terry richardson

i think to the extent that he is celebrated for mussying up stars, it's a fairly facile ploy, as mussying them up only contributes to their glamour in a certain way. they become even more remote and untouchable. but perhaps this is what richardson wants? i wouldn't presume to gauge his intentions from the press he gets. though his blurring the line between professional photography and pornography (or should i say between artifice and artlessness?) is not really terribly interesting to me, no more interesting than the general pornification of popular culture has become. though i guess his omnisexual aspect is mildly refreshing.

in general he is really tied up with that "celebrity photography" genre which while contributing nothing of any great value to the world, no doubt has its serious talents.

his photos of maggie gyllenhaal for nylon were amazingly lovely.

sorry for see-sawing.

what are your thoughts anthony?

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but i dont think he is as transgressive or interesting as he thinks he is, and i think the instamatic thing is a ploy for aesthetic symptahty(sp) just like using his fathers less then stable answering machine messages in his first gallery show was a ploy for emotional sympathy.

there is something that bothers me about him, but lots and lots of the photos are conceptually interesting, and concern themselves with the ethics of subject/artist that i have been thinking about for a few weeks.

also junkie ?

Anthony please believe, the man's just not CLEAN on so many levels, mmm-kay?

http://www.maggie-gyllenhaal.net/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=41

http://www.amconmag.com/08_11_03/feature.html

my devils advocacy on the ile thread about that is easily the dumbest shit ive ever posted

I'm sure this has been on another thread, but still pretty funny:

http://www.hypebeast.com/image/2008/09/terry-richardson-obama-photo.jpg

Don't really understand how Richardson got so much work to begin with, he's pretty one note.

his note is famous hot ladies being edgily a bit naked

not that hard to grok

are YOU jerking off to a watch??

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DtDTruXLO_E/SvsOWHpPn0I/AAAAAAAACQc/BdH7YBknQyA/s400/3328778890_89255ce059_o.gif

this one's pretty porno

http://www.visit4info.com/sitecontent/LG/fullZZZZZZPRW051127211626PIC.jpg

heyo

are you saying the only dudes into terry richardson are rappers?

no one's saying that

his note is famous hot ladies being edgily a bit naked

Yeah, but it's not like he's the only photographer who does that.

...but the pervo content is a bit much and too vice mag

― armando white (dyao), Tuesday, April 6, 2010 11:07 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

vice mag is a little too t.r. if you want to get your times right

LEGERND

i do actually admire people who've made a living out of just doing something super-easy and goofing around. obvs the recently reported creepiness is not cool tho.

I'm stunned that a 14-year-old could do pwnage so well. Go, Tavi!

http://www.thestylerookie.com/2010/05/can-i-just-say.html

tavi otm

And, let's clarify: you don't love women just because you have sex with them and like taking pictures of their ladyparts. I'm not saying that's all Richardson does, but "love" entails "respect" and also "the basic human decency to not use pictures of someone's lady parts for your photography show without her permission" and also "the basic human decency to not pressure a girl into giving you a hand job because OH MY GOD I WILL LITERALLY NOT BE ABLE TO PRESS THE FLASH BUTTON ON MY CAMERA UNLESS YOU TAKE NOTICE OF THE FACT THAT I HAVE NO PANTS ON. ALSO I'M A PROFESSIONAL."

haha ZING! and I liked this bit too

...I can already see the comments reading "You feminists are so uptight! Let a stranger manipulate you into doing weird things to him for once in your life, gosh!" (Even though I hope there aren't people who view this as a strictly feminist issue-it's a HUMAN issue. As in, this shouldn't be happening to any human, no matter their gender, though it's worsened by the fact that being male gave him more power.)

this girl is so awesome

I'd have thought everything she says in that article is glaringly obvious. I guess it's not..?? That's sort of depressing.

There is a vibe in fashion that only losers or The Worthy complain about the exploitation of people working professionally in the industry, the idea being that successful people have more important things (and people) to worry about. A commenter at Tavi's blog pointed out that such indignities would never befall Anna Wintour's daughter - which is kind of the point Tavi is trying to make, that this is a bully who preys on the powerless on those occasions he can.

well yeah, i mean i know ppl on the low rungs of the fashion industry and they are all pretty horribly treated

also they are not running in heels style retards, they are capable skilled employees who get treated like shit and work for nothing

http://i.imgur.com/ELzYKVW.jpg

see i cant get a hard on w. his work. (isnt that the defention of porn, wether you can masterbate to it ?)
― anthony, Friday, July 16, 2004 6:14 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good analysis from anthony

He has just been dropped by Target and Vogue because, hey, it turns out he's a rapey creep. Who knew?

I feel like there's a parallel here with Donald Sterling -- "so this is what changed your mind?"

