Is it really worth it to get a PowerBook over an iBook

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$1,599.00

12.1-inch TFT Display
1024x768 resolution
1.33GHz PowerPC G4
512K L2 cache
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA/100
NVIDIA GeForce FX
Go5200 (64MB DDR)
Full size keyboard
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
FireWire 400
AirPort Extreme built-in
Mini-DVI out

vs
$1,099.00
1GHz PowerPC G4
512K L2 cache @ 1GHz
12-inch TFT Display
1024x768 resolution
256MB DDR266 SDRAM
30GB Ultra ATA drive
Combo Drive
ATI Mobility Radeon 9200
32MB DDR video memory
AirPort Extreme ready

Is the speed increases in RAM and CPU really worth it? I don't need a SuperDrive also.

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the powerbook has a faster system bus as well. However, right now, for general computing, (i.e. not music maqking or video production) it comes down to wether you prefer shiny plastic or not so shiny aluminium.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the ibook is more physically durable, the powerbook has a little more UMPH to it

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

iBooks are so unphysically durable it's not funny. I'm quite careless though but not rude.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

well all laptops are unphysically durable, the ibook is less unphysically durable than the powerbook. whew.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post

Or my iBook is [was :( ].

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Yea, I'm not going to be doing anything *that* cpu intensive other than some occasional compilation of moderately sized programs(actually I build stuff all the time... :/), running big Java progams, maybe some realtime sound mixing stuff and maybe some light graphics stuff.

the powerbook is 4.6 pounds
the ibook is 4.9

I'll probably be hoofing this around by bike so durability, size and weight matter. Hmmm..... cozen, what happeend? Anyone have any links about this?

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and adding Airport extreme to the iBook brings it to $1198

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

iBooks can be tiny. Plus I am in love with the girl who sits upstairs with a tiny one.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

jon:

i'm actually in the same position. choosing between ibook/powerbook for law school in the fall. i'm going with the ibook, because it's $1099 and i will keep my dual g4 desktop at home. not trying to replace that.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ahh, it just feels so flimsy now - there are slight (hairline gaps) between the casing parts, the little rests (plastic small mats, in the four corners of the bottom) come out and leave the bottom uneven, the plastic on the top corners of the lid (which make sure the screen doesn't touch the keyboard) break off easily, and overall it just feels like it could break. The weight doesn't help: giving it a constant feelign that it'll drop to its own suicide. Also my screen starting blinking out and got to the point where it ws making me pretty angry and het-up when I ws trying to write (suzy ws reporting a similar problems with hers.) I've had other problems. Doesn't stay gorgeous for too long either as the resin scuffs up REAL NICE REAL QUICKLY (but that doesn't bother me so much, tbh.)

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

No mac. Yes Gobook.

http://www.itronix.com/products/notebooks/gobookmax.asp

This thing is indestructable...i got to demo one at FOSE last year.

ITs not a Mac though...

― Spinktor, Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

And I haven't really even been lugging it about so much (especially not since I installed Panther and all I get is 20 minutes at full charge.)

Still love it though. : /

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

cozen, what generation iBook was that? Also, Panther messes up battery life wtf? Is there any good solution to get reasonable battery life.
How big/heavy is the AC adapter?

Spinktor, those things look pricey. Also, I ****need**** a UNIX environment.

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

replacement ibook batteries aren't that expensive.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i have an older iBook. i love the machine, but the factory included RAM is really puny, like 128 or some such nonsense. so that would be a consideration, except that the iBook and the powerbook have the same RAM(!)

Also, the harddrive is small on the iBook, only 30GB. That's just not going to cut-it. I ended up buying a 120GB external hard drive. so you might want to consider the advantage of having that extra 30GB on the powerbook.

I love my iBook by the way.

― Debito (Debito), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

They are guaranteed to still work after like 5 drops onto concrete from like 10-feet. And you can load linux on them, of course. Close enough.

But yeah, they are expensive. There is a cheaper version, not as beefy. Water/sand/robot proof.

― Spinktor, Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm wondering about replacing.

I think my iBook is the penultimate generation model but I'm not entirely sure. The AC adaptor isn't that heavy and rolls up nice and neat.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

pb: 50-watt-hour lithium-ion battery (with integrated charge indicator LEDs) providing up to 5 hours of battery life (12-inch models)

vs.

iBook G4 with 12.1-inch display: 50-watt-hour lithium-ion battery provides up to 6 hours of battery life on a single charge (1)

The ability to hook up an external display and use that to extend my desktop on the PB is exciting!

Yea, if I'm going to replace my desktop with this, I think I will need the 60 gigs of space.

