ILXORS-tell me about how late pubs/clubs can open in your country?

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IF someone else has said your country, why not tell me another country!! I basically want the sort of description someone who lived there would have, so nothing too technical thank god.

This would be a big help to me, with the "thing" I am writing.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:47 (twenty years ago)

it would be pointless of me to mention my country, right? ;-)

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Liquor laws are provincial in Canada (in more ways than one!), but I think for the most part, bars must stop serving by 2 a.m. Ontario, for a long time closed at 1 a.m., though I think that's recently changed to 2 a.m. Quebec, meanwhile, closes its bars at 3 a.m., which means that you can usually buy the morning paper on your stumble home.

― Huk-L, Friday, 1 October 2004 14:55 (twenty years ago)

You mean, how late pubs/clubs can STAY open? I could be wrong, but I think most pubs in the USA stay open until 2 AM, but some have special licenses that allow them to stay open until 3 or 4 or 5. And dance clubs usually stay open past 2.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago)

But maybe that is just Chicago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I honestly have no idea how late things can open in England and Scotland. I assume the norm of 11pm for English pubs and 12pm in Scottish pubs (earlier on a Sunday and public holiday blah blah) is written somewhere in some statute book, but obivously there are lots of places that can open later. I guess local councils are allowed to let places stay open as late as they want in theory. I mean, you get funny pubs that open at 5am for postmen and stuff, and there are plenty of bars that open till 2.

Clubs, I suppose 2am is the norm, though often it's 3 or 4, and they can get special one off licences to open even later.

It's all so vague, and it's changing soon.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago)

There's a difference between how late they can stay open and how late they can serve alcohol. Dance clubs stay open all night sometimes, but they don't serve alcohol past 2, usually. In Chicago, a 4am liquor license isn't unheard of, but it's hard to obtain. Most of the bars that serve until 4 only do so becaue they've been doing it for many years.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago)

In Japan bars open and close pretty much as they please. I've been out drinking till 4 or 5. I think... difficult to remember.

― Laura E (laurae55), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago)

2am in California for liquor sales but clubs can stay open after. They just can't sell any alcohol.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago)

It's all so vague, and it's changing soon.

Is it? What's going to happen?

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.branson-missouri.com/images/shows/Yakov.jpg
In my cone-tree, the taverns are open for one hour. Unless you know the KGB - then, we can party for TWO hours! .. But you have to sell your boots.

― jakov (Dave225), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago)

tissp - http://www.culture.gov.uk/alcohol_and_entertainment/timetable_reform.htm

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Being at clubs with a bunch of people who are sobering up sucks balls.

― the girl you used to know (luna.c), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)

And not in a good way.

― the girl you used to know (luna.c), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)

It's all the First World War's fault.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Bloody old people.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Bloody Germans

― Didoismus (Dada), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Cheers, Alba. I'll check that out

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago)

Bloody Archdukes.

x-post

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago)

Sorry for suggesting this would be a helpful avenue, Ronan. I was hoping there might be some lawyers or clubowners who could be of use.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago)

VERY bloody Archdukes (xpost)

― Didoismus (Dada), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago)

last call in nyc is usually around 3.45am, with chucking-out time occurring between 4-4.30 depending on how crowded/rowdy the place is.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago)

it's ok Alba, you weren't to know.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Germany is the place to be, things open 24 hours there.

I'm stuck in England though so I'm constantly moaning about closing times - last thing I heard next November is the date for the new licensing laws to come into effect.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)

It's not like it will all change overnight though. The new laws just give local licensing boards or whatever more power to decide things on a case by case basis.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago)

24 HOURS A DAY FOOLS

Orleans Parish is grrreat.

― adam (adam), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago)

well the Us is a patchwork of laws so everwhere is diferent, (boston having horrible ones if i recall right with bars outside Boston proper closing at 1 Am so last call was 12:3))

DC & Philly both had 2 am closing times. Philly has after hour clubs which stayed open till three but that was it. i think someone posted already about the NYC 4 AM closing time.

Addis is no help to you as there is no regulatation on this so with clubs the usual policy is here is closing takes place when the last person leaves which can be anywhere from 4 am to 7 am.

i know its not directly applicable but mebbe cehcek out the legalize dancing site http://www.legalizedancingnyc.com/

― H (Heruy), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago)

24 HOURS A DAY FOOLS

Minus the few hours when their cleaning the streets right?

