Has anyone in this bitch seen Venus?

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It's making its transit this morning. They keep saying DO NOT LOOK AT THE SUN so what am I supposed to do? The bastard seems to have taken the solar viewing glasses in the divorce.

Should I haul my arse down to Greenwich on my day off? Or should I muck about with a pinhole and all that? Too bad I don't know how to do that "turning the bedroom into a camera obscura" thing that he used to do.

Possibly Kate Again (kate), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It's going to be going on until early afternoon so I have quite some time to get on the 188 and get to Greenwich. I wonder if it will be as social an occasion as the great Eclipse was.

Possibly Kate Again (kate), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought I saw a UFO once, but it's been proven that I only saw the planet Venus.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I tried to make a pinhole camera this morning but it didn't work. Fortunately someone here had binox with filters. One other method is - dig out yr eclipse glasses from '99, or find someone else who kept them.

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw it! I still had my eclipse glasses so I used those. I think it finishes about 11.30-12ish so I will have to sneak out of the office and have another look before then. No one else here seems bothered about watching a small black dot cross the sun...

liz (lizg), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm afraid I looked straight at the sun. Couldn't see anything, though. Perhaps you need those glasses so that you can actually distinguish the dot against the brightness.

Some advice from the bbc's web-site. I can't be arsed with all this, can you?

How dangerous IS looking at the sun? Is it more dangerous today than usual? I'm sure I've looked at the sun lots of times.


METHOD 1: Cut two holes in card for binocular eye-pieces. Push card onto binoculars and fix with tape. Block one lens (with lens cap, for example). Holding binoculars at waist height, angle towards Sun - do not look through them. Move binoculars around until card shadow minimised on viewing surface (piece of white card best). During six-hour transit, move set-up to follow path of Sun across sky, for example by mounting it on tripod or chair.
METHOD 2: Take piece of stiff card and pierce with pin. Hold it up and, looking away from the Sun, adjust angle of card until shadow minimised. Pinhole will project image of Sun into middle of shadowed area. Place another piece of card under shadow and adjust distance to get best picture - more distance gives larger but fainter image. Hole must be clean and as small as possible.
WARNING: Never observe the Sun with the naked eye or telescope, camera or other optical device. Doing so will seriously damage eyesight and may lead to permanent blindness.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my colleagues said that she heard you're more likely to go blind today. Only if you're an idiot who looks directly at the sun, though. (Ian, you're lovely, and almost certainly joking anyway)

I want to watch it on telly.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 08:57 (twenty-one years ago)

the planets are SO in the wrong order! Why can't Jupiter be where Venus is? How cool would that be?!

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm no astrophysicalist but wouldn't having Jupiter in place of Venus have a little bit of an adverse effect on our orbit, climate etc?

Barry, can you get the BBC feed on yr pooter? http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/now1.ram

robster (robster), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

the planets are SO in the wrong order! Why can't Jupiter be where Venus is? How cool would that be?!

I think that might KILL US ALL!!!

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

it might have a bit of an effect gravitationally, but not a massive one. more likely the magnetic field would make for some amazing (and/or difficult to survive) light displays

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I've tried to watch it on TV, but despite promising several shows dedicated to it, it's the same old antiques-resale crap! The only (too brief!) bit I saw was in the weather report on the news. And then it was mostly the halter-topped weather woman who filled the frame most of the time. Poor coverage, I tell you.

But, in honor of the danger of blindness, I am going for an eye test today.

sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

rtsp://rmlivev8e.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/news/now1.rm

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I am watching it on the BBC live feed but frankly it's not quite the same when there's just a big red circle with a slightly smaller black circle on it on your screen, as opposed the real 3D version in the sky right above you.

It looks a bit like a big round belly.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

If Jupiter was where Venus is, it would have crashed into the Sun already and seriously fucked shit up. Bigtime.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Woo! thanks :) I couldn't get Rob's link to work up there. Funny how it looks like they are swaying together.