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm, with all the upgrades I'd want to the iBook it'd be $1,373.00 (without edu discount). I think I better go for the powerbook.

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

With education discount

powerbook with 512 megz of ram: $1,489.00
ibook decked out: $1,240.00

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

jon, don't order the RAM from apple. get it from crucial.com and you will save money.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 May 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Also my screen starting blinking out and got to the point where it ws making me pretty angry and het-up when I ws trying to write (suzy ws reporting a similar problems with hers.)

Everyone I know with a white iBook has had this problem. A bad connection between the screen and the rest of the machine means it starts blanking at all but a few angles. My flatmate got hers replaced under guarantee. Mine is a 2001 model, though, and developed the problem later. Here's what's wrong with mine:

*Gone through about four power cables. They rip at the slightest tweak.
* Screen only works at one specific angle, even vibrations can make it blank out.
* Several keys don't work: I use a shareware route-around and re-assign function keys.
* The CD drive is completely kaput.
* Battery life is down to about 20 minutes.
* It runs Jaguar pretty slow.
* Only 9 gig hard disk! Everything has to be kept on USB external drive. Firewire external drive I bought in Japan turned out not to work with the iBook!
* Cracks all over the lid: it looks like thawing ice.

I will replace it with a new one. In fact, I went to buy one today, before discovering that Berlin has some obscure bank holiday Thursday thing going.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

cutty, thanx! That is a huge savingz! Wow, I might just end up buying an addtional 512 megz!

Momus, have you heard if people have any of these problems with the Powerbook? Yours is a G3 right?

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh Jon, Jon, you're so fickle, first the big ups on the L1Nu><, then the Windoze CD questions now this! Anyhow, if I recall correctly, the Powerbook is the better choice as well if you want more ports 'n' such, because I think the iBook is pretty light on connectors.

* Battery life is down to about 20 minutes.
That's pretty typical with any notebook battery if it's three years old. My Toshiba battery cakked after about 2 years and a no-name notebook's battery did the same. It's my least favourite thing about notebooks, really.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yea, my 486 laptop is all but useless now because of that!

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus, have you heard if people have any of these problems with the Powerbook? Yours is a G3 right?

It's just the iBook, I think. The 12", specifically. The build quality on the old clamshell iBook was vastly superior. Much more robust. No doubt the Powerbook is better. Yes, mine is a G3. I will be replacing it with a G4 and just hope they've resolved the screen issue. As for the flimsy power cable, they now just give you the option of ordering several when you buy the machine. It must be a nice little earner for them, when new ones are $70 a pop.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure third parties will sell power cables (are you talking about just the cable part and not the whole AC thingee).

What is your reason for getting another iBook rather than the Powerbook. I'm sure there will be more resale value for PBs.

― 24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"Obscure Thursday Bank Holiday thing".

That'll be Ascention day, then.

In a country where they pay church tax, it isn't all that surprising that it's a public holiday.

(x-post with lots of things actually related to the thread topic)

― ___ (___), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure third parties will sell power cables

Oh, yes. But they fail too. Sick of the Apple string-cables, I bought one from Madsonline. It lasted a bit longer, but also frayed just beyond the heavy duty metal plug.

What is your reason for getting another iBook rather than the Powerbook. I'm sure there will be more resale value for PBs.

I never resell. I just work them into the ground then throw them away or use them for a doorstop or a CD player or something. (Literally what my orange clamshell is now doing.)

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The iBook sounds like a major lemon. I think my only hope is the 3 year apple care protection, so they can give me a new one when it shorts out.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I LOVE my Powerbook.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

me too!!

(ps the new g4 ibooks are apparently not lemons)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh my apple dorkery shall never die

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

you still love the iBook though right, momus?

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still not sure what this screen issue is. My power cable has broken twice and the shop has replaced it free each time; my logic board fritzed out several times (I think I'm on my 6th one?) and they keep replacing it -- this was a problem with a certain era of iBook (mine is from Feb 2003). The video chip is on the logic board but I'm not sure that's the problem you're describing.

Jon, the iBook doesn't have an audio IN port, and the dongly things you can get (USB inputs) are annoying. That might or might not matter to you.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah the main reason we got the Powerbook over the iBook is the audio line-in. Handy for recording music and such.

― NA (Nick A.), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Whoa, no audio line in! I'm looking at getting a powerbook. Any truth to the rumors of a price drop on 6/28?

― Jon in R'lyeh (ex machina), Monday, 14 June 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

unlikely to be a price drop, unless they release new product which is unlikely.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

well are they going to do anything to the machines? like spec bump them? (bigger hds?)

