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Are you more likely to be drawn to a thread because you think
"that sounds like an interesting topic"

or

"oh wow, 800 new answers! That's popular; better have a look!"

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

So interesting, he posted it twice.

Pip pip!

yawn, Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:49 (twenty years ago) link

Indeed so.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry Mark, I'm just being snarky. Ignore me.

yawn, Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, interesting topic, definitely. Which is why it mystifies me when people choose vague, useless titles like 'what do you think of this?'. Perhaps they do not want me on their thread, though.

People should pay far more attention to thread titles.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link

I want you on my thread.

the bellefox, Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago) link

haha, carey to "thread".

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago) link

titles are better than answers, usually.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago) link

People should pay more attention to thread titles. I think the fact they don't is due to either lack of imagination or coz they have so much enthusaism for sharing their question with the world that they jump the gun and post it before it has been formlated in the most imaginative way.

I must admit that I never choose a thread coz it is very popular. I won't even look at the Iraq violent soldiers thread - apologies, but I have nothing useful to add...I think it's an outrage and that's that.

In keeping with my general tendency to champion the underdog, I think I may sometimes post to threads coz they've had *so few* new answers.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago) link

It's often googlers who do the "what do you think of this," isn't it? Maybe it isn't and I just don't click on them.

Anyway, title, definitely. Especially if it isn't a Classic/Dud title. If a thread has 800 replies and I haven't read it before, I assume it's about Glasto, arguing, or chatting.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:00 (twenty years ago) link

Definitely titles. If a thread has 800 news answers, that's almost a guarantee that I won't get involved. Unless I happen to see something interested posted while surfing blog view.

Super-Kate (kate), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

Titles. If there are too many answers I feel fatigued before I even open the thread.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

"This is the thread where I say" is possibly my least favourite of the mega populr ones as i just view it as a lazy thread - "this is the thread where you don't have to worry about being on topic coz there isn't a topic", if you like.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:14 (twenty years ago) link

And so we discover that every contribution to a thread damages it by incrementally preventing further contributions or contributors. It's like finding out lifespans are measured in orgasms.

(xpost; yeah, but Mark, that means not creating 100 new threads a week for the same small group of people)

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

A few hundred posts seems like nothing when you're in the thick of it, but when you wake up and find an 800 post thread already in existence, contributing or every reading it seems like arriving at the party after the keg is kicked and everyone else has gone home.

The ideal thread, to me, is about 100 posts.

Super-Kate (kate), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

It's probably only when things have sailed past the 200 post mark in the space of a couple of hours that I really avoid them.

x-post Kate OTM.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago) link

I tend to be prejudiced against threads involving stock phrases such as 'this the the thread where' or, particularly, acronyms of the 'POX' and 'OPO' variety.

I retain a childish fondness for 'Classic or Dud', at least where it is employed to judge things that it is patently preposterous to reduce to a 'classic' or 'dud'. But I don't like it when people just put 'C/D?'.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:31 (twenty years ago) link

Are you always this stuffy or is it just a birthday thing?

penelope_111, Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago) link

Birthday thing!!!

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

topic - ie that sounds strange and/or silly
poster
popularity

Even if it's got 134 new answers, I've only got the last 100 displayed. And it takes too long to read monstorous threads.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 1 May 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

I'm with N. re: the stock phrases - I think it's okay when you're new and trying to make friends but after a while it gets a little too Von Dutch. It might not seem like it but I'm very careful and timid about starting new threads and I try to make the titles as interesting as possible. I try to make the content a little bit unsettling and confrontational in order to discourage any runaway chummy autopilot banter shit that I honestly take great pains to tolerate. That's why I champion guys like jazz - he never posts carelessly even when he knows he could get away with it by now.

LC, Saturday, 1 May 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

I'd like to think that I always give my threads catchy titles. Though that's my schtick; unfounded egotism.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 1 May 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

I'm am draw to less popular threads because I think:

"oh wow, 2 new answers! That's short; I can read it all!"

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 1 May 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

Titles. And threads with more than 300 posts i'm reluctant to open because you can guarantee that by that point

a) someone will have be called a racist
b) the guys will have pretended to be feminists
c) someone will have already made an intelligent, insightful post that answers the question perfectly

[insert good-natured smiley]

don (don), Saturday, 1 May 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

I try to make the content a little bit unsettling and confrontational in order to discourage any runaway chummy autopilot banter shit that I honestly take great pains to tolerate.

See, this is -- and I don't mean offense by it, but there's no way to phrase it too delicately -- why I don't read your threads, or if I do, not for long.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 May 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

Confrontational is good. I often tend to disagree with what ever point someone else makes, not out of the fact that I truly disagree just because I like to look to understand both sides.

