Do you like overtime?

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@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

in the nba play-offs, yes

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

But do the NBA play-offs pay time and a half?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

y dontcha ask the effing club owners?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

there is something so much more satisfying about having your work solid in your hand.

-- Ask For Samantha (), May 11th, 2004.

must...resist...temptation...

-- The Huckle-Buck (), May 11th, 2004.

Don't resist, Huck. Give in to temptation. Rub your work. Make your work hard, thick, swollen with throbbing arosual.

-- Markelby (), May 11th, 2004.

My work remains flaccid, alas.

-- sgs (), May 11th, 2004.

double overtime!

-- The Huckle-Buck (), May 11th, 2004.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer overpay to overtime.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

mmmm...yes.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

since I don't get paid for overtime: no.

mandee, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved overtime when I've been at hourly jobs. I think work should generally be 10am - 7pm anyway.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you hiring, Spencer?

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate overtime. if i were ever paid for it it would be a different story.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm very much in agreement with Spencer.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't answer this question without seeming uber-whiny.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

But forget overtime. Let's all work 4/40s huh? You know you want to.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the idea of four ten hour days and three days off.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I like overtime.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the shit out of that idea.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought that this thread was going to be about Bush trying to abolish overtime and I got sad. I almost cried real tear(s).

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
This just in, no overtime for most everyone starting now

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM WORKING OVERTIME RIGHT NOW JUST TO SPITE THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION

dean? (deangulberry), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't see this coming, but I guess I quit my job at the right time though. TRA LA LA LA LA LA I quit my effin' job! One of them, anyway.

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Kyle sent me this but I still don't quite "get it".

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Administrative employees who have decision-making power and run some sort of operation are not eligible.

This...kind of sounds like me, but not quite.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, none of that applies except the "administrative" part. I am confused.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm... Well, I am completely dependent on making overtime. If a week goes by when I don't hit the 40 hour plus mark, I'm pretty much screwed financially. Well, I am either way, but, uh, yeah. On the other hand, I'm an hourly employee, not salaried, so I don't think these new laws would affect me, right?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

the americanprogress.com ppl have been banging on abt this for some time. absolutely disgusting, and since we have "business" journalism (and not "working" journalism [or PINKO ALERT "worker" journalism HAHA]) millions are going to get the high hard one and have no clue.

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that's americanprogress.org, sorry

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Without the glamor and the glory of paid overtime, this job would suddenly become a lot less appealing to me.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Now where's my coat?

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

In agenting there's no such thing as overtime. I work a 42.5 hour week in theory, but a 48-50 hour week in practive. It's how it is, I knew that when I joined. And the further up I go, the more unpaid overtime there'll be.

(but I get to hang out with filmstarz0rs)

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

if you are classed as a professional and are paid "salary" rather than "hourly" and you make b/w 25k and 100k a year, you do not get time and a half for overtime, I think.

However, I'm not sure what makes one salaried or hourly. Pretty much every job I've ever had has been "salary," yet I still have an "hourly rate" on my paystubs; however, no-one has ever offered to pay me time and a half anyway.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread should now be titled "Did you like overtime?"

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Rule 6: Employees whose job requires imagination, invention, originality, or artistic or creative endeavors are not eligible for overtime.

"does your job require any kind of thought? Yes? No overtime for you!".

Now I'm not sure if this just applied to time and a half, or any overtime pay AT ALL.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Pretty much every job I've ever had has been "salary," yet I still have an "hourly rate" on my paystubs; however, no-one has ever offered to pay me time and a half anyway.

This is me too. Except I get a special rate for overtime and offsite work.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I work to rule!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get sick or personal leave. Thus, I am hourly. But I don't want to get salaried here instead because, like I said, I rely on my overtime.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess employers could still pay time and a half if they wanted to. although that would be a rare benevolent employer.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

UNCOMPENSATED PRODUCTIVITY = "this economy has turned the corner"

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha - my "hourly" rate on my pay slips is actually the full monthly payment, so if I do an extra three hours I get several thousand pounds! Cancel the weekend, I'm GOING IN.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

what if you're being pressured into attending and / or working (yes, for free) events outside of work? i mean, social events. like, 'you have to go to this or i'll look bad, and i'll even give you a day off if you do it'? according to the government, i'm still non-exempt. what about privacy? i didn't respond to an invitation to a social thing right away because i was waiting for a response from someone else re: a possible scheduling conflict. in the meantime, same person doing the invite e-mailed and said spaces for the event were filled, so i figured i would just go the next time they had this event. then he vaguely threatened people for not responding. i was waiting for an answer, and i didn't want to fill someone's space. honestly, it was a misunderstanding, and the thing was extracurricular and not job-related, and there are vague threats being made. it's not a part of my job to spend extra hours attending social events in people's homes, especially when i have an injured relative. he is trying to turn this into a moral / character issue when it's against the law, according to people i've talked to.

ilxor, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:46 (twenty years ago)

No, I do not like overtime.