― Jon in R'lyeh (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the last spec bump was april 19th this year, so unlikey, but its probably worth waiting anyway.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i've got a $60 USB "dongly thing" for my PB and it's fine, RCAs in and RCAs out

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

of course what i really want is a real 2nd sound card, so i can do music stuff and then use the built-in sound card for headphone cue

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, maybe i can do that already

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracer, yeah I'm going to be getting a usb audio thingy for that reason

― *ROGERING GEAR!'S ROOMIE* (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

jon, check the iMic.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

What I use for djing with audio preview is an audiotrack maya. It doesn't explicitly support mac but OS X core audio picks up all 6 audio outputs no problems.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the iMic just mic-level ins, no? i imagine jon wants line-level. if you want both though, jon, there's some really good roland gear that's rock-solid pro stuff and even has like XLR inputs and shit. and is less than $200. or this Ed palaver.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the iMic supports both

― *ROGERING GEAR!'S ROOMIE* (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

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I am about to order a 14" iBook and a 40GB iPod - EXTRA WHEEEEE!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

we'll be matching andrew, i got a 12" ibook and a 20gb ipod about a month ago. best money i've ever spent.

― gem (trisk), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay!

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

my friends are all heartily sick of me raving about my lovely toys. they are totally functional AND BEAUTIFUL. you won't be sorry.

― gem (trisk), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The new iBooks make the lower end powerbooks look a little poor value. New Powerbooks in January.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 October 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i just don't think i need a powerbook. i only need a laptop for the most basic of computer uses (mail, web, create documents, play mp3s, etc), so an iBook is fine. i'm so glad i waited until this week - i was about to buy everything a couple weeks ago, but then got lazy and didn't do it. anyway, i check the apple UK site this week and the new ibooks are on there, and come bundled with the stuff i was going to have to add before. in other words - a better deal! yay!

i'm still a bit panicked about making THE SWITCH from pc, but i'm sure i'll cope. i hope i have the same happy buzz as gem (although i suspect you are a 'mac type' arleady)

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

no rob, i just made 'the switch' from PC too. it has been tricky learning the new keyboard shortcuts and whathaveyou but i love my ibook. i bought a book called 'the switcher's guide' or some such to help me.

― gem (trisk), Friday, 22 October 2004 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

that is a damn fine idea - i should look into getting some sort of 'mac tips for newbies' book or somesuch too...

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i will have a look at my book when i get home and let you know its name and author, i found it very helpful. also i looked up 'keyboard shortcuts' in help on my new ibook and printed them out, i've learned some new ones that work on my pc at work too! everyone's a winner.

― gem (trisk), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks gem! i can't wait to start raving about my new toys...

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It is called "Macintosh Switcher's Guide" by Robert Standefer, 2004, Wordware Publishing Inc. Good Luck!

― gem (trisk), Saturday, 23 October 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought an iBook because the Powerbook is out of my price range. I just can't justify spending that much on a new laptop. I know I'll still probably feel annoyed in January when the new Powerbooks come out, but I'm glad I'm buying just as the new iBooks have been released - guaranteed maximum tech longevity.

― Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 23 October 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i bought an ibook because i knew it would be totally sufficient for my use - i couldn't justify the extra $$

― gem (trisk), Saturday, 23 October 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

Is anything happening soon with ibooks/powerbooks?

― estela (estela), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

They're so useful, I'm sure things are happening all the time with them!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Not hat I know of, estela. There'll probably be another specs upgrade over the next few months, but if you're considering holding off in lieu of better things on the horizon I'd say just buy one now!

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a bit odd that they weren't updated in January, since it's been nearly a year since the last upgrade. So surely they'll be updated in April (or whenever the next confab is). Check out http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

uhhh dude, they're upgrading powerbook REALLY SOON!!!!

― Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

read 1 mac rumors site; shortages of pbook.

ps - having a pbook is great; i win wang size with my ibook using friend even though he has a 17"

― Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks everyone. I'll probably go ahead and get an ibook if there's going to be no changes with them soon. I can't really justify the extra expense of a powerbook for me even though I'd love to have one.

Sir Potomus, that means you win wang size with me as well!

― estela (estela), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The iBooks are a really good deal right now anyway.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 06:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, is there any reason I shouldn't get an ibook for $950 tomorrow? I'm looking for a good argument against -- otherwise it's basuckly a done deal.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I just ordered a 14" 1.33ghz ibook and I can't wait! Thanks again everyone.

― estela (estela), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Remy there is no good argument against!

