This is the best alfredo ever

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Maybe I have cheap tastes, but I've been really enjoying these Bowl Apetit! microwavable dinners. (I think Lipton makes them?). My favorite is the alfredo - the trick is to undercook it just a bit, so some of the noodles are still crunchy. That's aldente!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 02:31 (twenty years ago)

pics plz

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 2 July 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bettycrocker.com/products/prod_bowlappetit.asp

(it's not Lipton, obv)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago)

I take it you've never been to an Italian restaurant other than Olive Garden, or you have but you live in Idaho.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:16 (twenty years ago)

Wrong on both counts. I'm a native New Yorker, and half Italian on my mom's side (though I usually don't admit it). I've eaten more Italian food than you'll ever see in your lifetime. I don't even LIKE pasta.

But these Bowl Appetit things, boy...GOLLLLLY they're good as hell.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago)

Usually don't admit it? Yeah, who wants to be associated with those dirty Eye-talians?
Seeing how I eat Italian about 3 times a week, that might be an overstatement. How can you be part Italian and not like pasta? Does not compute. That's like my 11 yr old cousin, who has a very Italian last name, but doesn't like tomato sauce AT ALL. He'll get noodles and butter. Doesn't like pizza!! We call him Michael Sanders because of it.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:29 (twenty years ago)

I have another cousin with the same very Italian last name who Americanized it because he didn't want his career in the Air Force to be hampered by people thinking he's Italian. In this day and age?!? WTF

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:34 (twenty years ago)

two interesting things about pasta I didn't know, from wikipedia:

While it is often said that Marco Polo brought the concept back with him from China, pasta had been known in Europe for many centuries before his voyage. The earliest known records are found on Etruscan tomb decorations from the 4th century BC.

Thomas Jefferson is credited with bringing the first macaroni machine to America in 1789 when he returned home after serving as ambassador to France.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago)

I knew both of those! Yay! What do I win?
And actually, I just heard about the Polo debunking a couple months ago.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago)

heh, you win a big-ah spicy meatball-uh?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:50 (twenty years ago)

I really hope that's not a euphemism.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:52 (twenty years ago)

it is whatever you want it to be.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago)

oops: I've suffered through enough 3pm Sunday dinners of fish and ravioli to never want to touch any of it again. I really don't like 'marinara' sauce, I prefer sweet sauce, or what we Americans call 'gravy.'

I don't blame your cousin for changing his name, and if my last name ended in a vowel I'd change it too. But to me, it's more of a local stigma. I have no problem with Eye-talians per se, but I have a LOT of problems with the majority of them around here. All except my mom. :)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago)

I think it's pretty stupid to hide your heritage.
I had once a week while growing up and I have it at least once a week now. No chance I'll ever get totally sick of it. There's too many variations.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm the pariah at Xmas, as you might imagine. "Can't you at least buy Prego?" "Why is there sausage floating in everything?" "Is Taco Bell open?"

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago)

Wait you like Prego too???
Xmas at my house means LASAGNA!!!

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm buying lots of Michelina's Lean Gourmet Garden Bistro bowls (microwaveable). Just a bowl of veggies in Greek, Mandarin, Southwestern and American(?) styles. They're all really good with lots of veggies and very little fat.

Aaron A., Friday, 2 July 2004 04:28 (twenty years ago)

I wish I could force myself to eat that stuff.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:31 (twenty years ago)

I ate all the Michelena's stuff for awhile at work but then reached the point where it started tasting gross, which seems to happen somewhat quickly with all frozen stuff.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:33 (twenty years ago)

I'd rather eat Spaghetti-Os

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago)

We're living in a curious Golden Age of convenience food (actually I can go on for an hour about why this is and what's good and bad about it, but I have had exactly too much Scotch to type it plus another sip just now), but my favorite of them all is still Stouffer's lasagna. Not the family-size one, not the five-cheese one, but the "individual size" classic one that's easily enough for two lunches.

(When I was living with someone who was lactose-intolerant, this was my cheese fix.)

In counting "favorite" there, I am obviously discounting any and all frozen potato product, in the interest of fairness. And I am perhaps finally admitting that The Perfect Food -- Ore-Ida's Tater Dogs, cocktail-sized hotdogs stuffed into tater tots -- is no longer produced, which removes it from consideration as well.

I miss you, Perfect Food. I trust you have moved on to some Platonic kitchen where frozen potato product always cooks evenly, and the ketchup never veers from the ideal temperature.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:37 (twenty years ago)

Those Stouffer lasagnas are indeed very good for a frozen dinner. Still tastes like a different foodstuff altogether than my mom's lasagna, of course. Kind of like the generic frozen pizzas my mom would buy when I was young and I'd say "it doesn't taste like pizza...but it's good!"

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:41 (twenty years ago)

I actually prefer the Banquet lasagna, with the meat chunks. Mmmmmmmm

best frozen pizza - Celeste zesty four cheese. But that's another thread.

This is depressing. Once upon a time, Wifey COOKED meals. Once she snagged me, that was the end of that.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:44 (twenty years ago)

Exactly, it's the Taco Bell/Mexican difference, or McDonald's/backyard grill, or what have you. Stouffer's doesn't taste like lasagna I could make ... but by the same token, I couldn't make lasagna that tastes like Stouffer's, either.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:44 (twenty years ago)

I want a damn Tater Dog.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:46 (twenty years ago)

The daughter of Mama Celeste owns a really good Italian restaurant near here. Arguably the best one in the 'burbs.

