Terence Stamp - Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy

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If you're not sure, Terence is the fella from The Limey (Wilson), Adventures of Priscilla (Bernadette/Ralph), Superman (Zod), Bowfinger (the Mindhead guy), The Collector (Freddie) and Poor Cow (Dave). He's also had a ton of smaller roles and has played Rimbaud and Poe. Discuss.

Andy, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Dud. Terrible over actor at the best of times. The Limey is even worse than the Stallone remake of Get Carter for lack of tension. Not to mention the appalling use of cockney slang. Fair enough it might have been the script but when Stamp goes: "Butcher's Hook - Look" my eyes rolled inside my head and wouldn't return for quite some time.

Alright as General Zod in Superman II though.

Pete, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i always get confused about him. who is the old genial guy in bergerac?

gareth, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

One of these days I am going to agree with you about a film, Pete. But not yet. The Limey is utter class! Stamp's performance is eccentric, yes, but utterly rivetting too! (and the conceit of using the footage from Poor Cow is worthy of David Thomson's novel Suspects).

And he single-handedly made Superman II in any way watchable. Plus he's on the cover of 'What Difference Does it Make?'.

CLASSIC!

stevie t, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Terrible over actor at the best of times."

You must be joking, the man's a plank. Still classic though.

Search: Charge of the Light Brigade and Far From the Madding Crowd - anything in the 60s where he appears opposite Julie Christie (including the Kinks' 'Waterloo Sunset')

D*A*V*I*D*M, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Well of course anything with Julie Christie in it is great. I quite like the idea, direction and conceits of the Limey - it was just that Stamp made it pretty much unwatchable for me. The performance is not so much eccentric as bad.

I think we agreed about In The Mood For Love, Stevie.

Pete, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

David Thomson's novel Suspects = brilliant idea boring executed, no?

mark s, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

pretty classic for ralph in priscilla

Geoff, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Absolutely. Priscilla = Classic.

Madchen, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The old guy in Bergerac is Terence Alexander, character name Charlie Hungerford.

chris, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Stevie's on the bread. The bread and honey. The money.

the pinefox, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

What, no mention of the performance as Chancellor Valorum in _Phantom Menace_? Okay, so it was only five lines or so. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The last three films I've seen with Terence Stamp: Kiss the Sky: screamingly bad. Bliss: ditto. Spirits of the Dead (his segment directed by Fellini): WTF?! But, I have to say I kind of enjoy watching him. So classic, in a dud sort of way.

Joe, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Teorema?

tarden, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

terence alexander is classic

gareth, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

...in The Collector especially.

suzy, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

eight months pass...
...and i could drop all of that stock just to BURN YOUR ASS.

ethan, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
SEARCH: Teorema. Teorema is Pasolini's best film. I don't know, Accatone was great too. Anyway, Terence Stamp creeped me out in that film. Just keep this in mind, Teorema would not appeal to 99% of today's movie audience.

bryan, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
Search Bliss, but I have no reason why. That's some kind of film.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 8 August 2003 16:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

He's in that horrible new Ashton Kutcher movie! I feel so sad for him.

Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 8 August 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

What Ashton Kutcher movie?

Stamp does a lot of work in crappy movies, and he's not necessarily good enough to rise above them either. I think he freely admits to working for the money sometimes, much like Michael Caine.

Incidentally, he was cast in Teorema because Pasolini asked an English producer-friend to send him "Your most decadent actor."

I love the end of The Limey, when Soderbergh includes footage from Poor Cow.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 8 August 2003 16:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

he's versatile, that's for sure. I loved The Limey and Superman II, "Zod, not God, rules you now." Still the best moment in any superhero movie, except maybe all the hot X-Chicks and Elektra in Daredevil.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 8 August 2003 16:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

My Boss's Daughter

Terence plays Ashton's boss and is Tara Reid's father. When Ashton and Tara hook, apparently wacky hijinks ensue. Admittedly it hasn't been released yet, but I don't see there is any way this movie could be anything but atrocious.


You know the worst thing about that movie? I heard Ashton Kutcher on tv saying "This movie is exactly like Bringing Up Baby". There are so many things wrong with that sentence I don't even know where to begin.

Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 8 August 2003 16:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tara Reid as Katherine Hepburn is a revolutionary premise.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 8 August 2003 16:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Am I the only one kinda surprised that Ashton Kutcher has even SEEN Bringing Up Baby?

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 8 August 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

...and i read the only direction pasolini gave him was "open your legs a bit more please"

Erik, Saturday, 9 August 2003 11:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Erik, you've got to admit that's what most directors would ideally say to their charges.

