I Love Doonesbury

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VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 July 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The theatre of cruelty! In a comic.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 July 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

VengaDan hysterically OTM. Best comic strip ever.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

um, the series itself. I'm not claiming this specific day's comic (while terrific) is unparalleled in existence.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Doonesbury is good, and used to be great. But Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic strip ever.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

tho today's strip is good, and the latest series(B.D. in the hospital) has been a good storyline

Kingfish of Burma (Kingfish), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

marmaduke gets political too

http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/marmaduke/archive/images/marmaduke2004261470701.gif

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I first learned what an election is, and what political parties are, and why the President isn't President forever, etc., because of questions I asked my parents when I got mad that I didn't understand Doonesbury (this would have been around 1980). I'm always amazed it's stayed strong so long.

The latest storyline has easily been the best in a long time -- he seems to do best now when he has something to focus on.

(To think what a player I would've been if I'd just asked the Apartment 3G questions instead.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I especially appreciate Doonesbury as it resides what is otherwise a funnies wasteland in my local paper.

Here's the joke: Marmaduke is a big dog! Garfield is a lazy cat! Cathy is neurotic and overweight! And the Family Circus doesn't even MAKE jokes.

What happened to comics like Calvin and Hobbes (which i agree is the best ever), The Far Side, and Bloom County? Doonesbury is now one of only a very few that doesn't blow egregiously every single day. Can anyone think of any others?

Laura E (laurae55), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I first read Doonesbury starting in the late seventies myself. I most certainly didn't get all the jokes, but I loved the detail and the writing and the way the characters looked. And unsurprisingly Duke was my fave character and still is -- he's easily the Snoopy equivalent of the strip, the character whose flights of fancy are the escape valve for all sorts of maniacal strangeness.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Boondocks, although I don't like it nearly as much as I did in its first two years. Get Fuzzy is great, but not as much as Calvin and Hobbes.

Is Opus still around? It wasn't carried in any paper I can get here without paying out the ear.

xpost; the reason I wanted to know what Doonesbury was about is because I thought Zonker looked cool :) And it's been weird going back and reading strips that are familiar and realizing there's no way I would have understood them even with explanations.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Late in its run, Bloom County was veering toward being the Mallard Fillmore of the left.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Back when in I was in 3rd grade I would flip through my parents old Doonesbury collections. The only one that made me laugh was about Zonker tanning. Then one day CLICK! I started loving it and all their old books became MINE.

Bloom County/Outland/Opus has not aged well with me.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Duke book with the Duke action figure is unfuckwithable.

I got all of the '70s and '80s Doonesbury collections at used book sales, they were fundamental to any interest in politics on my part. (And probably why I hate Richard Nixon more than anyone born in the '80s has the right to.)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't noticed. Does Doonesbury still publish a Sunday advent calendar each Christmas?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The Duke book with the Duke action figure is unfuckwithable.

That's for goddamn sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Whenever friends of my mom would ask how I knew so much about '70s-'80s politics as a kid I'd just say "uhhh, I'm kind of regurgitating Doonesbury"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

CeCe: I did the same thing. Competitive tanning: whatta concept.

xexxee, Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"Now?"

"YES NOW! INTO YOUR TURN!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"PEYOTE! PEYOTE AND CLAM DIP!"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ford to Zonker at the Tanning/Golf Biathlon:

"Now, Harris, I put my pants on two legs at a time just like any other..."

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to be a vast "Doonesbury" fan. Bought anthologies and shit. Then I seemed to lose interest in it sometime in the early-to-mid 80's (in high school, basically)...which seemed to me the point when Trudeau lost his muse in terms of the strip being compellingly funny and character-driven. I basically stopped reading it in favor of, say, "Bloom County".

Still, Zonker, Mark Slackmeyer and B.D. will forever be dear to me.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I first began to understand the implications of Vietnam because of finding my parent's copies of Doonesbury. "But this war had such promise!"

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know who here knows it aside from Ned, but Opus has been revived on Sundays.

Picard Maneuver (Leee), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It got a bit better than the 80s low. Kinda like how Peanuts did.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 1 July 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"PEYOTE! PEYOTE AND CLAM DIP!"