- Mandee (still at work)

battlin' green eyeshades (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:54 (twenty years ago)

Overtime sucks. I said in another thread recently that nine times out of ten, I'd rather have extra time than extra money. 40 hours a week is already a lot of fucking hours, people.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 06:27 (twenty years ago)

"fucking hours"

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 06:28 (twenty years ago)

I work a 37.5 hour week so that way OVERTIME STARTS SOONER YAY

identity theftor (deangulberry), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago)


i'm serious - he said, "next time you don't reply i'm going to come and visit you. it's your job." (veiled threat regarding something that has nothing to do with mission of dept and is outside work time) it was an invitation to a party, it involved hours outside of work, and this wasn't the first time. i didn't respond soon enough because i was waiting for a reply from someone else.

this person pressures people to 'volunteer' for events, often using other staff people to do the organizing. in particular, one guy is usually put in charge to round up 'volunteers' and everyone does it so this guy won't get in trouble. people are still reluctant so chief started offering unofficial days off for this 'volunteer' work, which according to my state website is illegal.

also, isn't offering people unofficial days off a potential trap? it's not cleared through hr.

it's all done to make this person look good.

ILxor, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 07:00 (twenty years ago)

I did three consecutive 65-hour weeks recently in order to complete a particular project on time (three weeks was all we had to do it - it wasn't like I'd been slacking or anything) and it was the most miserable period of my working life. Get up, get the bus, be stressed out and borderline-angry for 13 hours, get the bus home, go to bed.

However, I did get paid 1.0x rate for the weekday excess and 1.5x rate for the weekends I worked. Unfortunately, my 'reward' for all this stirling service is to be promoted into a position I didn't really want (all my other options disappeared) where the possibility of doing hours like that on a regular basis is increased (some members of the department I'm moving into are permanently 80-90 hours in credit) and, due to my new-found mid-management status, I won't really get paid for o/t.

As I keeping pointing out to my superiors, my pay rise is completely cancelled out by the everpresent potential for unpaid o/t (if you work 48hr, you get paid for 44hr; if you work 60hr, you get paid for 44hr and get 12 back as time-off-in-lieu). "But not everyone in this position has worked excessive o/t - look at XXX and YYY." "XXX and YYY no longer work here - they resigned due to stress ([thinking] and cos they think senior management are functionally incompetent)."

Marvellous.

Ted Cunterblast, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 07:02 (twenty years ago)


professional employees are often abused this way. a friend was given this treatment, told by her boss that as she was 'professional', she should expect to come in anytime. it was used as a form of abuse, because the boss had other beefs with her.

of course it didn't stop there, we had to leave a restaurant because her boss' boss was eating there.

ILxor, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 07:11 (twenty years ago)

I do a 35 hour week, so I don't mind a little overtime. I get paid time and a half for it, but the half usually ends up with the taxman. Still, it helps when you've got a holiday coming up.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 07:43 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

UNPAID OVERTIME WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'm working around 70-75 hours this week, and I'm going into hour number 12 of today. But strangely, the longer I go today, the more I get really into it. I'm getting more and more work done the longer I go. I'm contemplating going another 4 hours.

Z S, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

if people in their 20s wouldn't be so stupid about overtime they could probably avoid getting completely fucked over by their employers so often

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:42 (seventeen years ago)

that's me telling you to go home, you nincompoop

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:42 (seventeen years ago)

Well, it's not because I have an insane work ethic or anything. It's because I've been procrastinating on this white paper all summer, and now it's due in a few days. Despite getting some compliments this week from bosses and coworkers, if I fuck this thing up, I pretty much fucked up the summer.

Z S, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:47 (seventeen years ago)

oh well then that's only sort of unpaid overtime. work smarter not harder.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:49 (seventeen years ago)

golden time = i'm there

velko, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

At this point, I pretty much have to work as hard and as smartly as I can. I feel good about this paper, though. I only wish that people's eyes wouldn't glaze over as soon as I even mention the topic, but I suppose that's understandable (it's on the comparative costs of electricity from different resources, modeling levelized future costs using different scenarios for fuel prices and CO2 regulations). But instead I'm sure 2.5 people will end up reading it - my boss, some really bored guy at another non-profit, and someone who will read half of it and toss it away.

Z S, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

EDIT: oops, hour 14, not 12.

Z S, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

Working 5-10 hours overtime a week when you have nothing but your job going on can be pretty sweet. It's a significant extra boost of cash that I always welcomed in my bored, lonely days of unskilled labor full-time jobs.

THIS, however, is when I worked for businesses that actually FOLLOWED THE LAW on paying time-and-a-half. I have worked for two small businesses that definitely did not. One of them, when I complained about my 60-hour (graveyard shift!) workweeks getting snubbed on time-and-a-half, she tried to offer me a $250/week salary. Uh, no way. The paychecks I got from them would bounce every once in a while. The other made me argue that I'd even worked at all. I started keeping a journal of everything I did, each hour of the day & we still fought about this. Her checks went through, at least.

I can't much give props to small businesses. I mean, I know there are some good ones out there, but a lot of them are just wicked fucked up.

Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:56 (seventeen years ago)

I'm looking forward to writing back and forth to myself here in about 4 hours.

Z S, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

i have worked on two mansucripts for a total of about 35 minutes work since 12:30 this afternoon. i want to go home.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

I did love it when I was hourly, but I'm salaried now :/

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:29 (seventeen years ago)

no

sleep, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:39 (seventeen years ago)


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