Utter class for living at Albany on Piccadilly on the proceeds of his wheat-intolerace-friendly food products empire.

I used to wonder what would happen if Zod met Freddie Mercury for the proverbial duel at dawn.

suzy (suzy), Saturday, 9 August 2003 11:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Man, is he amazing as Zod. (amateurist also otm in re Limey)

s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 9 August 2003 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
"You have the audacity to criticize my film career. DIE AS YOU DESERVE TO!"

http://www.i-mockery.com/generalzod/media/zod-scowl.jpg

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I just found out yesterday that there's a film based on Gurdjieff's Meetings With Remarkable Men, and that Stamp is in it. Has anyone here seen this?

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

He was kind of cool as the blind old sensei in Elektra.

TOMBOT, Monday, 8 August 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the end of The Limey, when Soderbergh includes footage from Poor Cow.

This, and Terence Stamp is H.O.T. I don't really care how bad of an actor he is. He's on fire. Therefore, classic.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I just found out yesterday that there's a film based on Gurdjieff's Meetings With Remarkable Men, and that Stamp is in it. Has anyone here seen this?

Yes! I even have a paperback edition of the book that came out around the same time with Terence Stamp on the cover. It's not the greatest film but it's definitely worth seeing just for a few peak moments. I think it was all shot in Afghanistan and there are some pretty amazing scenes. There's an awesome musical/mystical competition in a big canyon, lots of weird questing around for maps and stuff, crazy hypnotic formation dancing, etc.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Spirits of the Dead (his segment directed by Fellini): WTF?!

This is one of my favorites of Fellini's work. Totally classic. Terence Stamp is great as is the creepy little devil girl who was ripped off for "The Ring" and others.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

He's not a bad actor. Check out "Billy Budd," in which he plays the titular role – an impossible character, since he is a martyr and, essentially, insufferable – with a minimum of fuss.

And fuck the hate. General Zod is a tremendously scary mofo.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

He's very good in The Hit. Everybody's very good in The Hit, him, Tim Roth, John Hurt. A movie that tends to get forgotten. Like by me, on my 1980s film ballot, where it belonged.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, "billy budd" is good - but even moreso for robert ryan's incredibly scary performance as claggart.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

no-one has mentioend 'modesty blaise'! i can't recall if he's any good in it, but the film is awesome fuckin' welles.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Always had broadly liked Stamp but saw him interviewed last night on "Hollywood UK" (so-so documentary about British films in the 60s) and he dented my impression of him badly, in fact came across as a bit of a tosser. Eg mentioned the lyrics to "Waterloo Sunset" as an indicator of how hot he was in the mid-60s but pretended that he had to struggle to recall the name of the band or the song, and misremembered the lyrics (in the line he purported to remember, Terry and Julie crossed over a "bridge".) Of course it would be uber-cool, to be namechecked in one of the great 60s pop singles and be so lacking in ego that you've almost forgotten the details, but this was something he was far too tranparently vain (and not a good enough actor) to pull off.

frankiemachine, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link

According to Ray Davies in Uncut last year, Terry and Julie were not Stamp and Christie.

Destroy: narration on stupid BBC Stalinist historical rewriting exercise Jazz Britannia.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i saw that, frankie otm. stamp is mad vain, but then he was knobbing jean shrimpton, so respec'.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link

pretending not to remember a song which wasn't actually about him in the first place - how ilx is that?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I never felt comfortable with the idea it was Stamp and Christie - why would they meet at Waterloo station every Friday night? Or feel safer over the river? Always imagined a young couple with ordinary working hours going into town on a Friday and meeting at the most mutually convenient station. That's what Davies was interested in -creating vignettes of ordinary London life, not starfucking. It's a much better lyric without the Stamp/Christie associations.

frankiemachine, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i think it's not actually stamp and christie but two young people whom stamp and xtie 'represent' on screen and who in turn kinda sorta aspire to be a bit like. 'swingling london' sort of 'rubbed off' on civilians.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:26 (nineteen years ago) link

AFAIC "Terry" was a cousin of Ray's.

But the song also becomes more powerful when you realise that the song's actually about this sad old (pervy?) voyeur who's got nothing better to do than stare out of his tower block window all day. Lyrically it's also a nice follow-on from "See My Friends" - he's gone across the river but his friends have vanished/moved on ("i don't need no friends" he sings, without quite convincing us) - there's the contrast between his idea of paradise (bereft of life) with that of the people he's watching (who actually do have a life). But Davies doesn't condemn or pity; he just records and observes.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It always makes me think of Larkin's 'High Windows', in a similar mood.

