So, apparently my friend has become some kind of idiotic pro-lifer overnight.

And granted...there are other excuses as well...excuses that are possibly acceptable."

anyone this full of themselves, especially as regards something you feel this strongly about and that, when it boils down to it, is *none of his business*, is to be given very serious second thoughts about.

idiot

(xpost - I know, right? As if the anti-choice stuff wasn't enough.)

No! Anyone who refers to women as bitches and whores has a bunch of issues to begin with, never mind the wrongheadedness of his self-righteous abortion rant.

x-post

"You've said a lot of things that I found insulting or hurtful, above and beyond whatever your thoughts on this issue are. Just because you feel strongly about this matter doesn't excuse the way you are talking to me about it and about other women, at all. I don't want to continue this friendship if this is how you're acting, because I think it's demeaning. I hope you take the time to read over what you sent to me and think about it, because I want you to understand how I would feel reading it, and I really don't think I have to go into detail why that is. But if you're not willing to apologize for how you brought this up, and to talk this over without anger and hate, please don't contact me again."

Perhaps too harsh, perhaps too naive, I don't know. But I think it lays it on the line.

i should say, they just want to tell people to stop having sex, preferably in some authorized fashion

"You fucking idiot. When did you become retarded? I can't believe I ever wasted time speaking to you. Here's hoping you suffer severe genital trauma and therefore are rendered incapable of passing your obviously defective genes on to some poor unsuspecting child. XOXO."

Just kidding.

I don't think I'll be saying anything, as it was just posted in his LJ for anyone to see. If he had posted it directly in response to me, things might be different. If he brings it up, I'll tell him what's up, but I'm not gonna. I'm just going to ignore him like the persistent snore in the adjacent bedroom that he is.

racking my brain trying to figure out who, exactly, NEEDS to make this their album title

early front-runners: Terry Riley, S Club, James Brown

Whoa, wait, he's the other guy who lives with you and your boyfriend in the apartment? JEEZ. You're being awfully, um, patient.

xpost - boyz II men.

It was a SIMILE.

*phew!* For a second there...

I would watch a video of that.

In my mind, the monkey is playing a Zorned-out version of "Careless Whisper."

btw rox that is insane wicked awesome

ive told this story before but one time in hs me and a couple friends made parody right to life signs that said "one fetus is equal to ten kittens on the scales of god" and "thats a lot of kittens" and something else and went an befriended the demonstrators outside place in downtown boston - theres footage of it somewhere

I escort at a PP one Saturday a month, and I would pay somebody good money to wear a monkey mask and "play" saxophone at the regular anti-choicers. Also, I <3 roxy's dude. Seriously, there are some days I escort and think that either I or one of the nutjobs is going into traffic, but then either a patient or a passerby will give the nutjob what for and it's like I find the strength to live (and not murder).

I worked at a clinic once that was a few blocks from the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago. Kids got extra credit for picketing us.

"ABORTION IS WRONG
BUT IT GETS ME EXTRA CREDIT"

Yeah, like what would they do for extra credit if abortion was outlawed? An Important Question!

thats some seriously strange coursework

I would watch a video of that.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:33 (Yesterday) Permalink

It was only audio--the protester guy just ignores him so all you hear are footsteps, skwawk squeek skwak, and car horns and people from the street yelling "stop playing!"

Haha

ARRRRRRGGGHHHH what a stupid fucking thing to have to lose a friend over

i'm so upset right now

What, did it come out of nowhere?

yes it did

basically what happened was that i was talking on the phone with someone i've been friends with for several years. for the first 20 minutes or so we were just shooting the shit about life, work, etc. and the conversation was going fine. she then mentioned that she had seen some footage of a partial birth abortion, which greatly upset her. she went on about it in detail about how it made her go from being a fence-sitter on the issue to a pro-lifer basically right then and there.

i was not exactly sure how to respond to that, and i made the mistake of trying to debate her. stupid idea. friendship apparently over.

Argh, that's awful :(

The thing that shits me about prolifers is this constant use of partial birth abortion shots/footage/evidence as if thats how they're all done. My understanding is very VERY few are done that way, because most people get them done within weeks of finding out they're pregnant, not with 2 months to go! Its some ridiculously tiny amount that have late term/partial birth terminations, and I would imagine in most of those cases, for very good reasons (mother's life at risk, etc).

i should probably change my display name

as long as we can all laugh about it

wait i apologize - that was yr name before

i would however just like to point out that there are far worse things in this world than to be a little naive and have enough of a heart to be negatively affected by seeing footage of a partial birth abortion

Uhm, while that might be the case it perhaps misses the point that LB debated the abortion issue as a result which is what blew up the friendship, I think?