Roland the reporter: "Oh wow, together?"

Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 1 July 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Did anyone ever play the Doonesbury election game?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 1 July 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope he has a pretext for bringing phred back sometime soon

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 1 July 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that I let go of my grip on Doonesbury sometime around "Ron Headroom" or whatever that was supposed to be. The talking cigarette was a bit much, too.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 1 July 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, the talking ciggie really put me off.

I miss Jimmy Thudpucker.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 July 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I've played the Doonesbury game. I guess it was an election game? You did give people points, or something. Only played it once.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 1 July 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

It's also (I think) the longest-running strip to actually age its characters, which can give it acess to areas most other strips can't go. There was a week (possibly in the 9/11 volume) where Joanie met her 25 year-younger self which was hair-raising.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never liked Mark's Log Cabin Republican partner. He isn't well-written or funny, just someone Doonesbury thought would be a good idea 'cuz he's gay! and a libertarian/conservative!

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

er, Trudeau

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

slate has the 71 john kerry strips back up: http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/kerry_faq.html

(Jon L), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It's also (I think) the longest-running strip to actually age its characters, which can give it acess to areas most other strips can't go

Gasoline Alley holds that record I think -- been running since the twenties or something?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

For Better or For Worse has actually been aging its characters in real time, from the looks of it, for quite some time now. I still remember Michael and Elizabeth when they were tiny little kids.

As far as the new Calvin and Hobbes, it'd probably be somewhere in between Get Fuzzy and Mutts, if it was actually out there right now. Mutts got the humanism, and Get Fuzzy got the nasty streak. I still love Mutts despite its semi-regular ventures into saccharine sentimentality, because McDonnell has a great grounding in all of the classic strips, which is definitely something that gets more of a chance to come out in the design of his Sunday strips. Sometimes I enjoy just looking at the design even more than reading the strip itself.

Doonesbury is still great too, to be on-topic for a second. This story arc has been pretty amazing.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Did anyone get that Doonesbury compilation with the CD-ROM archive of his old strips? Is it worth getting?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

sean otm about 'for better for worse.' that's an underrated strip i think. it's not funny, but it's good.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i like for better for worse a good bit (though the week where the little girl was drowning and the dog died saving her was as ass as a comic strip can get).

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Marmaduke gets randy!
http://www.armchair.mb.ca/~oneiros/junkdrawer/marm.gif

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Boy, I tells ya. That dog sure is big.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

B.D. = Brian Dowling.

jim wentworth (wench), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't get Doonesbury as a kid, either, and it annoyed me. Just couldn't understand it. I have consistently read it throughout the "Bush horror" as I like to call it and have just been awed. Trudeau has managed something that even Berkeley Breathed has so far only sadly tried and failed at: doing a decent comic strip in the midst of all the shit going down.

I'm surprised to hear people talk of Calvin & Hobbes. I used to be crazy about that one, but I don't think the paper here gets it so if it's still going I haven't read it in like 10 years. I remember trying to share my love of it with my dad and he was baffled, but eventually he started to love it.

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

There hasn't been a Calvin & Hobbes in many years, Bill Watterson took the astonishingly cool step of stopping at or near his peak.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh Christ, that's great. Whew. I don't feel out of the loop. That's okay with me, my dad died about 10 years ago anyway.

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloom County/Outland/Opus has not aged well with me.

OTM, though i reread the first book a few months ago and it was still hysterically funny - espec. the one where Opus encounters the Hare Krishna guy.

best comic strip ever = Krazy Kat, closely followed by Peanuts. I think Trudeau and Watterson would both agree with me on that!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 2 July 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/rs/2004/other/Doonesbury_-_RS_954_article_image_200x240.6294681.jpg

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

'His Classmate George Bush'? Did I miss something?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

(I mean, duh Trudeau went to Yale and all that, I just wasn't aware that they attended at the same time -- it wasn't like they actually knew each other, did they?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only ever read Doonesbury sporadically and this thread always reminds me that I want to check out some of the published collections. Any reccomendations of good collections, especially the best from different eras?

