brainy, cultured sensitive younger brother / oaf-ish, easily pleased older brother

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this dynamic has been played out in home improvement and malcolm in the middle. now we have todd and his older brother in coronation street. why is it so popular? are there many real-life brothers with this relationship? what programmes/films have played it out effectively, in your opinion?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

(me and my brother are quite similar, and of similar levels of intelligence etc. so i don't relate to it so much)

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

this dynamic is true in my case (me being....well you guess) - tho the gap IS closer between us then in the examples you describe

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

what programmes/films have played it out effectively, in your opinion?

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_9_2/images/movie-orange-county.jpg

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

You could also add The Wonder Years to this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.shop.edwardmartin.co.uk/acatalog/onlyfoolsandhorses.jpg

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

is it all based on Cain and Abel?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Other way round in our family. Younger bro is the tearaway.

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

And Flight of the Navigator... (xpost a lot)

In fact it's a modernish movie cliche, the older brother who says "Buttbreath" all the time...

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Weird Science to thread!

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely My Family, and sort of Boy Meets World but not really.

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Any resemblence of this dynamic to my family is due solely to me intentionally playing up the stereotype to score parent points.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/owlive/img/sep03/arrested0915_big.jpg

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Igby Goes Down, kinda.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 10 May 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

igby goes down = not at all. older brother was a greater academic success, if memory serves.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 10 May 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Ryan Phillippe playing against type

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 10 May 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

You can be an academic success and still be oafish, no?

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 10 May 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yes you can. the particular dynamic i had in mind was on where the older brother is less brainy (stupid, in fact), though. i didn't specify this in the title though, i only hinted at it, so yr right.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 10 May 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Dubya and Jeb.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 10 May 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Brother of the More Famous Jack = novvel where this is inversed and then reversed

― isadora (isadora), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

In mine family, the dynamic doth be reversed.

Huckle-Buckle, from whence didst thou procure thine picture?

― Ned-Barima (Barima), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't call my older brother oafish, but there was definitely a similar divide growing up. Him = burly, college dropout, prone to aimless career wandering and acting out, big on G 'n' R and Warrant and (ack!) Tesla. Me = Academic, indie-rockin', moody sensitive blah blah blah. But now he's the guy who's settled down happily with a wife, two kids and a house in the 'burbs. Didn't even care about the Tesla reunion when I brought it up recently.

― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned-Barima

Strewth.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

'Sblood.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 10 May 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Dubya and Jeb.

jeb's prob. smarter -- but cultured and sensitive?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

My brother and I mix and match the stereotypes, but the divide exists.

He's not so oafish (just tall and, uh, husky), but my brother is much more into yuppieish/middle-class pursuits and lifestyle - eating at the hot new restaurants, trying to pretend to know something about wine, shopping for knick-knacky things. He's worked for the same company since he was 14, he turns 30 next year. Just bought one of those lame Saturn faux-SUVs.

I'm more artsy but more oafish, my cultural tastes are different, get bored with a job after six months and only stay longer because I'm too lazy to find something else.

But we're both semi-college dropouts, and equally (un)intelligent, cultured in different ways.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Strewth

It's 'Barima_Ned' actually.

― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

jeb's prob. smarter -- but cultured and sensitive?

he's probably read the Bible, as opposed to paying lip service to it. Plus it could be said that perhaps he is "culturally sensitive" or something.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

It's 'Barima_Ned' actually.

That makes a bit more sense, guv'nor.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

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