Nova Scotia has a 2am last call for bars, 3am for larger venues that meet certain requirements. New Brunswick is 2am, PEI I think was 1. Of those provinces vacate is an hour after last call.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Minus the few hours when their cleaning the streets right?

They don't bother cleaning the streets anywhere outside of the French Quarter. It all works out as long one is drunk enough not to care about the filth.

― adam (adam), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:20 (twenty years ago)

my couch stays open 24/7. i don't go out. 1am last call in worcester.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Vancouver had been closing at 2 AM for a while, but under charges of 'no fun city' our new council in 2002 decided to try 4 AM closings for selected pubs(read= no really seedy ones). It was ok, no big deal. The police made a big stink about wanting way more money for the extra two hours, so I think they changed it to 3 AM. It may still be up in the air.

The province as a whole is 2 AM, I believe, but I'm not sure.

― derrick (derrick), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:06 (twenty years ago)

This is useful, maybe, R: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A266942

(Also I had no idea of the origen of the liscensing thing! Awesome)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:51 (twenty years ago)

This is useful, maybe, R: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A266942

(Also I had no idea of the origin of the liscensing thing! Awesome)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:51 (twenty years ago)

arg

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago)

DC & Philly both had 2 am closing times.

In DC until 3am Fridays and Saturdays.

― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago)

"Opening hours for licensed premises, licensed canteens and registered clubs are referred to in the Licensing (Scotland) Act 1976 as ‘the permitted hours’1. The normal permitted hours for public house and refreshment licences are the periods between 11 am and 2.30 pm and 5 pm and 11 pm, except for Sundays when the permitted hours are between 12.30 pm and 2.30 pm and 6.30 pm and 11 pm2. The Sunday hours only apply when a Sunday opening application has been granted3. Hotel, restricted hotel, restaurant and entertainment licences, and seamen’s canteens and registered clubs, have the same hours, save that they are allowed to open on Sundays as of right rather than having to make a special application4. The trading hours of off-sales premises, including parts of public houses and hotels specifically set aside for off-sales, are from 8 am until 10 pm on Monday to Saturday5. Off-sales premises and off-sales parts are not allowed to open at all on Sundays5. The Act makes it quite clear that there is no obligation on a licensee or a registered club to open for the whole period of the permitted hours6."

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 2 October 2004 08:23 (twenty years ago)

subject to difft. types of application (i.e. registered clubs, 'site only' licences, special occassion club emergency apps.)

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 2 October 2004 08:25 (twenty years ago)

So when did Scotland introduce afternoon opening? Was it the same time as England and Wales - which I can remember being in the news when I was small; I think it was in the late 80s.

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 2 October 2004 08:38 (twenty years ago)

From: Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Scotland) Act 1990

SECTION. 45.—

(1) For section 53 of the [1976 c. 66.] Licensing (Scotland) Act 1976 (in this Part of this Act referred to as "the principal Act" ) there shall be substituted the following section—

53. —
(1) Subject to the provisions of this Act, the permitted hours in licensed premises, licensed canteens and registered clubs shall be—

(a) for days other than Sundays, the period between eleven in the morning and eleven in the evening; and

(b) for Sundays, the period between half-past twelve and half-past two in the afternoon and the period between half-past six and eleven in the evening.

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 2 October 2004 09:02 (twenty years ago)

bbbbbut. those misc. prov. acts can be sometimes a consolodation of previous legislation or the statutory emobodiment of previous policy or by-law, so... the 80s might still be correct.

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 2 October 2004 09:03 (twenty years ago)

That's funny, with your legal talk. "The normal permitted hours for public house and refreshment licences are the periods between 11 am and 2.30 pm and 5 pm and 11 pm". I think of midnight at more normal than 11pm in Scotland, but perhaps I am just lucky.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 2 October 2004 10:33 (twenty years ago)

In Finland, pubs and clubs can usually stay open until 2AM. With a special permission, that can be stretched to 3AM or 4AM, but no later. Nearly all pubs and clubs have a 30-minute "clearing people out" phase before they close: for example, if a pub will close at 3AM, at 2.30 the bartender'll give a "light signal" (signalled by turning the lights off and then back on), which means it's time to make the last orders - after that the pub won't serve any alcohol anymore. I don't think this 30-minute "no-alcohol" phase is governed by the law, but it's a very common practice: I've never ever been to a pub that wouldn't follow it (except for illegal ones, and even they usually do the same, because it's quite practical).