Archel I think I have the opposite feeling--watching the little picture makes me feel very small when I think about the actual size of what I'm seeing. I like the belly comparison.

sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my colleagues said that she heard you're more likely to go blind today. Only if you're an idiot who looks directly at the sun, though. (Ian, you're lovely, and almost certainly joking anyway)

Bless you Mark but, no, clearly an idiot. That said, I didn't do it for long. I'd imagine its staring at the sun trying to see this, rather than just looking at it quickly that BURNS YOUR EYES OUT. However, I am not a scientist, and if I go blind at any point in my life, I will know why.

I think I will try the pinhole camera thing on my break. Looking at it on a bit of paper is pretty boring though, innit?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear there's some people with a telescope (and safety precautions of course) on the Sussex campus somewhere?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Er xpost that was addressed to Nick obv. as of benefit to nobody else.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

There are crazy physics bastards on all the roof tops, stood like balding gods, their telescopes pointing priapically at the universal catastrophe about to unfold.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Ian, if it's any consolation i had serious eye pain for days after squinting at the eclipse with naked eyes. Sigh.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Universal catastrophe = physics dept falling off roof?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

What time does this happen?

You can see Venus anyway on a clear night, it just looks like a big bright star.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Awwwww geeks taking to the rooftops and actually exposing themselves (not like that!) to sunlight - that's dedication. Which is what you need, apparently.

It's happening RIGHT NOW Matt. For another hour or so, anyway.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

and it won't happen again for 122 years iirc.

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

There must be such a huge temptation up there to grab hold of the biggest fuck-off telescope and stare straight at the sun with it, just to show all the other physics geeks just how nails you are. No?

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The next one will be in 2012. After that, there won't be another one until 2117.

robster (robster), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Astronomically minded person at work has set up a telescope to reflect the image onto a white card. V impressive.

He says it will be over by 12:20 so look soon!

Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

THE SUN HAS GONE!

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

oh it's back. phew

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, after extensive research I can exclusively report that PINHOLE CAMERAS ARE RUBBISH!

I was a bit sceptical about this anyway, but it was even more rubbish than I thought. How are you supposed to see a speck on a 2 cm circle on a bit of card, when you can't see it on a bloody great sun in the sky? Whoever dreamed up that method of observing this was clearly having a LAUGH.

Fuckers.

I didn't see anyone else looking. Perhaps they've all been scared off.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh..

'hole must be clean and as small as possible'.

Clearly, there are mechanics to this which are beyond my ken. Thinking that you can't see anything and making it bigger probably isn't such a good idea after all.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah pinhole cameras have to be really really long to get a decent disk and it's such a tiny dot on the disk to see. The gaps between leaves in trees cast a decent disk on the ground during an eclipse but even they'd be pretty poor for this i reckon.

aw it's right at the edge now.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my god, my thread went on without me while I was at the Inland Revenue.

I saw the sun on TV early this morning, watching the news. It's on the cover of some papers, as well. But the pinhole thing doesn't really work. I ran into some scientific types outside the British Museum trying to look at the sun with a pair of binoculars and a sheet of white paper. Of course it didn't work. Ah well. Hello, Venus. Goodbye, Venus. We'll catch you on the rebound in 8 years.

Possibly Kate Again (kate), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Gone now :(

robster (robster), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

It's 12:24!

I don't think I was in a position to look. But I hope that those who were, or knew how, one way or another, did so - and enjoyed it.

the bluefox, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

You won't catch Venus in 2012 as it'll occult the sun in the middle of the night. That was it.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

You won't catch Venus in 2012 as it'll occult the sun in the middle of the night. That was it.

