (five years ago)

hmmm.seems unlikely

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:51 (five years ago)

I liked when Šutruk-Nakhunte sacked Babylon and returned home with the stele of Naram-Sin as an offering to Inshushhinak

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 12 November 2020 03:07 (five years ago)

the bed ain’t made, it’s filled full of hope

brimstead, Thursday, 12 November 2020 03:09 (five years ago)

all of us act like language has value every day of our lives. so, it's disingenuous to act like whatever you say from one day to the next has something approaching meaning and value, but also dismiss history (or herstory) as "just what ppl say". I recommend you remove the "just" and acknowlege that you pay close attention to "what ppl say" in other spheres of life, including yerself as among those "ppl".

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 12 November 2020 04:42 (five years ago)


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