Exactly. Nobody with even the vaguest interest in fashion could have been under any illusion about him being a vile predator but it's good to see the right thing being done, if only for the wrong reasons.

But also, people do things, and then they have regrets, and that’s also nothing to do with me. Then don’t do pictures like that again … I’m okay with myself about everything, and that to me is the most important thing.

that is very fucking far from the most important thing imo

Oh well as long as Terry Richardson is OK with himself that's cool, move along everyone

lol @ poor Obama coming up when you google this dude's name

kinda feel this: http://gawker.com/heres-the-terry-richardson-profile-you-didnt-read-in-ne-1592188149

I already (thought that I) thought the worst of this guy, but the nymag article made me think worse.
nobody's acting like this is a cool rehabilitating article right?

Not really "rehabilitating" but certainly overly balanced.

http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/06/17/terry-richardson-predatory-artist

what is 'overly balanced'

nb the article i linked is reading more into the nymag article than i think is reasonable ... but then i came away from reading the ny mag article thinking terry was a bigger scumbag than i thought so idk why it's being seen as esp. forgiving

the headline on the nymag article, though, def sets a really stupid tone

xp when they show 'both sides of the story' and act like they have equal weight

isn't that a projection

like, i see these two paragraphs next to each other:

But he seems either unaware of or unwilling to acknowledge the ways in which coercion can be unspoken and situational. A prominent photography agent identifies the potential for abuse. “Kate Moss wasn’t asked to grab a hard dick,” this person says. “Miley Cyrus wasn’t asked to grab a hard dick. H&M models weren’t asked to grab a hard dick. But these other girls, the 19-year-old girl from Whereverville, should be the one to say, ‘I don’t think this is a good idea’? These girls are told by agents how important he is, and then they show up and it’s a bait and switch. This guy and his friends are literally like, ‘Grab my boner.’ Is this girl going to say no? And go back to the village? That’s not a real choice. It’s a false choice.”

Someone who’s spoken with Richardson about the Kibosh project recalls him describing his feelings with some nuance. “He said, ‘I was really up front about the kind of work I was making, and it came from pain; it was an expression of the pain and trauma I’ve experienced in my life, and I’m not proud of it.’ ” In our conversations, Richardson was less introspective and more defensive. “I don’t have any regrets about the work at all,” he tells me, “but obviously I don’t ever want someone to feel like that. It was never my intention. But also, people do things, and then they have regrets, and that’s also nothing to do with me. Then don’t do pictures like that again … I’m okay with myself about everything, and that to me is the most important thing.”

It's the structure of 'both sides' but not the content. i mean, apparently a lot of people aren't reading it the way i did, so some of that has to fall on the writer—when I read the "Canyons" (lindsey lohan, james deen, etc.) piece in the new york times, it was a lot more dryly humorous. So maybe this piece is sloppier? But nonetheless, I read that last paragraph as pretty damning.

The article does raise some of the concerns but, in my view, makes the ideas that he has 'pushed his art into grey areas that some people are uncomfortable with' and 'he is a rapist and sexual predator' seem like equally defensible positions. Maybe it is projection, i don't know.

for an overly balanced article it seems to have made people universally grossed out by terry richardson, so... maybe it's not overly balanced?
like you might as well show 'both sides of the story' if one is clearly super damning and then your point is made. maybe I'm misreading though.

he is a butt hole

idk, idk. Plenty of comments below the article itself that would seem to contradict that but perhaps that's to be expected.

xp

tbf there were rumors ahead of time that NYmag was working on something 100% in his defense and what they actually ran was pretty warts and all beyond the quotes TR gave, and in a way it's more damning for that stuff to appear in a piece that he cooperated with and was interviewed for.

Hah I didn't know his dad was also a famous fashion photog

That Dame mag piece is just weird. The prima facie idiocy of the "other side of the story" is all the more damning. It would be a less effective takedown without the stuff from the Richardson camp.

Yeah, the details about his dad are the only new parts of this for me (and that he took up with 17-year-old Anjelica Houston when TR was a kid).

On the one hand, Gavin Mcinnes liked the piece. On the other hand, Ross douthat was opposed.

for an overly balanced article it seems to have made people universally grossed out by terry richardson, so... maybe it's not overly balanced?
like you might as well show 'both sides of the story' if one is clearly super damning and then your point is made. maybe I'm misreading though.

― chinavision!, Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:42 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah this was my line of thinking. I don't need the writer to hold my hand on whose quotes are dumb and whose aren't when it seems self evident to me

http://racked.com/uploads/MarthaStewartTerryRichardson_2014_7.jpg

Just wait until you see the subsequent photos in that series.

One leg in the air, posing with a jar of peanut butter. (spoiler)