(i) seems to make no effort to get behind why ppl commit such terrible deeds
and
(ii) seems to imply a religious worldview that many people no longer subscribe to
so, do you think regarding ppl as 'evil' is EVER useful or sensible?
― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)
Paint your enemy as 'non human' i.e. 'gooks' etc, you can then get simple souls to go over and kill them w/out remorse.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)
Triple x-post.
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)
Arab terrorist = evil, but Irish terrorist = angry
or
terrorist in some country miles away = evil, butterrorist living in yr own territory = angry
or possibly
terrorist who is a newbie on the killing spree scene = evilterrorist whose being killing ppl for years = angry
― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)
Now obv., this would never ever happen, not only coz its so far from the political systems of our day or any day, with their self-interest of various kinds including economic. And obviously ppl find demonisation a cathartic thing and there would be the whole issue of lack of respect for the deceased and sympathy for their families and friends. But the question is - would it be a safer or a more dangerous world?
― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)
I know it sounds terribly idealistic and naive but being aggressive and retaliating in pretty much the same way you've been attacked, is often seen by those with the grievance as giving legitimacy and validity to their causes (which, of course, may be legitimate and valid to begin with) and their subsequent aggressive campaigns.
So, no, demonising or calling someone evil serves no constructive purpose really.
― penelope_111, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)
i) it detracts from the moral culpability of the perpetrator.
ii) it assumes that people are driven to commit terrible acts of violence through anger at an unjust situation. That's sometimes the case, not always. Someone can have a total disregard for human life without being 'angry'. Atrocities like genocide/mass murder have also been organised by megalomaniacs and unthinking bureacrats, who couldn't be adequately described as 'angry'.
I definitely agree that it's constructive to try to understand why people commit terrorist acts/terrrible deeds, but as well as condemning them, not instead.
― Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 8 May 2004 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)