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In the year of torture and 'evil' Big Brother, this is the real-est of them all. Right?

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't know anything about the new Big Brother - what exactly is evil about this one?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:04 (twenty years ago)

They electrocute the contestants on a bedframe somewhere in the Ukraine.

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:06 (twenty years ago)

No but seriously, what exactly is different about this series?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:10 (twenty years ago)

There aren't enough beds, and the contestants were all blatantly chosen to wind each other up: unbelievably camp gay man + homophobe + queen-hating gay man, etc.

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:14 (twenty years ago)

Enrique, whats this thread about?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I derailed it

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:16 (twenty years ago)

A film called 'Demonlover'. Dir Olivier Assayas, France, 2002. Stars Connie Neilson, Charles Berling, Chloe Sevigny, Gina Gershon. Score by Sonic Youth. About Murder and acquisitions in mangapr0n. I think it's wonderful, but it's not been well-received.

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:19 (twenty years ago)

i thought it fantastic too. has pete seen it?? is it even still on?

it's one of those films (see also: the company) which (almost) make me wonder whether the reviewers were watching the same film as me, in an nme readers' letters kind of way. i didn't think it got all that inexplicable in the second half, which seemed to be everyone's complaint.

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:58 (twenty years ago)

I know! I was like, so when's this going to lose me?

AFAIK it was only on at the ICA, and possibly finished last Thursday, which is when I saw it.

What's 'The Company'?

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:01 (twenty years ago)

it was def only on at the ica, and i have a feeling it's finished. it wasn't on over the weekend, anyway. i hope pete made it in the end.

the company - robert altman ballet film. pete gets it right here:

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2004_05_01_dys_archive.html#108435862687910904

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:06 (twenty years ago)

Demonlover - great film. The first twenty minutes or so captures the odd unreality of modern life, airplanes, airports, cars etc better than any film I've ever seen.
Jonathan Romney wrote a great appreciation of it in Sight & Sound a few months back, it may be online somewhere.

Assayas' new one, "Clean" was also slated at this years Cannes festival. But it stars Maggie Cheung, so how bad can it be?

― David Nolan (David N.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Romney did defend it, but he still reinforced the 'hard to understand' meme. I liked the article, though: I'd be interested to see the i/view w/ Assayas in Cinema Scope in which he argues against nostalgic art cinema and for an engagement w/ 'Fight Club' aesthetics. Ironically the mag, which is based in Canada, is entirely obscure.

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i *really* want to see that interview. i was rather hoping you'd seen it, enrique.

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago)

well, my ex-boss is only an editor with them... alas I don't think it even crops up in London let alone Oxford. It has no web presence far as I know. Maybe the BFI library...

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago)

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