When I see a couple of kids
And guess he's fucking her and she's
Taking pills or wearing a diaphragm,
I know this is paradise

Everyone old has dreamed of all their lives--
Bonds and gestures pushed to one side
Like an outdated combine harvester,
And everyone young going down the long slide

To happiness, endlessly. I wonder if
Anyone looked at me, forty years back,
And thought, That'll be the life;
No God any more, or sweating in the dark

About hell and that, or having to hide
What you think of the priest. He
And his lot will all go down the long slide
Like free bloody birds. And immediately

Rather than words comes the thought of high windows:
The sun-comprehending glass,
And beyond it, the deep blue air, that shows
Nothing, and is nowhere, and is endless.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link

the reason stamp is bitter is he wasn't cast in 'blow up'. or, he nearly was, but then antonioni chose david hemmings, who was far less 'hot'. all of those dudes (xtie, hemmings, stamp -- the hot actors of the mid-sixties) have had more or less wasted careers because of the total collapse of british cinema circa 1970, but maybe it hit stamp hardest. he's a marooned icon.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, N-RQ, I sort of get that reading too, it is elegant & plausible but possibly loads too much meaning onto what seems likelier to be a coincidence of relatively common names (especially if Davies says it wasn't S&C - has he always been consistent on that point, though? because I have a vague recollection not, & in any case I think D is well capable of confirming whatever version of the "truth" he liked best at the time the question was asked).

x posts

frankiemachine, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link

the only film stamp and xtie appeared in together was 'far from the madding crowd', which opened late '67. 'waterloo sunset' came out spring that year, but likely the filming took place after the song's composition. that said, stamp and christie was bigtime 'faces' and because the film was a big prestige 'thing', probably davies was aware of it when he wrote it. it was supposed to cement swinging dorset as a major centre of filmmaking.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
classic unless you're a twunt

bobby bedelia (van dover), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember reading a couple of his autobiographical books about 10 years ago, and thinking that he had quite an interesting visual memory.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 14 January 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

according to the dvd, stamp was first cast for 'fahrenheit 451', this was about 1965. he said, hire julie christie. and they did, but then they decided to have her play two characters, and so he pulled out cos he would have been second-billed.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

Good overview. Also: The Hit finally out in April.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

also Far From the Madding Crowd just out on DVD

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://www.criterionforum.org/caps/thehit00001.jpg

gangsta hug (omar little), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

showed up at the Castro Theater:

http://moviemorlocks.com/2011/05/05/an-evening-with-terence-stamp/

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

did he mention The Hit?

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

god damn. "the hit".

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

as Billy Budd, he just seems to be offering his cheekbones to the camera for awhile, but is actually an affecting victim/angel before it's over.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

classic, if only for that show he did with david bowie.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

why did i have this bookmarked?

jed_, Friday, 26 August 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link

trivia tidbit: his brother is Chris Stamp, the Who's co-manager (with Kit Lambert) from 1964-1972.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 August 2011 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Liking – or not liking – his directors is one of Stamp’s big themes: joining Schlesinger on the naughty step are Ken Loach (“too political”), Joseph Losey (“no sense of humour”) and Pasolini (“didn’t talk to me”). On the plus side, though, are Fellini (“changed my life”), William Wyler (“really bonded with him”) and Burton (“a wonderful movie-maker”). Fraught though his on-set relationships may have been, Stamp says he never let it get to him. “I don’t have to get on with a director. What I’m concerned with is what goes into the camera.”

This, it seems, is something that didn’t extend to his Madding Crowd co-star, Christie, of whom he still speaks fondly and with a certain amount of awe. Their relationship – initiated after Stamp saw her on a magazine cover holding a submachine gun shortly after he’d shot to fame in 1962 with his first film lead, Billy Budd – has become one of the 60s most mythologised (not least because of the Terry-and-Julie namecheck on the Kinks’ Waterloo Sunset).

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/mar/12/terence-stamp-i-was-in-my-prime-but-when-the-60s-ended-i-ended-with-it

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 March 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link

Nice article.

Classic! Love the Fellini film (and him in it) so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaAZX14x-4s

Also appears in Yvan Attal's "My Wife is an Actress" as Charlotte Gainsbourg's co-star crush: good casting.

drash, Friday, 13 March 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link

he's otm about Schlesinger.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 March 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link

Kinda made sense for him to disappear after the roles dried up, like his character in Teorema.

Need to see Modesty Blaise.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 March 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link

otm about Schlesinger
Tend to agree, although still like Billy Liar

Cartesian Dual in the Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link

saw Far From the Madding Crowd maybe ten years ago, it's p good

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 March 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link

How does it compare to The Go-Between?

