COMPUTER GEEK QUESTION: is the SoundBlaster Live 5.1 any good?

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DG, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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DG, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

good for what?

Ed, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well:
1) Is it good for MIDI nonsense?
2) Would it gobble up system resources making my games run slow?

DG, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It shouldn't slow down your games at all, can't see any reason why it would. And the sound quality's ok; obviously I don't know what your current soundcard is, but it's a vast improvement on my motherboard's onboard sound.

In fact, the SB Live should be great for recent games, although it's a bit patchier for running old games in DOS mode as the SB16 emulation is in software and can only be loaded if you use a protected mode memory manager (eg EMM386), which a few games and a lot of oldschool demos (I don't mean playable demos of games; if you don't know any other meaning of "demo" then you probably don't need to worry about this :) won't run with.

HOWEVER, for midi stuff and music, I'm not sure I can recommend it wholeheartedly, because the SB Live doesn't have official ASIO drivers. If you're semi-serious about the music side of things and you want to get inputs into the computer (whether MIDI inputs or line/microphone inputs) and do realtime stuff with them, you should consider getting an ASIO card, as without ASIO you'll have around a half-second lag between playing the keyboard/guitar/whatever and the computer doing anything with it, which pretty much makes it unusable for live realtime stuff. With ASIO, you can get that latency down low enough for it to be almost unnoticeable.

(There are some unofficial SB Live ASIO drivers for Win9x, but I won't recommend them because they trashed my Windows installation and then they didn't work too well once I'd reinstalled, either. Oh, and they were a pain to uninstall and replace with the original drivers again. And they don't work on Windows 2000 or XP.)

So, for games, the SB Live is great. For messing around with music but not doing any realtime stuff with inputs, it's ok. But if you think you want ASIO you should consider the new SB Audigy (which has ASIO in all its flavours, even the cheap Player one without the external digital I/O box thing) or a dedicated music soundcard like the Audiophile, which can also cope with real 96kHz 24-bit stereo recording (I don't think my ears could tell the difference, but maybe yours are better...).

For the record, I have an SB Live, I use it for occasional gameplaying, lots of listening to mp3s, and a bit of music making using Jeskola Buzz and various other packages, I've had no real problems with it (not working with some old DOS demos is a minor annoyance, but then a lot of them expect GUSes anyway, so no real issue), I'm fairly happy with it. I am kind of annoyed at the lack of ASIO, but if I do upgrade I'll wait for Audigies to get cheaper first (they're very new, so still expensive), and I'm not sure I'd use it enough to justify upgrading anyway. If anyone here does a lot of midi stuff (I don't, really), then tell them what exactly you want to do and they'd be more helpful than I am for knowing how much you'd want ASIO.

(I tried not to be longwinded, but I failed. Sorry.)

Rebecca, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My bro said that ASIO isn't a problem, I assume my current SoundBlaster 16 isn't capable of it and has no probs with his MIDI setup.

DG, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My bro said that ASIO isn't a problem

"ASIO R not a problem", surely?

(Unless you have another one)

Graham, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, if you don't want ASIO then the Live should be marvy, I'd say, though I'm not an expert, and you can probably get them cheap second- hand now the Audigy's out and people will be upgrading. (You don't need ASIO for all midi stuff, but if you want to do lag-free live stuff using software as a midi sound module I think you do, but I don't really know much about midi...)

Rebecca, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've got one on order for £28, so I was just checking there isn't anything majorly wrong with it.

DG, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dont worry about it.

MIDI is a wonderful set of standards and anything over 386 shouldnt have to thinkabout it. Heck they havent even started to use pins 4 & 5 yet.

Mr Noodles, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hmm, while there's a geeky soundcard thread around, any UK posters have a Gravis Ultrasound they want to part with really cheap? I figure "really cheap" isn't too much to ask considering how old they are. But then I thought 386DX/486 laptops would be really cheap, and they, uh, are only slightly cheap. But I've stopped having any use for one of those anyway. (Actually I have no real use for a GUS, but hey.)

Rebecca, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ASIO doesn't handle midi, only audio communications between SEquencers, soft synths and the like and the sound card. You can still do this using directX but as rebecca says, with increased audio latency. Midi latency dempend on the x (i've forgotten th name) driver, but should be pretty good on any modern sound card/interface. however if you are going to be playing a soft synth then the combined midi and audio latencies (without an ASIO driver for the audio) may be too much.

Ed, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm so sorry, I've just repeated what rebecca said in one of her later posts. In future I will read the thread more thouroughly. forgive me.

Ed, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

At the moment I R having MIDI keyboard plugged in, and there R no lag whatsoever. Not even when using my logic ES1. (which R having reputation for lagginess)

I R fatnick, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i just got my brand new AARdvark Direct pro 24/96 soundcard in the mail!!! but I won't open it until i finish my urban studies paper.

four inputs!! built in mike preamps software mixer!! breakout box!! ...must resist...

gabe, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
Check out the 'KX project drivers'. Absoultely brilliant and compatible with every version of windows too!!!! Very very very very low latency and full Midi. So now you can use the SB Live player as a reeal musicians too!!! Highly recommended ive had these drivers on my system for a year with not so much as a glitch and recorded an entire studio quality CD on Cubase with them!!!

Mark Little, Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Check out the 'KX project drivers'. Absoultely brilliant and compatible with every version of windows too!!!! Very very very very low latency and full Midi. So now you can use the SB Live player as a reeal musicians too!!! Highly recommended ive had these drivers on my system for a year with not so much as a glitch and recorded an entire studio quality CD on Cubase with them!!!...www.kxproject.com

Mark Little, Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

how many reeal musicians [sic] use soundblaster cards? Fucken shill asshole.

!!!

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)


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