― estela (estela), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

so when the hell are the new ibooks going to come out?!?!?!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 15 May 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)

i thought they came out in january

― gem (trisk), Sunday, 15 May 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)

Expect new product announcements at WWDC 15th of next month although some might not be available till later in the summer. Especially iBooks which normally get a refresh for the back to school season.

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 15 May 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)

Actually, iBooks were last updated october last year and are long overdue for a refresh.

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

However the fact that there's very little difference between the iBooks and Powerbooks right now and hasn't been for some time means there has to be a pretty big update to the powerbooks for the iBooks to move on. There's a big problem in that the processor and bus technology in both the PowerBook and iBook is ancient with not a lot to replace it. G% doesn't seem ready for the laptop and Apple don't seem to want to use the very good dual core G4 class Freescale e600 based chips as their bus technology is significantly different from the G5.

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 15 May 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

i need a new laptop by august; should i wait until mid-july to see if a new ibook arrives? or just buy one now?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 15 May 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

i'd wait for a g5 ibook. not that it'll appear soon... but i'd rather wait...

my isync is completely fuxored after installing tiger. bastard. i tried to download it from my mac account (reinstall it) but it doesn't work as the one on there'sthe old one. SIGH

― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Sunday, 15 May 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

I'd wait till mid-july.

G5 iBook is a long long way off, g5 powerbook still doesn't seem that close.

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 15 May 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

p-p-p-powerbook!

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

i'm going to get a laptop in july. no use talking me out of it: i need one by august, and even if superduperbook were to come out on august 30, i'd need one before that.

my cap is about $2,000, so i figured on getting an ibook w/512 MB RAM and an 80 GB HD.

any suggestions to the contrary? should i up the RAM even more? any pressing reason to get a powerbook 15" instead (for about $500 more)?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

i should note that i get the education discount.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

also i have an old walstreet powerbook w/no cd burner, no usb (just the old scsi ports).... any ideas on the cheapest way to get stuff off of the hd from that machine onto a new mac? ( i'm not gonna buy a usb floppy drive or a zip drive just to do this.)

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

The iBook is plenty fast for 90% of what you'll end up using it for, for sure. But when in doubt. just max the RAM. It makes everything run better, especially since OSX alone eats up so much of that memory.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 18 June 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

amateurist the best way (if you have high-speed) is probably to just stuff all your files into a zip or sit file and email/yousendit to yourself!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 18 June 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

but i don't have internet access on my old laptop!! i don't think my dsl is even compatible with OS 9 (O!S!9!)

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 18 June 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

i'm sure you can work it out if you have an ethernet port in your old laptop.

doesn't mac os 9 have a built-in internet connect program?

if not... what kind of "outs" does your computer have? there's no disk drive, no cd burner, no usb... how did you used to get stuff off your computer?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 18 June 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

i have a floppy drive (now broken) and a scsi zip drive.... but i'd need a usb zip drive to get that stuff onto my new laptop. which is not worth buying.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 18 June 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

maybe you could go to a copy shop/computer lab place and borrow/rent one. i'm sure a lot of places that rent computer time by the hour have usb drives, you could probably just get a console for 30 mins and hook the usb zip drive into your superduperbook.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 18 June 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

if you go to a mac dealer/servicer they should be able to tranfer the stuff on to your new for a relatively low cost.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 18 June 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

also i hope the sequal to the powerbook is called the superduperbook.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 18 June 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

http://www.applelinks.com/p5/index.php/more/connecting_two_macs_using_an_ethernet_crossover_cable/

ethernet. crossover. cable. this has instrux for os9. for the new powerbook running OS10 you will obv have to do something slightly different, but this ought to get you most of the way there.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 18 June 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

thanks, i'll check that out!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 19 June 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

I thought mac ethernet adapters didnt need crossovers.

― DAEREST V1CE MAGAZINE!!!!! (ex machina), Sunday, 19 June 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

What do you think of your new iBook, amateurist? Is the screen good/bright enough for normal use?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

samsung x50 is everything that the 15" powerbook should be (work are buying them at the moment, hopefully I get one). High res widescreen, PCIe 16x ATI X600 graphic, 1gig ram, 2Ghz, 533Mhz system bus, plays DVDs without booting into the OS. 2.4kg. This is what Apple Intel laptops have to kick out of the park.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

plays DVDs without booting into the OS

but i never shut my powerbook down anyway, so it's already booted :)

seriously, though: yes, you're right. indeed, by the time we see the apple intel machines, things will have moved on even more. they are going to have to be shit-hot.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

the not booting movie playing is good for plane rides, no cpu hosing the battery.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

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