Cartesian Dual in the Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

not quite *that* good. tho the one time i saw TGB, the print was faded.

Schlesinger isn't in my pantheon or anything, but Day of the Locust and Sunday Bloody Sunday are significant '70s films.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 March 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link

billy liar and darling are both pretty good

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 13 March 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link

Billy Liar now available as ebook from Valancourt Books.

Cartesian Dual in the Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

SBS is accidental goodness.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 March 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

I didn't mind Cold Comfort Farm either.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 March 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

Completely forgot he did that.

Cartesian Dual in the Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link

Love this little BFI interview from a couple of years ago where he answers questions from the gen pub:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXgGCwOOsEY

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 13 March 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link

That was great, tx. Laughed out loud a couple of times, and the smirk at the end of the 'guilty pleasures' questions was good too - I interpret it as him thinking the notion is a load of crock but its not as if Stamp has spent anytime on ilx to be 'educated' on how the notion itself is a load of shit ;-)

Actually saw him talk when I saw the Richard Donner cut of Superman II (my impressions might have been on some other thread) but I loved his notion of film as a band of people who go from town to town (like a theatre company doing Shakespeare, or the circus) who show you something magical and go to the next town and so on. We are wasting our lives in front of the computer really..

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 March 2015 09:59 (nine years ago) link

Good to watch stoned..I like the way he emphasises each questioner's name.

Also lol- 'broke'..Living in the Albany and shopping at Fortnum and Masons...I guess it's all relative and compared to others in the great profession.

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Saturday, 14 March 2015 12:08 (nine years ago) link

2.47 - his expression to illustrate 'this is a growth move' - is a good moment.

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Saturday, 14 March 2015 12:18 (nine years ago) link

on General Zod: "I'll play this role as if I were still in the ashram."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 March 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link

I like the way he emphasises each questioner's name.

that was so cool..

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 March 2015 12:37 (nine years ago) link

I saw him do a Q&A once which I quite enjoyed and is briefly discussed here: The William Wyler Film Poll

Cartesian Dual in the Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 March 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...
two years pass...

NYC retro next month

http://metrograph.com/series/series/145/terence-stamp

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

ok i don't know that

there's a Bluray of Billy Budd on the way

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 03:04 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

Not having seen The Adventures of Priscila... since 1995, I'd forgotten everything about it...including that Guy Pearce and Hugo Weaving are the fellow queens. They're fine, but Stamp is just sensational as a person in transition adjusting to hard knocks.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 June 2024 23:08 (six months ago) link

Seeing this bumped next to the obit thread scared me.

For those who haven't seen, The Limey leaves Prime at the end of the month.

I managed to avoid the Elder Scrolls games for years, but a chap on Youtube called Bacon_ finally persuaded me to pick up Oblivion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK26bXWrOvo

Terence Stamp is in it! He plays the chief baddy, Mankar Camoran, bad wizard and author of the Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes. In the game Camoran's base health is 35, with a bonus scaled to the player's level, which coincidentally is the same as Terence Stamp's actual health in real life. He is largely immune to magic, just like Terence Stamp. And also frost, again just like Terence Stamp.

To be honest he's awful. There's a making of video which reveals that the developers hired a professional studio in London and directed him as he recorded the script and made ARGH and URGH noises. So it wasn't just done over the phone. But I have the impression the developers were more interested in hiring actors for the name value than actually getting a good performance out of them, so Stamp sounds as if he's just reading the script. His role consists of two dialogue sequences and a long monologue where he just reads a script. Something about the planes of oblivion. He maintains that Tamriel is actually just another plane of oblivion, which is of course wrong.

The game has a really eclectic cast. It stars Patrick Stewart as Emperor Tiber Septim, who delivers a bit of dialogue in the beginning of the game and dies. His last line is something like "you must close the games... OF OBLIVION!", which is really hammy. It also has Sean Bean as a monk. He's genuinely good. I respect him even more. He's charismatic and sounds as if he believes all the stuff he says about Akatosh and the Nine Divines etc. Does he die? Does he die? I'm not going to say.

And it has Lynda Carter, who is in lots of games by Bethesda because she was married to Robert Altman! But not the director Robert Altman. She was married to a man called Robert Altman who co-founded Bethesda, a different Robert Altman. I mean, Sean Bean didn't die in Ronin. He doesn't die in everything. One day he will die in real life and his family will be "whatever".

Infamously the game has eight hundred voiced characters but only fifteen voice actors, of whom four - the stars - only voice a single character each. I have no idea why Bethesda bothered to hire Patrick Stewart etc because the publicity for the game barely mentions him, and I wasn't even aware he was in it until I was half-way through the game.

Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 21:44 (six months ago) link


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