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 2 October 2004 10:52 (twenty years ago)

In the Eastern European countries I've been to the laws seem to be more liberal: In Latvia, clubs can stay open 24 hours a day, and, if remember correctly, 4AM isn't the absolute limit in the Czech Republic or Slovakia or Hungary either.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 2 October 2004 10:55 (twenty years ago)

I think in Estonia too pubs can stay open quite late, possibly even 24 hours a day; Tiit can probably provide you with more information on that.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 2 October 2004 10:57 (twenty years ago)

There's no closing hour - meaning they can stay open as they like - except in some cities. All depends on the city: they have the authority to enforce closing hours. But only a few cities enforce this - according to my husband in Mol and Leuven they have to close at around 3 am. There used to be a pub - it might even still exist - that was open 24/7. This is why it baffles us that other countries - esp England - have closing hours but (as a result?) suffer from drunken people causing so much trouble. We have less problems with this.

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 2 October 2004 12:02 (twenty years ago)

In Buenos Aires, most clubs and bars stay open all night, with people arriving at clubs about 2-3am and leaving around 7am.

― Cathy (Cathy), Saturday, 2 October 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago)

It's a twofold problem. Because people only have limited hours to drink in, drinks get consumed very quickly so there is a very high concentration of alchohol in the body by the time every one is kicked out. And almost everybody is kicked out at the same time, meaning the streets get full of pissed up people all trying to get into clubs, get some food, or get a taxi at the same time as each other. And queueing up getting lairy.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Saturday, 2 October 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Nearly all pubs and clubs have a 30-minute "clearing people out" phase before they close: for example, if a pub will close at 3AM, at 2.30 the bartender'll give a "light signal" (signalled by turning the lights off and then back on), which means it's time to make the last orders - after that the pub won't serve any alcohol anymore.

It's called "last call" here in the States. The bartender will cry out LAST CALL! and sometimes even ring a bell or cast-iron triangle. All the patrons will rush to the bar to buy their last drink and settle their tabs. At the closing hour, the bouncer turns on the bright lights from hell and shoos everyone out of the bar.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago)

The pubs in Paisley and Renfrew stay open longer than pubs in Glasgow (till one o'clock on Friday and Saturday, midnight every other day). I don't know why this is.

In Inverness all pubs used to close at 11 on Saturday, a concession to the Wee Frees who don't believe in doing anything at all on a Sunday. I don't know if that's still the case as I never go out in Inverness any more.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 October 2004 09:22 (twenty years ago)

In Stornoway, I'm told, the Wee Frees congregate on the beach on Saturday nights and harangue anyone who is still wandering home after midnight.

― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 3 October 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Can't one just claim to be hanging around to harangue other people?

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago)

Theres at least 1 24 hour club/bar I can think of nearby (Revolver) but I dont know if it serves booze that whole time. Can't see why it wouldnt. Also a 24 hour bottle shop in the same street.

Pubs as a rule seem to close around midnight/1am in Melbourne, but nightclubs vary - many places Ive seen seem to have 1am or 3am licences but then you have places still open at 10 the next morning with bleary eyed ravers staggering out. Ive stayed at a club that was still selling booze at 5 or 6am and left as the sun was up, before.

― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Tryhards stay in at night.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Closing times between 6-8 AM are not uncommon in Tokyo. Then there are the "after-hour" places that pick up soon afterwards. They usually shut their doors at 1 PM.

― harajuku (harajuku), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:21 (twenty years ago)

in perth normal suburban pubs shut at midnight mon-sat and 10pm on sunday. there are some that have special licences that allow them to shut at various other times; in areas where there are shift workers there are a few 24 hour pubs which serve booze 24 hours. and in entertainment areas they would mostly shut around 2am mon-sat and midnight on sunday.

clubs shut at around 5/6am, but i think they are technically licenced to open 24 hours as long as they are providing what they call "cabaret entertainment" which in a club means a dj/band/dance music.

― gem (trisk), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:45 (twenty years ago)

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