lonely in the big city

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Maybe I'm the only one this has happened to. Here I am in this city, living here for about five years now, and suddenly I'm noticing that I find myself surrounded with friends or acquaintances who won't meet me halfway. If I don't call them, they're probably not gonna call me. I talk to them, they say "yeah we saw this movie yesterday afternoon it was great" all the while knowing I'm not working and wanted to see that film. And then if I bitch about them not calling, I'm the one who's whining about it. Then I have other friends who sit around and smoke dope all day long and forget about it, if you're not sitting in front of them they won't even remember you exist. I don't take it personally. And I thought that dating would alleviate this melancholy, but the last two women I've met were clingy and quite likely would have accepted a marriage proposal after date #2. Add on to that my lack of employment, which hasn't been from a lack of trying. At my last employer, they were hiring on for several projects that I was interested in, and even though one I had helped steer into existence in the fall, they won't get back to me as far as helping complete it! All of which makes me wonder why this is happening to me. Why my friends are like this, or if this is relatively common. Why my job hunt is fruitless, when I know I'm a hard worker who just goes out and does his job and doesn't complain or spread office gossip or fondle the assistants. And this dating thing is depressing, I'm beginning to wonder where these humorless looking fops wearing corduroy jackets with elbow patches meet these beautiful girls (who are probably not my type anyway, but you know...). It's enough to make me want to pack up and move to another country. Or should I just get a corduroy jacket?

so frustrated, Saturday, 8 May 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's almost like I'm back in London in October 2003.

Barima (Barima), Saturday, 8 May 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

welcome to life.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 8 May 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the only options are to kill yourself or soldier on to piss off those who would like to see you dead.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 8 May 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a corduroy jacket just like that, with the elbow patches and everything, and I got rid of it. I must not have been wearing it correctly, because my life still sucks.

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 8 May 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

You sound very passive. Passive people are boring and not who people look to when deciding who to hang out with. Instead of expecting to get invited for the movie, invite someone yourself. Call your friends and set up things in advance instead of waiting for them to bring you to their events. Throw a party - then people will invite you to their parties. Unless of course your party SUCKED ASS.

I'd bet the same sort of thing applies to your job situation. If you've been unemployed, have you done anything worthwhile with the time? Took classes? Volunteered anywhere? Work a few days a week at a local charity or something and actually get things done and put them on your resume.

DougD, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

This sounds like my life too.

I dunno if I'm passive myself. Submissive, certainly, but I dunno about passive.

caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

DougD OTM. Be more active yet, in social situations, expect everyone around you to be flaky and passive.. you'll then be pleasantly surprised when a few of those people don't turn out to be flaky or passive. This is generally how friends are made in "the big city" as they say.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It's difficult in a way cos people don't respond to you complaining about it so well.

I had a fairly mild case of this a while back since a good friend moved away for the year, and I then realised how many nights out were just myself and him, drinking, or just watching TV or whatever. It became clear that although I considered myself part of a group of friends I didn't see the others as much as I thought.

In the end all I did was just mention it to another friend in our group who I get along with very well, basically that alot of fridays I'd have no idea what was going down or where people were at and it was difficult being the one ringing around all the time, particularly when you could ring 3 people and all would be working or out somewhere else. At the same time the rest of my friends would be out somewhere.

I don't know if he told the others or what but I've not really had the problem since, I mean if your friends aren't ringing you on purpose then that's bad and maybe you need to do an activity or something. But it's more likely they might think you're doing something else, it turns out in my case they figured I was out clubbing or something. Oddly when there was less clubbing to do and I needed them more this happened!

It's best to approach one of your friends on a one to one basis, just say you end up really bored alot of weekends or whatever, approach the friend you're closest to.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe if so many things about your current situation are pissing you off, then it's time for a complete change of scenery. I appreciate that it's a vicious circle because if you're not working at the moment then you probably aren't going to have the funds to be able to move anywhere else, but if you have a little in the way of savings, and a friend in another part of the country or overseas whose couch you could kip on for a few weeks, then maybe now would be a good time to take a break.

I spent several years globetrotting, and arriving somwhere new as a virtual stranger where you have to make the effort to find somewhere to stay, get a job of some sort, carve out a social life etc, it became second nature after a while to instigate and maintain friendships wherever I went rather than be content to stay in the same old rut grumbling about things.

C J (C J), Sunday, 9 May 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

CJ OTM, travelling solo basically forces you to become independant. Several of my friends have travelled through europe with just a eurorail and bartending skills. Also, you return with all kinds of interesting stories etc which is a side benefit.

DougD, Sunday, 9 May 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this happens to everyone who lives in a big city.

Ronan's thing about his best mate who went away strikes a nerve; I had something similar happen. It's sort of like breaking up.