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 1 May 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

Confrontational is for what the rest of the internet is for, when you filter the porn out. It isn't something anyone needs to try to be.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 May 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not surprised you don't like my threads, Tep - my steelo tends to turn off the writers-workshop type personalities and I'm by nature a really immature guy that makes his points through attitudinal strength and cruelty rather than seriousness and argumentative rigor (I'm more likely to feel burned by a really sharp, offensive post to me by a troll than a calm, 'nice-sandwich' mother's-reproach kind of thing like you just tried to do). No hard feelings.

LC, Saturday, 1 May 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

Are you gonna take that 'nice sandwich' comment?

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 1 May 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

It's really not reproach, it's just preference: some people like to read one thing, some people like to read another. Interesting conversation is rarely about making or defending points for me.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 May 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

Sometimes thread titles don't look interesting to me, and then I see who's started them, and I become more interested.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 1 May 2004 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

For example: "Is now the time? (romance question)"

Zzzz. Probably a Googler.

Oh wait, it's Amateurist.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 1 May 2004 17:33 (twenty years ago) link

Interesting title and popularity is ok w/me.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 May 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

I'll read through lots of threads, but are prone to actually bother answering the ones with interesting topics. Make me think, and if you're lucky, I'll answer. These days, I'm drawn to the ones about politics and/or thoughts of life, first.

I don't try to be confrontational in my posts, but I certainly won't shy away from clearing up a point about a post, whoever asks.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Saturday, 1 May 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link

I was going to make an impassioned defense of the "This is the thread where I say:" series but decided not to bother with that. If you dislike it now, there's no way I will convince you to lift your veil of distaste, and no amount of "I can't tell you what this thread series has meant to me" discussion will get you to see the value of these threads.

As for the original query, it depends on how much free time I have. If it's late at night and I've got a couple of hours, I love checking in to the lengthy threads and just reading them. However, most of the time I suppose I let the thread titles dictate what it is that I read, even if it means clicking on a thread link because the title of it makes me feel that what's to be discussed therein is going to be completely foreign to me. I'm trying my best to expand my mental horizons and trying to deaden that within me that would be thoroughly shocked by a particular topic of discussion. It's starting to work, I think.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 2 May 2004 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

Ive said this somewhere else but it feels prudent to mention it here too. Quite a few people have complained abt the "chatty" threads, that they are dull or exclusionary or shallow or *whatever*.

But. The "oldskool" ilxors who (it seems) are the ones with problems with this, you all used to have AIM conversations together, right? OFF BOARD. Where a ton of stuff, some perhaps relevant to on-board happenings, got said. Leaving anyone who wasn't in on it confused and not up to speed. Posting half a page long AIM conversations on LOL threads is even more tedious.

At least with a "chatty thread" the info is all there, and you can go over it at leisure if you want to catch up. Sure, I might balk at a 200+ thread myself, but if Ive a quiet Saturday afternoon, I will actually sit and read very long threads if they are of interest all thru (and quite a few can be).

Its this "hit and run because I have a LIFE and no TIME for this rubbish" attitude that sticks in my craw a tiny bit. If you've no time for this online banter why be here at all? Get back to work!

:)

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 2 May 2004 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

(Sorry I realise that was a slight aside to the topic at hand - carry on)

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 2 May 2004 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

I love me some Trayce!

(Ooh, descending into pally chattiness, hmm? The unmitigated gall of me! *snort*)

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 2 May 2004 06:53 (twenty years ago) link

b) the guys will have pretended to be feminists

Oh yeah, all those 'pretend feminists'. There are

. (...), Sunday, 2 May 2004 07:03 (twenty years ago) link

I always kinda like the chatty mutated threads, and wish I hadn't banned myself from ILX at work, but I did, and there's no going back.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 2 May 2004 08:55 (twenty years ago) link

It's the title for me; and if a thread has become really long, I look at it differently - less likely to open it if it's not much my thing than short one of the same title, but the fact of 500 posts says that something might have kicked off in interesting ways, so it might get me looking.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 2 May 2004 09:25 (twenty years ago) link

yeah i tend to look at the threads with very little answers unless the title is interesting. or if i have loads of time to kill to read those crazy motherfucker threads with 983 new answers.

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 2 May 2004 10:16 (twenty years ago) link

Trayce so OTM I'm squealing here.

I like 10-40 new answers, personally. But thread title is far more important than popularity.

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 2 May 2004 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

But. The "oldskool" ilxors who (it seems) are the ones with problems with this, you all used to have AIM conversations together, right? OFF BOARD. Where a ton of stuff, some perhaps relevant to on-board happenings, got said. Leaving anyone who wasn't in on it confused and not up to speed. Posting half a page long AIM conversations on LOL threads is even more tedious.

See, this paragraph gives me the impressiong that you haven't read the rest of ILX in six months. Which is odd, because you have.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:23 (twenty years ago) link

some of the AIM chats are the funniest things ever posted!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:44 (twenty years ago) link

and I say that with a few in mind, none of which I was there for. I can't remember anyone posting one on ILE that wasn't an open and obvious joke.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:45 (twenty years ago) link

Trayce double OTM with pudding!

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 05:22 (twenty years ago) link


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