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 18 May 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Alex at MIT: still awesome

HI DERE, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

get back from vacation, you lazy Quebecois!

Oilyrags, Friday, 25 April 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

I believe he's taking more than a vacation

gabbneb, Friday, 25 April 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20081121

I'd forgotten how awesome Lacey was.

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Friday, 21 November 2008 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20090120

loooooool

Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:45 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20090212

no massive lolz, but lol nonetheless

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:41 (sixteen years ago)

Is that the first Doonesbury with an actualy gag?

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:30 (sixteen years ago)

arg! Akchewal

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:30 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20090321

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Saturday, 21 March 2009 12:21 (sixteen years ago)

Makes up for two weeks of fucking roland hedley's twitter nonsense.

Prince of Persia (Ed), Saturday, 21 March 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

haha speaking of Roland Hedley's Twitter nonsense:

http://twitter.com/Roland_Hedley

BADGES DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO WALTZ OFF WITH A BABY (HI DERE), Monday, 30 March 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Alex is a grad student according to today's Sunday strip -- when did that happen? Thought she was MIT undergrad?

Ou sont les cankles d'antan? (Leee), Monday, 15 November 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

like 4 years ago!

Mordy, Monday, 15 November 2010 00:22 (fifteen years ago)

The time sure does pass.

Ou sont les cankles d'antan? (Leee), Monday, 15 November 2010 00:26 (fifteen years ago)

AKA I'm getting old. ._.

Ou sont les cankles d'antan? (Leee), Monday, 15 November 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

Wait, Alex is Mike's kid, right? Seriously, I'm still in "They're finally back from their hiatus! Boy, I bet Trudeau's pissed about Bloom County!" mode.

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 November 2010 04:20 (fifteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Buuuuuurn: http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/archive/2011/07/10

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

eight months pass...

Starting Monday: Doonesbury takes on Texas ultrasound law.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

I keep meaning to add Doonesbury to my daily reading but honestly forget it still exists when this thread isn't bumped.

da croupier, Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics.html

I always forget to look at it on Slate. I started reading it again in newsprint on the Washington Post comics page. The W. Post used to feature it, bigger, on a separate page in their Style section, but now its just another comic (again)

curmudgeon, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

Texas's HB-15 isn't hard to explain: The bill says that in order for a woman to obtain a perfectly legal medical procedure, she is first compelled by law to endure a vaginal probe with a hard, plastic 10-inch wand. The World Health Organization defines rape as “physically forced or otherwise coerced penetration — even if slight — of the vulva or anus, using a penis, other body parts or an object.” You tell me the difference.

Trudeau otmfm.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 March 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

three years pass...

Not the lolziest or beard-strokingest response but I like Ruben Bolling and I like Garry Trudeau.

http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2015/05/01?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+uclick%2Ftomthedancingbug+%28Tom+the+Dancing+Bug+-+GoComics.com%29

Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Friday, 1 May 2015 17:54 (ten years ago)

for posterity's sake, here's the strip referenced in the original post:

http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2004/07/01

DJP, Friday, 1 May 2015 18:13 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

came up today in my feed (i think all the dailies are reruns now) - felt exceptionally dark

http://assets.amuniversal.com/103fe7100978013462ef005056a9545d

Mordy, Saturday, 11 June 2016 16:20 (nine years ago)

four years pass...

Having a blast re-reading the 70s collections. They were essential education back in the day. Phred, Honey, Ginny & Clyde, MacArthur, etc ... Trudeau wrote his supporting cast very well.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 05:40 (five years ago)

Devoured those volumes in my late teens and agree totally - all those characters are still sharp in my memory. Would love to plop down someday and reread the whole strip in order, the long-term soap opera and sense of caring about the characters is remarkable for a strip you'd expect would just be full of reductive allegorical figures who are just there to facilitate political or otherwise topical gags.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:20 (five years ago)

("my late teens" = 20 years ago, to be clear)

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:21 (five years ago)

They finally released a proper complete (digital) edition a few weeks ago.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:28 (five years ago)

Ooooh that's appealing. I used to have the CD-ROM, but it was one of those annoying things where it only installed a dinky viewer program and you had to hang on to the disc and pop it in to actually view anything....