It'll get better, that's all I can say.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 9 May 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

what, does this not happen when you live in a small city/town? At least in a big city you have a choice of places to go.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 9 May 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

There are many things about living in a small town that make this problem less profound/easier to remedy. (I am talking about a town, though... using my current residence of 4sheville NC as a reference) The lack of places to go means you're seeing the same faces again and again which can help precipitate an initial introduction to lots of new people, and then it makes the keeping in touch part almost inevitable.

I also find that small town folx, while no less cliquish, seem to be looking to make new friends. New faces and personalities might compensate for the lack of diversity and excitement the town itself has to offer.

Aaron A., Sunday, 9 May 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I think small towns are much less lonely. I'm living in New York right now and every so often the anonymity really gets to me - all the people you pass on the street who view you only as an obstacle to get around, if that. Perhaps it's just a facade in small towns that people care, like they have to put on airs of being friendly because they know they'll run into you again, but i prefer that in some ways. It always seems like there's more time in small towns so it's not so vital to know someone NOW and gradually you'll get closer to whoever you want without constant scheduling & intensity.

On the other hand, all the good bands are here.

j c (j c), Sunday, 9 May 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

fair enough, I guess I don't have a frame of reference because Asheville is a lot bigger than anywhere I've ever lived! :) I personally love the anonymity of big cities when I visit them; I'll find out if I like a big city when I move to St Louis in a couple months. Also perhaps it makes a difference that I'm pretty antisocial. :/

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 9 May 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty antisocial too, which is probably why I miss just friendly hello's when I pass by! People who are very social I think usually have few problems in the city - it's all just a matter of networking.

j c (j c), Sunday, 9 May 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The worst though is being in an isolated small city where there is absolutely nothing to do, and which is just plain dangerous to live in. There is hardly any employment for young people, a huge drug culture, and little hope of getting out immediately in my current situation. Such is my case. And like in Mr. so frustrated's case, friends grow apart, leaving one in complete desolation, and lacking any kind of solace, so yes, I empathise, and thus find some of the advice given lacking. I, for example, wouldn't necessarily consider myself passive. Yet circumstances can't help one but feel kind of helpless, really. Gotta stick it out for the time being.

Fr4ncis W4tlingt0n (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 9 May 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

well I got myself a new 16 week job today and last night went to some bar after dragging one of my sad-sack cronies out and randomly chatted up a table of people for about 3 hours and exchanged all sorts of numbers. Back in the saddle! :D

less frustrated, Monday, 10 May 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm so glad for you! well done man. It all goes to the good at the sametime.

Nellie (nellskies), Monday, 10 May 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the trick: be happy with your meager existence. youre just coming to terms with how shitty life can be for some. i accepted my shitty lot long ago, and now the problem is pretty much solved. im currently unemployed and pirate music 12 hours a day from my one bedroom pad in the polish part of chicago. future prospects: nill. but atleast if i die in a plane crash i will be happy.

68o578o, Monday, 10 May 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

are you in Forest Park area 68o578o?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

you can catch me at ridgeway avenue by belmont and milwaukee.

68o578o, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

Edinburgh is the loneliest city

Alba, Monday, 1 December 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Is Urban Loneliness a Myth?

a mountain climber who plays an electric guitar (gabbneb), Thursday, 25 December 2008 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

if i'd moved to my city and lived alone, i'd probably wither and die of loneliness! but if you already live there and just move into an apartment by yourself, while having some kind of network of family/friends/co-workers you like/other students you like/church people you like/whatever, is probably a totally different situation.

Maria, Thursday, 25 December 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Lonely.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:03 (fifteen years ago)

aw

seger ros (crüt), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:04 (fifteen years ago)

:(

Janet Privacy Control (corey), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:13 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone want to start a band?

Evan, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:15 (fifteen years ago)

we can call it... lonely dudes with poor social skills.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:20 (fifteen years ago)

Well that wasn't trying very hard.

Evan, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

besides, its kind of implied

/\/K/\/\, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

Ok, sure. And every song we record we'll just awkwardly stop mid song and say "whats the use.." with audible frustrated getting up and walking away from mic noises.

Evan, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:23 (fifteen years ago)

think baout it

buzza, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:01 (fifteen years ago)

this town... is a lonely town

hugz ian

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:03 (fifteen years ago)

this is going to be me, again, in a week, for a year. :-(

dyao, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

what town will you be in, in a week?

cherry blossom, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 09:14 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

hate this...it prob is inevitable some weekends, but I realised that I hang out with the same best friend (plus whoever else we then run into) every weekend. he's away this weekend and i've had such a tedious time, it's really sunny outside and i'd love to be doing something but nobody around, and I'm not in the habit of contacting loads of different people as a result of hanging with that one friend. during the week i socialise with work a lot.

but yeah......this SUCKS. need to do more activities or hobbies, it's severely depressing when you have nobody to hang out with.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)


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