NEW DAVID SEDARIS BOOK!!!!!!!!

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Get excited with me!

Wifey thoughtfully picked it up for me today and I forced myself to take a shit just so I'd have an excuse to sit in silence and start reading. First two essays are hilarious. He should put out a book every two weeks.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 3 June 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

Me read one day! (maybe soon)

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:17 (twenty years ago) link

I saw this in the store today (after suggesting my mother get Naked as plane reading -- she'd never heard of him! didn't they send that memo out to all moms?) and thought, ooo.

Mostly waiting for the audio version, of course.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:35 (twenty years ago) link

So what's the deal with this guy again? He has to rank as the most famous writer-and-other-roles of recent years that I honestly don't think I've ever read or heard directly. Is he some sort of witty sentimentalist?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:38 (twenty years ago) link

You suggested you mother get naked on a plane to Reading!??

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:38 (twenty years ago) link

Witty sentimentalist would be apt if he weren't so cynical! I do love him.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, here's a very important question -- are we talking cynical/savage approaching Bierce levels or not? Because I tend to regard Bierce as the ultimate standard for these sorts of things.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:41 (twenty years ago) link

Bierce as in Ambrose? Similar approach, different style. Sedaris is less smart-assy (but only a little), more bewildered. Less "it figures" than "can you BELIVE this?" if that makes any sense

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

It is Amy from Strangers With Candy brother, that should give you an idea.

svend (svend), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, I'm not sure you'd be into him, but I doubt you'd find him offensive. Still, it's silly that you haven't read "Naked" -- get it out from the library, it's a book you can read during a poop.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, but I've not seen that show, so. However, Roger's take (and yes, Ambrose) is clear enough, will keep it in mind.

it's silly that you haven't read "Naked"

Hey now, this is NEVER the best way to get me to read something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

It's silly because it's effortless to read and omnipresent, not because you are a silly person. I mean, there was a period where there were three copies of "Naked" where I lived -- and it was just me and my (then) boyfriend.

But at the same time, there's no specific reason why you "need" to read him. But I like his stuff, especially when he reads it aloud. There's one particular essay in "Me Talk Pretty One Day" where he's teaching an English class which I think is the one I'd have you read first (but I can't remember the name, can anyone else help me out?).

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 June 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

omnipresent

Yeah, but so's McDonald's. ;-) (More seriously, and to expand on my earlier point, I sorta feel the same as I did when Tep said he distrusted people who didn't at least follow some TV because to not do so would be antisocial -- it just feels like an uncomfortable set of objective standards one is supposed/expected to live up to, less how one approaches 'art' as broadly defined, more some sort of social science standard. I'm sure I'll get around to Sedaris, but all in good time.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

The thread has got this far and the name of the book hasn't popped up yet? That's weird!

Mike Stuchbery, Thursday, 3 June 2004 05:05 (twenty years ago) link

The best is hearing him tell his stories in his own voice. It fits perfectly. "I like guys" and "Six to eight black men" are especially good this way.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 3 June 2004 07:28 (twenty years ago) link

As well as the one about his younger brother, that one has me in stitches every time I hear it, though I've never seen a printed copy of the same essay.

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 3 June 2004 08:04 (twenty years ago) link

the one about the english class! the name is on the tip of my tongue fuck its something to do with rabbits and bells isnt it? now I have to go BUY IT. good. thanks for reminding me of this hilarity

jeskow, Thursday, 3 June 2004 08:12 (twenty years ago) link

The rabbit/bell bit is in the title essay of "me talk pretty one day," the one where he's learning French. But is there one where he's teaching English?

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 3 June 2004 08:26 (twenty years ago) link

the new one has the hilarious story - first published in the New Yorker - about when he and his sibs got locked out of the house by their mom on a snow day...Mr. Raggett, I would be happy to send you "Holidays On Ice" or "Me Talk Pretty...", just to have the soul contentment of knowing that you are chuckling aloud somewhere. You should also read (if you haven't already) "A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll never Do Again" by David Foster Wallace...oh my, am I in ILX world? I suddenly feel like I'm in ILB....

aimurchie, Thursday, 3 June 2004 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

Wallace is one of those guys I sorta prefer to read the very occasional essay by when it's published somewhere in a magazine. But thank you though! There is no need to send me a copy of anything -- I work for a university library, and trust me, when I do want to read something, it's very easy for me to arrange a copy. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:08 (twenty years ago) link

But...but...but... you have to read "A Supposedly Fun Thing.." because it is a collection of his essays - and I do want to hear the sound of your chuckling somewhere in my soul/pathos/universe. OK - back to Iraq!

aimurchie, Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:16 (twenty years ago) link

Well, for the record, it's 'Dress Your Family In Corduroy' or something.

