― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:26 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise for the sake of noise (electricsound), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:33 (twenty years ago) link
I mean, obviously, that's why it took so long, because they were filtering through a month's worth of text flirting and requests for a pint of milk on the way home.
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:36 (twenty years ago) link
"I fought the law and - the law accepted my explanation and let me go, but not before suggesting that I be careful about where I send such messages in future."
― Matt Thurgood (Matt T), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:38 (twenty years ago) link
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:39 (twenty years ago) link
Doesn't quite have the same ring (tone)...
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:40 (twenty years ago) link
= "I am outnumbered by the yankee imperialist soldiers"
and I can't find the milk! xoxoxoxox"
= "please send more ground-to-air missiles now thx"
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago) link
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link
tinfoil fucking hat already
read the Human Rights Act, UK'ersGCHQ does not have the time or the legal right to observe your communicationsI'd be more bothered if I was Irish and bought a 3G mobile recently
― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:03 (twenty years ago) link
Well, make that tinfoil hats for two, then. Three, counting the person from the Sun who wrote the article, and four for the person at the Register who reprinted it.
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
average daily text message traffic for the UK, two years ago:http://www.mda-mobiledata.org/resource/releases/images/2003December.gif
― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
― C J (C J), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:40 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:40 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:40 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:44 (twenty years ago) link
You're not that important, first of all. A highly trained linguist or computer scientist or engineer working to try and sniff out actual threats, on a government paycheck nonetheless, doesn't frankly have the fucking time to read your piddling stupid paranoia and alert the police when it's maybe possible some total nobody is talking about a prison break involving airplanes with no correlating info whatsoever.
Second of all much as it disgusts you all to believe it there are LAWS such as the 4th amendment and the HRA which expressly prevent the government from intercepting or monitoring the communications of its citizens, and government employees are required to abide by them.
Third of all MarkH should be getting a knock on his door any second now I'd imagine, shouldn't he.
― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link
"That's it, I've had enough of these weak bastards. Send some people round. We'll plant some uranium in his freezer and get him sent down."
"Righto!"
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link
(x-post, clash lyrics = teh sukc)
― 3ch3l0n, fux0rz (Pashmina), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link
The Clash are awesome.
Cheeseboiger!!
― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway, I think we can both agree that, despite the cliche-edness of it, September 11th did "change everything," including law enforcement and intelligence gathering.
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link
"A big boy did it and ran away."
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link
he's gone very quiet. = he's obviously be grabbed by the rozzers.
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago) link
You know what? There are laws about who gets to invade what country and when. There are laws about the treatment of civilians, and military prisoners during said invasions. There are laws about all sorts of things that the US and other governments DISREGARD EVERY SINGLE DAY, so if they can ignore International Law they can ignore whatever law it suits them to ignore. Including the "fourth amendment" which we don't have in this country, by the way, it not being America. You should know this, having actually been here now.
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link
There are laws about all sorts of things that the US and other governments DISREGARD EVERY SINGLE DAY
indeed - but another way of looking at international law is - what's the point of writing laws if you have no police?
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― THIS IS NOT YOUR PARENTS EPCOT CENTER (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:18 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:18 (twenty years ago) link
What is the point of writing laws if the self-proclaimed "police of the world" are totally corrupt and self serving?
Saying "there are laws against that thing!!!" does not negate the fact that people can and still do it.
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link
― FORE (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:20 (twenty years ago) link
― BALLS BUT NO SACK LOL (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:21 (twenty years ago) link
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
xpost The neat thing about those golf balls is that inside they're just regular dish antennae! the covers are there so you can't see where they're pointing and to keep the weather off.
xpost Jon is it possible there are any small images on google?
― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 June 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/mhs/wpc/wpc2.jpghttp://www.cndyorks.gn.apc.org/menwith%201.gifhttp://archiv.greenpeace.de/GP_GRAFIK/PHOTOS/MENWITH.JPGhttp://ayup.co.uk/00/08pic/menwithgolfball.jpg
― BUTTERSCARYFLIES (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
x-post. I'm not insulting anyone. Who am I insulting if I say "there are laws against murder, but people get killed every day!" ?
Laws exist. Not everyone follows them.
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 June 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:31 (twenty years ago) link
STOP USING DEODERANT
― HAPPY CHEMTRAILS (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link
I wrote a piece on Alcoa's development of a $1 BN alumina facility in Trinidad for this week's issue.
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
Aw, man.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
What do chemtrails, water pollution, and toothpaste all have in common. You guessed it. In fact, the exposure to the metal is reaching epidemic proportions. So what's the big deal you might ask. Well, new studies have suggested that aluminum may be the most toxic substance known to man, even more deadly than mercury or plutonium. Aluminum and heavy metals in your brain may also be acting as an antennae to receive mind control suggestions from the government.
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
OK, so finally, proof positive that vegetarianism is caused by an obsessive belief in conspiracies, and not the other way around! Hurrah!
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link
A) You are both the biggest egomaniacs alive to think that anyone besides maybe some crazy ex you had, 3 years ago, is interested in reading your emailsB) YOU ARE BOTH TERRORISTS
I mean, seriously, do you know how much manpower that would actually take anyway? There is absolutely no way in hell that, if the governments of our respective countries were partaking in massive-scale texting/email reading of the citizens, they could keep it secret because it would just require the utilization of far too many people to get the job done. Think of how much effort it takes for major corporations to start putting in email filtering/monitoring programs in place--and that is just for ONE server/domain and ONE company and only, at most, several hundred thousand people, not an entire globe of people...
― Allyzay, Friday, 4 June 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
I also hate to posit this, but I am somewhat baffled that a two-word reference to Echelon can inspire so much bile yet making jokes about your breasts somehow is funny? Please explain that to me, or don't, I don't really care, but I do admit I find it puzzling.
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link
freakin insane! this guy's name wasn't even explicitly written in any of the liner notes... the intell. people would have had to systematically delve and delve hard to find out who this guy was.
which, if any of this is remotely true, there's somebody out there who hangs out and is into fringe music specifically to have all the ins and outs on who's saying what about the government. somebody gets paid to analyze born against lyrics.
weird. paranoid?m.
― msp, Friday, 4 June 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link
THOUGHT CRIMINALS.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Saturday, 5 June 2004 02:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 5 June 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 5 June 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Saturday, 5 June 2004 05:51 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 7 June 2004 05:59 (twenty years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Monday, 7 June 2004 06:51 (twenty years ago) link
I'm sure that's banned under the Geneva Convention.
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― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 7 June 2004 07:20 (twenty years ago) link
Right, and guys hauled off the street *are* apparently worth 'interrogating' at some length in Guantanamo, etc. Why the fuck should the fact that these people are ex-co-workers of yours mean shit-all to anyone else?
― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 7 June 2004 07:49 (twenty years ago) link
"Guys hauled off the street"
― TOMBOT, Monday, 7 June 2004 08:57 (twenty years ago) link
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Sir Stewart Wallace (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 07:26 (twenty years ago) link
DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- A few hours after NBA star Kobe Bryant had sex with a Vail-area hotel worker last summer, the woman exchanged cell phone text messages with a former boyfriend and someone else.What's in those messages could help determine whether the sex was consensual or whether Bryant is guilty of rape as charged. The judge himself said the content may be "highly relevant" to the case.
What's in those messages could help determine whether the sex was consensual or whether Bryant is guilty of rape as charged. The judge himself said the content may be "highly relevant" to the case.
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link