Its one thing to be freaked out by such images (and I am quite sure no one thinks the process of aborion is some walk in the park!), another altogether to then dismiss it as evil/something to be banned.

aborion? Gah its late and I can't type, anyway.

the mistake was to have initiated a debate when it was clearly a request for you to go and bone her without a jonny

i saw a knee operation on tv once. it was upsetting and they should be banned.

i saw a birth on television once and i almost vomited. Should be banned imo.

Aren't 'partial birth abortions' illegal now? I thought they were no longer allowed in the third trimester. (In Idaho, you couldn't get one after the 12-week/first trimester mark, and they were required to show you stippled black & white illustrations of what your fetus would look like at time of termination, all what I like to call the 'panda shrimp' stage of a zygote's life.)

lol i never clicked this thread until now, i just want to point out this choice line from the OP:

Now granted...if a woman is raped by her father...that's abortion time...perhaps.

hmmm... perhaps.

Here is an absolutely astonishing police training video from 1966 called Sudden Birth, showing how to deliver a babby if required on the job. It shows an actual birth and god, fluid SPRAYS everywhere. It is also surprisingly quick. It put me off being a policeman.

So one of you ended a friendship over a disagreement over abortion?

x-post Probably shouldn't watch that at work, huh?

Probably not.

The only thing gruesome about it is the truly terrible acting, tho.

erica aren't you of all ppl the sort of person who would be ok watching that at work?

Hahahaha yes if I were working somewhere that I actually want to/am qualified to work. I'm temping atm.

It is a short specifically designed for MST3K to mock but with a live birth in the middle.

best kind imo

a few days ago i got this email from a girl i lived with for like a month last summer. she seemed ok and nice but i actually felt this was pretty..............rude

I hope you are in good health and doing well. On May 16 2009, I will be participating in the Walk for Life & Charged Up for life 5K run. This fundraiser benefits the Community Pregnancy Centers. Please consider donating to this important cause. Use the link at the bottom of this email, and go visit my site. Thank you in advance for your generosity!

like no i will not help your "community pregnancy center"! ugh

:-(

form letter lol

ha i didn't even think about the form letter being rude it's just like, why would you impose this shit on people

"I hope you are in good health and doing well."

For some reason this opener cracks me up.

Abbott regarding partial birth abortion - I could be wrong but I think that yes, the procedure most people envision upon hearing this term is banned in most (if not all) cases. Late term abortions are still performed in many places. The laws regarding that are left up to individual states. I think.

i mean i didn't ask her to donate money to "walk 4 abortions" (though i wish that existed) xp

well actually she would say stuff like that, she's from ghana and talks like that irl

Whoever walks the fastest gets a free abortion at the end. (An interesting race complicated by nausea.)

The guy I used to work with was also telling me about the Amero.

ok i didn't reply to the other email and she just sent a follow-up

On May 16 2009, I will be participating in the Walk for Life & Charged Up for life 5K run. This fundraiser benefits the Community Pregnancy Centers. It is my first 5K and I am very excited about it. Your donation will help the community pregnancy centers and women who need the services they provide.Please consider donating to this important cause.

Some friends of mine mentioned that these community centers appear to be pro-life and since they are pro-choice, they couldn't donate. I respect everyone's view on this issue, and will respect your decision not to donate to this cause. I am both pro-choice and pro-life, and will be willing to explain my views to anyone interested in this discussion. However, I believe this center is still doing good work to help those women who choose to keep their babies, and to provide support and counseling to those who have gone through abortions. The choice is still yours, to donate or not to. But even if you don't donate, do send me a quick note or email if you support my participating in a 5K. :) I need the encouragement to keep on training for it.

????

She supports a woman's right to choose but thinks abortions in and of themselves are wrong and she wants to support resources aimed at helping women who keep their babies.

(IOW, she is afraid of losing friends if she says she is pro-life.)

yeah i guess. it seems like she is assuming pro-choice people can only support people who get abortions and that's why they don't like crisis pregnancy centers! i don't support them because they are creepy and lie to people.

yeah if you haven't had an abortion then you're dead to me