Mike Stuchbery, Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:24 (twenty years ago) link

it took me a little while to warm up to david sedaris. the first few chapters of me talk pretty were okay, but it seemed like the laughs were a little forced. got WAY better though. he's got a gift for storytelling. teaching the english class was awesome - i love when the only control he could assert was closing or opening the door.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, jeez, I forgot about that. If you can get a hold of his reading of "Six To Eight Black Men", that one is completely hysterical.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

The title also has the word Denim in it somewhere.
I am another Sedaris virgin.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

the only person I hate worse is Sarah Vowell.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

I am irrationally biased against collections of short stories/essays, especially if that's all a particular author ever writes.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

A friend gave me a tape of the 'This American Life' episode he was on, he's pretty great. I was musing on how his voice was not what I expected when he broke into the SPOT-ON impersonation of Billie Holiday singing the Oscar Meyer jingle.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

the 'This American Life' episode he was on

He's been on the show many times; I believe NPR actually "broke" him, after he read "The Santaland Diaries" on Morning Edition.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

hstencil: I have some idea of what's not to like about Sarah Vowell, even though I do like her. But what do you find distasteful about Sedaris? He does, of course, appeal to the smug, erudite NPR crowd, but he also makes me giggle quite often.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link

hstencil OTM.

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@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link

It's exactly that, the smugness.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

But hey, James Ellroy is smug, David Thomson is pretty fucking smug. I like them.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

Also, you are smug.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know if James Ellroy or David Thomson have lisps.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

I don't find Sedaris smug so much as I find him sorta the NPR equivalent of decentish stand-up comedy. I'd say that at his worst he's about a step and a half above Will and Grace, humorwise. Which is fine, and funny, and whatever. If he was doing these pieces as Showtime stand-up specials I'm sure I'd think he was terrific.

I think I've already gone on here about his incessant irritating "hahaha I was the gayest kid ever" joke.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

Can I love Sedaris and hate Vowell? When listening, should I have my latest novel by a literary sensation (not quite one who EVERYONE knows about)on my lap as I sip my iced tea/ g&t? Where am I? Is this ILB? I'm melting.....meelttiingg....

aimurchie, Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

Also, you are smug.

Yes, and I like me too.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

I like lisps, btw.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

You bastard, I thought you liked MEEEEE.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

I like everyone, really. Except those people that I started a thread about once.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

Something like 65% of all gay men on Friendster list Sedaris as one of their favorite authors. I mean, shit, it's bad enough that as a gay man my dating pool is already fairly small, but this just adds insult to injury.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

Michael, something like 95% of all straight women on Friendster list Sedaris as one of their favorite authors!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

I think what friendster teaches us, then, is that if ya wanna get any, ya better get on the sedaris train

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

Or like Amelie.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

I begin to have fears.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

hawt 22 year olds with black bobs do not care about your fears! do you like the Postal Service?

I haven't read Sedaris. I don't have anything against him. We have Naked but it's so ubiquitous on the train that I am embarassed to be seen reading it.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 3 June 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

do you like the Postal Service?

That almost sounds like a Gary Numan song. (Which obliquely answers the question in that I'd rather hear him than them.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

Sedaris is okay, but I have never gotten the people who seem to think he is the Funniest! Writer! Evah! I do like lisps though.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 3 June 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

Most of Barrel Fever and Naked are great, but after that I'd say returns diminish, as far as laughs are concerned, with a greater emphasis on the heartwarming or indeed "heartwarming" vignette.

If his mother was half as funny as she appears to have been, she was a comedy genius.

Neil Willett (Neil Willett), Thursday, 3 June 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

I do like lisps though.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 June 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

See, I thought Barrell Fever was a bit forced. In Barrell Fever, he's trying to be a writer, and not particularly doing a great job of it; by Naked he's decided to be a storyteller, and that worked out much better. (Which is the reason -- I suspect -- that Hstence doesn't like him -- he's utterly not a writer.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

no I just hate lisps.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link

El Diablo, I'm one of those people who think he's one of the "Funniest! Writers! Evah!" but then again I also think Jim Goad is the greatest thinker of the past twenty years, so, so much for consistency.

Anyway I agree Barrel Fever is the only non-essential book he's written - but this new one is second only to Naked as his best.

If there was a fan club, I'd join.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:34 (twenty years ago) link

Don't get me wrong -- I think he's funny but I just can't get that worked up about his writing.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, h, so you're a racist?

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

He totally is.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

Let's crucify him for it before he gets a chance to retort.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

GIVE US HSTENCIL! GIVE US HSTENCIL!

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

I liked hearing one of his French stories on NPR. "The second greatest story ever told, Superfly" made me laugh.