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:19 (five years ago)

I had that CD-ROM as well. Just super annoying. That @50 collection looking very tempting.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:37 (five years ago)

four months pass...

Anyone ever hear the Jimmy Thudpucker Greatest Hits album from 1977? I picked up a copy recently, listening to it for the first time right now. Seems like exceedingly generic 1977 pop-rock - a little too aggressive in places to be Yacht (though the Porcaro-Lukather credits suggest otherwise), or even the laid-back country-folk sound I pictured for the guy. Plausible as something he might have arrived at under label pressure by that point in time. I'm someone who can just enjoy the lushness of this era so it's cool. But for the record, I'm not hearing a single, Jimmy.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 22:52 (four years ago)

But like... what a weird project, right?

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 22:56 (four years ago)

a lot of these tracks could pass as demos for Elton's Blue Moves with a less distinctive vocalist filling in.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 23:17 (four years ago)

eleven months pass...

Trying to track down a Doonesbury strip and googling has got me nowhere. It's a weekday strip with each panel showing a character's reaction to a surprise birthday party at different points in his life. For example, for the birthday party at age 20, his reaction is something along the lines of "oh wow - this is totally groovy you guys!" but by the time he gets to 40, his reaction is just a stern "everybody out!" I'm pretty sure the character was Rick Redfern, probably and 80s or 90s strip.

peace, man, Thursday, 14 April 2022 13:01 (three years ago)

an

peace, man, Thursday, 14 April 2022 13:02 (three years ago)

I can't remember if I've ever actually seen that, but based on the description I can totally draw it in my head. I'd buy it as a Mark or Mike strip also. Sorry, this is not helpful!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 14 April 2022 13:15 (three years ago)

I've never been a fan but cycled through some of the strips after the 1992 birthday strip, and they were a *lot* better than I was expecting. What's a good era to dabble in?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 14 April 2022 14:01 (three years ago)

I'm sure this is a common crit, but it feels like the quieter 2nd and 3rd panel jokes & asides are generally funnier than the punchlines.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 14 April 2022 14:02 (three years ago)

I feel like if you like those early 90s strips, you might try out the post-hiatus period (October 1984 onward) which is similar in visual style and tone. But I haven't actually gone back through to see how well that period holds up.

I also feel like the best way to read Doonesbury probably is in order from, more or less, the beginning... the later soap-opera turns do trade on built-up affection for the characters. I originally read it through the big multi-year anthologies; they turn out to have been very highly abridged, but they worked for me as a teen. I feel like it might get a little rough clicking through every single scrappy college strip from the early 70s though. My advice is scoop up cheap old copies of The Doonesbury Chronicles and Doonesbury's Greatest Hits - those cover most of the 1970s, when the strip rose to fame and glory.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 14 April 2022 14:46 (three years ago)

"I feel like" a lot of things about Doonesbury, it seems.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 14 April 2022 14:46 (three years ago)

I had to replace my tattered Doonesbury Chronicles last winter and was surprised that I could find hardcover editions in decent shape for like $20-$30 bucks.

peace, man, Thursday, 14 April 2022 15:33 (three years ago)

My dad had a lot of the small paperback collections back in the 70s. I especially enjoyed "Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!"

I haven't read the strip since the Reagan years. I'm tempted to dive back in, but I'm afraid it would just depress me.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 April 2022 15:38 (three years ago)

Peace, man - I know the exact strip you mean.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 April 2022 16:54 (three years ago)

Yeah, look above - I found it!

peace, man, Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:39 (three years ago)

Stumbled across this as a result of this thread, looks like a nice deep dive:

Reading Doonesbury

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 15 April 2022 14:42 (three years ago)

^good find, thanks. i read 2 of their older posts - they did a good job providing historical context & thoughtful commentary

that's not my post, Friday, 15 April 2022 20:51 (three years ago)

wow, the one on death in the strip got to me. that Dick Davenport sequence is one of Trudeau's finest moments.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 16 April 2022 15:11 (three years ago)


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