I haven't had it for ages, but in HS I used to live off the Marie Calendar's pasta combo dinners: ravioli and rigatoni in marinara, plus garlic bread. Their lasagna was pretty good too, IIRC.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:49 (twenty years ago)

I sympathize with you Tep. I would go through about 3 bageldogs a week but the fuckers at my grocery store decided to not stock it anymore. :'( They were great, just 50 secs in the microwave. They do still sell a bag full of mini bageldogs, but they taste completely different.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:51 (twenty years ago)

Don't you hate it when they have something kind of the same, and yet not? Hot dogs in general frustrate me that way, now that so many of them are bad, or bland at best. You can get natural casing dogs from Boar's Head, but even those aren't as good as in The Old Days.

(I thought this was just an "I moved out of the northeast" thing until I visited my mother and realized the grocery stores there had exactly the same hot dog selection.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:55 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of Stouffer's, those French Bread pizzas are really good. I get the extra cheese ones, since the meat they put on the others is pretty scary. Top it off with some red onion, Penzey's Italian Herb mix, and chili garlic sauce---the stuff you usually get at Thai places.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:59 (twenty years ago)

Those ARE good but I don't like the extra cheese - it's too much.

Tep, I know what you mena about things tasting different. Is it just me or did Devil Dogs used to taste much better?

Also - Mini Sugar Daddys are my favorite thing to eat. EVER. If I was to be executed by the state, I'd ask for a plate full of them. But i will NOT eat Sugar Babies or even regulation sized Sugar Daddys. They taste gross to me. But I buy the mini ones by the box. They're getting harder and harder to find.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago)

I Was just thinking about French bread pizza recently. That contributed to my liking pizza again after being scarred by bad pizza at an early age. What a weird fad, though! All of a sudden that was all anyone wanted, when I was in like 6th grade or so. It was the creme brulee of its age (for the 6th grade set, anyway).

Devil Dogs, man -- you can't get them here, and my ex asked me to pick her up a box when I visited my mother. So I did, and my girlfriend had never tried them either, since she's from Washington and had never been east before. So she tried one, nodded, it was good, etc. Later, I saw her eating another one -- this is a woman who never eats snack food, doesn't really go for dessert unless it's ice cream or I've made something -- and caught the look on her face, told her we could always pick up a new box for Kathy before we left. By the end of the weekend, the box was empty.

So I don't know if they taste different or not :) I know Twinkies are moister than they used to be, but only because I used to fry them in jr high, and I can do so now and note the way it cooks differently.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:14 (twenty years ago)

Wow that sounds amazing! I'm gonan fry me up a Twinkie!

(Well, this will stand, on record, if I don't make it back when ILX returns, it's because I've died eating fried Twinkies)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:19 (twenty years ago)

Ahh school-cafeteria fr bread pizzas aka pizza boats. Just about the only thing served ar school that I actually liked eating, rather than just eating something cause it was slightly better than starving.

What are Devil Dogs?

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:20 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, fry a Twinkie. You will feel bad about it afterwards, but it's surprisingly good. Just a little butter, flip it over until it's browned some on every side, like a hot dog.

Devil Dog -- um, hrm. I'd say "like a whoopie pie, sort of," but people who don't know what a Devil Dog is usually don't know whoopie pies. I have an explanation written down, if I can find it.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, man, they're the best. An acquired taste for some (Wifey hates them) because they're pretty dry, but man, they're so great in their simplicity. Imitators like Swiss Rolls (Little Debbie) are no comparison - the original Devil Dogs are probably the best snack cake ever. Waxy, marshmallow-y cream filling, shaped like a big black penis (though not as phallic as Yodels) - fuck, dude, go get some.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:24 (twenty years ago)

Here we go:

Devil Dogs are the best-known product of Drake's Cakes (which is probably something like Corporate Foods International or something now), and I've always assumed they get their name from being roughly the size and shape of a hot dog bun: they're a sandwich of two cakes everyone calls Devil's food cake, but that really aren't. They're denser and drier -- in a good way, especially when you freeze them -- than Devil's food is. If you imagine a spectrum where Real Cake is in the center, and Twinkies' relationship to sponge cake brings them off to the left, then Devil Dogs' relationship to Devil's food cake is somewhere off to the right. An equal distance, but the opposite direction. It's almost more like a soft cookie than a cake; there's no porousness, no airholes like cake has. And again, this isn't a fault: this is by design.

Devil Dogs are actually the manufactured, prepackaged version of Whoopie Pies, more or less; Whoopie Pies are round, and look like large homemade Oreos. But they rarely have that dense texture, because it's very hard to do.

The cream filling is like a cross between Oreo cookie filling and Twinkie filling. It's dense, too, almost like homemade frosting -- not the thixotropic stuff of Twinkies.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:25 (twenty years ago)

Those do sound good. Would Swiss Rolls (which I haven't had in forever and used to love) be the Lil Debbie imitation or would Suzy Q's be?

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:29 (twenty years ago)

It's ... hrm. Somewhere in between, I guess? Or off to the side. The Suzy Q filling is closer, and Swiss Rolls have chocolate coating or something, don't they? Which Devil Dogs don't.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:31 (twenty years ago)

I really don't like that chocoalte coating. I MUCH prefer Drakes to Little Debbie as a rule. And homemade Rice Krispies Treats above all. I think I'm going to wake Jessica and have her make me some.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:33 (twenty years ago)

Don't wake her, those are the easiest things in the world to make. Butter, marshmellows, rice krispies, put in pan, blammo.

That choc coating would always crumble half way off and I'd notice that I actually liked it better without, so then I'd just peel it off myself. So the cake part of the swiss rolls is close to the devil dog's? I definitely like that texture better than suzy q's's'. I can't get any Drakes products out here, or at least not at any store I've been to.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:39 (twenty years ago)


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