How was it for you? Is it always over so quickly? I can't believe I waited so long.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I've had success looking at eclipses and such through a piece of exposed film. At least I'll probably go deaf before I go blind.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

This visit to the Observatory is going to bring all of us, or most of us, together in a new way, and it wouldn't be very odd if some of us should become better acquainted than we ever have been. There is a chance for the elective affinities. What tremendous forces they are, if two subjects of them come within range! There lies a bit of iron. All the dynamic agencies of the universe are pledged to hold it just in that position, and there it will lie until it becomes a heap of red-brown rust. But see, I hold a magnet to it,—it looks to you like just such a bit of iron as the other,—and lo! it leaves them all,—the tugging of the mighty earth; of the ghostly moon that walks in white, trailing the snaky waves of the ocean after her; of the awful sun, twice as large a sphere that the whole orbit of the moon would just but girdle,—it leaves the wrestling of all their forces, which are at a dead lock with each other, all fighting for it, and springs straight to the magnet. What a lucky thing for well-conducted persons that the maddening elective affinities don't come into play in full force very often!

I suppose I am making a good deal more of our prospective visit than it deserves. It must be because I have got it into my head that we are bound to have some kind of sentimental outbreak amongst us, and that will give a chance for advances on the part of anybody disposed in that direction. A little change of circumstance often hastens on a movement that has long been in preparation... So with our little party, with any little party of persons who have got used to each other; leave them undisturbed and they might remain in a state of equilibrium forever; but let anything give them a shake or a jar, and the long-striving but hindered affinities come all at once into play and finish the work of a year in five minutes.

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

nine years pass...

RIIIIIIIIIIIP

am0n, Monday, 19 May 2014 15:03 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkjiF7c26mE

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 2 October 2014 03:49 (eleven years ago)

http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Venus_glory_large-550x580.jpg

‘Rainbow’ on Venus Seen for First Time

A rainbow-like optical phenomenon known as a ‘glory’ has been imaged for the first time on another planet. It was seen in the atmosphere of our nearest neighbor, Venus by ESA’s Venus Express orbiter.

Rainbows and glories occur when sunlight shines on cloud droplets. While rainbows arch across the sky, glories appear as circular rings of colored concentric rings centered on a bright core.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 2 October 2014 03:51 (eleven years ago)

http://youtu.be/Lk5TCRQOxcY

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 October 2014 04:04 (eleven years ago)

I remember reading that Venus Express had captured evidence of ongoing volcanism, was that ever scientifically confirmed?

xelab, Thursday, 2 October 2014 06:00 (eleven years ago)

eight months pass...

I remember reading that Venus Express had captured evidence of ongoing volcanism, was that ever scientifically confirmed?

Apparently, yes!

Now, using a near-infrared channel of the spacecraft’s Venus Monitoring Camera (VMC) to map thermal emission from the surface through a transparent spectral window in the planet’s atmosphere, an international team of planetary scientists has spotted localised changes in surface brightness between images taken only a few days apart.

“We have now seen several events where a spot on the surface suddenly gets much hotter, and then cools down again,” says Eugene Shalygin from the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research (MPS) in Germany, and lead author of the paper reporting the results in Geophysical Research Letters this month.

“These four ‘hotspots’ are located in what are known from radar imagery to be tectonic rift zones, but this is the first time we have detected that they are hot and changing in temperature from day to day. It is the most tantalising evidence yet for active volcanism.”

The hotspots are found along the Ganiki Chasma rift zone close to the volcanoes Ozza Mons and Maat Mons. Rift zones are results of fracturing of the surface, which is often associated with upwelling of magma below the crust. This process can bring hot material to the surface, where it may be released through fractures as a lava flow.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:30 (ten years ago)

Time to get that amazing Soviet era Venera program going again, seen enough of Mars!

xelab, Thursday, 18 June 2015 23:24 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

Unbelievably bright this morning. Due SSE

imago, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 06:53 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD_5Tp7W-Gg

imago, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 06:54 (six years ago)

I saw it. Very very bright.

Chequers Plays Pop (snoball), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 18:51 (six years ago)

should just rename itself Moon 2 imo

imago, Friday, 30 November 2018 06:55 (six years ago)

little Mercury hovers faintly nearby as well. planet party imo

imago, Friday, 30 November 2018 07:07 (six years ago)

spotted that thanks to early airport run

old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Friday, 30 November 2018 07:12 (six years ago)


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