Who the hell goes to Air Shows?

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A pro wrestling tournament
a NASCAR event
A monster truck show
Dirt bike races

These are just a hunch.

I have.

Not all that different from record collectors really.

Go back and hide under your desks.

Drop a rare Duophonic 7" (or whatever WFMU people would kill for these days) on the ground there and find out

Wouldn't really consider doing it now. Can you imagine the amount of gas it would take to put one of those things on?

Kind of just a promo for the fighting forces, a loss leader if you will.

Boy loves air shows, but then he's really a big geek. He just emailed me some "Laguardia Departure Route Description" pdf today, which is not really as crazy as the fact that I now think it's a perfectly normal thing to receive in email. heh.

heh. then again, i'm the only person here with an aerospace degree.

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At night we went down to the airstrip and played on top of the planes. We managed to get an Apache copter's blades going pretty fast just with some elbow grease, and we held an informal sprinting competition in the light of the moon.,

The second day of the show it rained, so they brought in... MONSTER TRUCKS!

Doesn't that make them... the 3rd best attended?

I'm pretty sure I went to an airshow when I was a kid. However, it could just have been my grandad driving us down to Heathrow.

Seriously though, I really like seeing biplanes.

http://homepage.mac.com/eric.moore/pics/etc/tbird.jpg

This should never be attempted. By anyone.

you know, the only time i hear about rock shows on the news is when there's a riot or some girls get raped. what is really the appeal of them?
the snobbish assumption of this thread is that an event that engages the artistic side of the brain (and arguing that a rock concert falls into this category is anything but inarguable) is somehow bette/more worthwhile than something that (in the eyes of the snob) doesn't.

but what about playing rock music from within a monster truck? surely this is the desired compromise.

alex why don't you just admit that you find air shows boring and that other people do not? would that be some terrible sacrifice for you?

Whatever, people....go enjoy your air shows. May you not be rained on by burning, twisted metal.

Yeah, but that's not the stuff that was alluded to.

Now who is making the sweeping absolutist statement? I don't judge art/performance purely on the basis of its audience, but you must admit that it is stil part of the equation.

why even bother making these kinds of judgements at all?

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Sadly these are but geese:

http://www.f4aviation.co.uk/airshow03/shoreham/geese.jpg

FIGURE-8 SCHOOL BUS RACES

i can be, but i know when to admit that i'm making a personal judgement out of ignorance

-- hstencil (hstenci...), May 3rd, 2004. (later)

Speaking on behalf of Killing Joke and their fans, we'd rather you went to an air show too.

I've read evidence to suggest otherwise, but whatever.

http://www.dvdreview.com/fullreviews/Images/Plan9FromOuterSpace/Plan9FromOuter6.jpg

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/09/17/nevada.plane.crash/

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/09/18/alg_reno_air_show_crash.jpg

might as well have fired a rocket at the box seats

whoops

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/09/18/alg_reno_air_show_crash.jpg

Jesus.

are there air show truthers?

http://www.aviationlawmonitor.com/uploads/image/TimObrien%20(2).jpg

man, i hate air shows. i was at one once (who goes to air shows: teenage schlump in a small town) &, all while wondering why they were tempting fate so much, watched a plane fall into the sea. there was a display thing over my house a couple of weeks ago (just before a pilot died in a similar thing at another event) & i had to leave in case they malfunctioned and crashed at me.

also i know it was re: a mis-coded link but can we just quote-out-of-context moonship's post of:

whoops

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yeah if it wasn't obvious the "whoops" was in reference to the img tags

Some detailed info on elevator flutter, the dynamic forces involved, and previous incidents with race-modified P-51s (Flying magazine link. Comments amazingly non-stupid)

In short... The planes telemetry and onboard camera data were recovered. The plane was pulling a 11g climb so it's probable that the pilot was unconscious. The wobble at the top may have resulted from a power loss due to a fuel interruption - which comes back on full bore after the nose over.

you can tell from the sound in the videos that its going to be bad

Here's the full two hour NTSB final presentation on the Reno crash. Fascinating to watch the whole forensic run-down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMmhOkXQB0s

TL;DR version: no evidence the owner completed FAA-recommended flight testing of all modifications. Trim-tab lock nuts had not been replaced for at least 26 years and the attachment screws showed 80% damage from accumulated metal fatigue.

Second air-show crash in the UK this summer. The first just killed the pilot, this time the pilot escaped but has killed at least seven people, with the death toll expected to rise. Seems to have crashed into road traffic attempting a loop.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-34029764

Easy to say in retrospect but idk if letting people fly planes upside down near busy roads should be allowed.

if it was

obv pilot/mechanical/planning error needs ascertaining but ffs

it would do a disservice to all the brave men and women who died at air shows so that people today can get killed driving near an air show

before u attempt a circular motion like that I'm going to move further away thks

Police have revised the death toll to "up to twenty".

I have a couple of friends who were there and sustained minor injuries. Sounds fucking terrifying.

These (as well as the "inspirational" fly-bys) are the most boomer/faded-glory things ever.

Annual reminder that US Airforce on 9/11 ($800B, $1.3T in 2023) was completely impotent on 9/11.

Also that 1 of 2 Stealth Black Hawks ($40M) crashed during the OBL raid because it landed on... a 12 foot retaining wall.

there is nothing special forces likes doing more than crashing helicopters

Hey it's me with my annual reminder to tell you that air shows are the most "I peaked in high school" boomer shit ever.

What would it take to ban these things forever?

Support The no MAS Project

https://www.veteransforpeace.org/take-action/climatecrisis/no-mas

look I admit I loved Moon Safari in high school and I still do, maybe its lame but I think a total ban is a step too far

fighter jets starting up again of San Francisco Bay

My father was an aircraft mechanic for the air force and he did take us to a couple air shows in the 80’s. I remember it being hot and loud but had fun as a 10 year old.

The UK crash mentioned above lead me to reading about the 1952 Farnborough Airshow crash, which killed 29 people and injured 60:

Following the accident the air display programme continued once the debris was cleared from the runway, with Neville Duke exhibiting the prototype Hawker Hunter and taking it supersonic over the show later that day.[10]

Just had a F-18 or whatever roar over my house in Oakland, I could see it while I was washing lettuce

A thrilling sound, except when you consider what that sounds represents in Gaza, Beirut, or Ukraine

Yeeeeeah I was living near a rural airport/Natl Guard base that hosts an airshow every year, and the Blue Angels or whatever would start flying over a day or two ahead of time, and then constantly during the shows. I never stopped thinking "This is the last sound Iraqi children hear," honestly. That might not even be true given the introduction of drones and how death is dealt to sleeping families and school buses of children in modern times, but I still thought it.

Praise buddha/allah! Bring in the fog~!~