I sold my copy of a Sarah Vowell book to a cute boy.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

I went and saw Sedaris do a reading at my campus bookstore today. The crowd was huge; it was probably the most diverse group of white people I've ever seen.

Dan I., Friday, 4 June 2004 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

I've never read anything he's written, I've only heard mp3s and now seen him live.

Dan I., Friday, 4 June 2004 00:39 (twenty years ago) link

Why does every musician or live performer have middle-aged woman groupies who think it's okay to yell stuff at the stage?

Dan I., Friday, 4 June 2004 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

Middle-aged women groupies are the best! Are you kidding me?

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

with their ankle-length pleated skirts, red mary janes with multicolored stripey socks and sweaters with apple designs on them, and they have a ceramic button in the shape of a tiger with rhinestone eyes (or maybe even a brooch!) and their glasses are on a string. You know they have a picture of their cat in their purse!

Dan I., Friday, 4 June 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

what race of people only speaks with a list, and can we genocide them?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago) link

lisp, even.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 02:10 (twenty years ago) link

Lithuanians.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 June 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...

When You Are Engulfed in Flames.

Anyone else reading this? I like it a lot, though it contains some stuff that was previously published elsewhere, which is a little disappointing to come across. (Not disappointing that he republishes stuff, but that it's not new to me.)

Discuss.

Jesse, Thursday, 5 June 2008 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link

buying it as soon as we hit a bookstore.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link

racists love david sedaris

and what, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

We do?

Jesse, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

racists love david sedaris

yeah the grand kleagle recommend it at the last-

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i can't stand this guy though i can't put my finger on why.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

there was something in holidays on ice that really turned me off to him, but now I can't remember what it was. just some streak of meanness or something, a hint that made me think "wow this guy is funny but he's also got a kelsey grammer like dark side to his soul"

akm, Thursday, 5 June 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 June 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Well I love him and hope he keeps on doing his thing.

Jesse, Thursday, 5 June 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw him read in Sydney. Hes a peach.

I like this review:

Keep it coming
David Sedaris's new book is finally out after me waiting, like, a whole month for it. It's about time.
Published 1 day ago by Mary T

sunny successor, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

"out after me"

Aimless, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

that essay about sedaris' alleged embellishments was one of the most clueless things I've ever read

m coleman, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

the new york times pissed on his new book today "from a great height" which is an endorsement of sorts

m coleman, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah--i don't think it really matters if they are totally true or not. it's up to the publisher, right? i just think it's funny that B&N thinks they know better.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Seriously, who the fuck cares.

When I saw him read about a year ago, he made references to the embellishments in his stories. His point was not about his stories, but the conceit was that he was giving full disclosure regarding details such as the color of a car, or the exact wording of a conversation because the current U.S. administration considered all of their lies to be a matter of minor details, so he wanted to lead the way in honesty.

A Million Little Pieces aside (because it was considered so significant a piece of literature with real life consequence), most any "non-fiction" work that purports to give quotes or sequences of events engages in embellishment, synopsis, and other useful and convenient instruments. David Sedaris isn't writing about a lot of life and death matters, and what he does write doesn't begin to test the bounds of credibility. He takes odd events and serves them up in an entertaining and often enlightening way.

Jesse, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

I've really enjoyed the new diaries collection A Carnival of Snackery. I'm on my second reading of it. I've decided that I don't have to like every single personal trait of a writer to appreciate the overall substance of the work. He's a shopaholic, he's kind of superficial, he owns too many homes. But his observations are hilarious nevertheless.

Josefa, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 02:34 (two years ago) link

I was just thinking about him earlier today. In particular the phrase “I don’t care what they do on Mount Olympus!” showed up in my brain and wouldn’t go away.

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 02:50 (two years ago) link

What's that quote from?

Josefa, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 02:53 (two years ago) link

Naked. Although I might be a tiny bit off on the wording.

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 02:55 (two years ago) link

Hm. Well this book covers the suicide of his sister and the decline of his father - who died a few months after the diaries end - not to mention the mental decline of his literary agent, so there's plenty of darkness in it. But he's not an angsty person by nature, so it's an odd juxtaposition.

Josefa, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:03 (two years ago) link

Believe it was something his mother would say to his paternal grandmother.

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:04 (two years ago) link

Hadn’t heard that about his sister, I assume it wasn’t the famous one. I would be willing to read this.

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:05 (two years ago) link

Or maybe I will read Calypso, which I can get from the library. Or even reread Naked, looks like there must have been a sale and I bought an ecopy.

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:11 (two years ago) link

No it was the youngest sister, Tiffany. Two years younger than Amy,

Josefa, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:13 (two years ago) link

Just read about that in the second story in Calypso.

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:37 (two years ago) link


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