Historical Punishments - Search And Destroy

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Should we bring back the cat? The birch? The stocks? Transportation? Ostracism?

Tom, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, I think everyone's getting along much better today really, thanks.

fritz, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wuv ostracism.

Tom, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but then the cat came back

Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

palanuik in choke suggests the main purpose of the stocks was to allow anyone open ass access, that was the humiliation,no the fruit throwing...I'm up for it!

Geoff, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Transportation has made for the best movie plots and continents.

fritz, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the iron Maiden used to scare me slightly when I read about it, that counts double for the pile of shit band who named themselves after it.

chris, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Surely Dave Q has some opinions here.

Decimation?

Tom, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You'll be the only person they did scare, then Chris.

Tom, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ducking should have a comeback. It really doesn't sound like much of a punishment to me* (except on a cold day, maybe).

*unless you're a witch, where it became more of a consideration

Mark C, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I read that "stoning" in the bible really involved pushing someone off a high place and if they survived after hitting the ground, only THEN were they stoned.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"DUCK THE WITCH!!" doesn't have quite the same ring, though.

Tom, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thumbscrews. Thumbscrews followed by a healthy bit of branding.

Oh, alright then. I think a system should be set up in which the wrongdoer is randomly sentenced (via a flashing wheel of fortune device) to ostracism or incarceration. The costs of the latter would be offset by the profits from the gambling which could take place on the outcome.

Tim, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The main problem with globalisation is that there is nowhere to ostracise people too. This is why moonbase research is U & K.

Actually the great thing about ostracism as I recall was that two names went forward for the ostracism-vote, the nominated and the nominator. So if you tried to get your enemy ostracised you could end up getting the boot yourself.

Tom, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom, wasn't decimation where one tenth of a legion were killed for performing poorly in battle? hmmm, this gives me ideas for improving Chesterfield's performance.

I wasn't scared/frightened by Iron Maiden, I was scared that my ears would melt at the badness of it.

chris, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Scarlet letters. Although today, they'd probably be like phone-box cards.

dave q, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They never exile despots anymore. I miss that.

David Raposa, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Punishment through fear. Send a fan of mafia movies a dead animal - any one will do, you can always make up some ancient folk tale explaining how receiving a vole means violent death is just around the corner.

Mark C, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Exile
Drawing & quartering
Hemlock

turner, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the black spot!

mark s, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think decimation is probably one of the most evil things about. And all that stuff about being hung drawn and quartered. Nasty!

james, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The pillory has long overstayed its sabbatical, in my opinion.

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Decimation = Ten legionnaires line up, one is choosen, and then the other nine have to kill him. Well, at least that's the explanation from some history show or another.

james, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the idea of branks.

Melissa W, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They never exile despots anymore.

Sure they do! Europe is littered with guys who used to be monarchs or president-generals of some place or other, just hanging out in their Mediterranean deck chairs and pining for the good old days. I suppose you could call it self-exile, but if you've exiled yourself because folks back home will kill you, the difference isn't that substantial.

House arrest has serious gained in popularity since the mid-20th century. I like that one.

Nitsuh, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Those old punishments were horrible. But there's something thrilling about a "town" making the decision to tar and feather their municipal leader and run him out of town. I like the drama of that stuff. And the informal decision-making. But I realize this essential mechanism was the same used to keep a grip on slavery etc. Hrm.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

House arrest has serious gained in popularity since the mid-20th century. I like that one.

Bizarrely enough, a patron just asked me to confirm he was here at the library because he is in fact under house arrest. God knows what was behind that!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread has made me horny.

Geoff, Friday, 2 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I R not believing we are getting this far without anyone mentioning tar and feathers!

I R also mentioning "retributional" punishments. EG if a man on a ship murders another man, he R being tied to the body and the body is being thrown into ocean.

I R medieval Fatnick, Friday, 2 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
I was about to start another thread on ostracism but I remembered I already had started this one.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't there a punishment under Roman Criminal Law of putting the crim in a sack with a cat (poss. something other than a cat) and a venomous snake? Take THAT!

dwh (dwh), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Keel-hauling! Impractical without a boat though.

robster (robster), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Which is an even nastier punishment when you think about the barnicles.
(I've been told that the barnicles were the *real* point of keelhauling.)

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

cutting off noses was popular with the Byzantines. I think this was something to do with the religious idea that only people with Gnosis could be saved.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

You are going to hell vic.

tigerclawskank, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Aren't there interesting punishments involving molten metal. I'd recommend pulling them out for the holiday season.

tigerclawskank, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

what about that Roman thing having people pulled apart by trees?

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I've heard of lynch mobs that would take their man, tie each arm or leg to a different horse, and then whip the horses to set them galloping in different directions.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

in England they used to cut off the ears of people who annoyed the King.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)


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