Iraq prison abuse pt. 8 - it's worse: children at Abu Ghraib

But, yes, I kind of remember reading about this a while go, just not in any detail.

This, along with Allawi's background will probably be the scandals of the week (assuming Allawi isn't assassinated before the end of the week).

The more surprising thing (OK, not surprising...irritating) is that, when the damn Secretary of Defense says, "There's lots worse stuff that hasn't come out," that the entire appartus of the American media didn't immediately start clamoring for it. Instead it was almost like people just didn't want to know. Even Hersh has been reluctant, obviously. It's like, it's too bad for anyone to really want to deal with...

Meanwhile, I read in the paper the other day that senators are "losing interest" in the prison scandal investigations. Old news, I guess.

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I'm not a real political man
I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference
in Iraq and Iran

EdCone.com: "Washington Times/UPI: 'American journalist Seymour Hersh has said there are videotapes of American soldiers sodomizing young Iraqi boys at Abu Ghraib prison.'

Incorrect. Hersh does not say the attacks are by American soldiers, and he does not specify the age of the boys.

I have emailed UPI with a correction. Ditto Aljazeera.net, which makes the same mistakes in its report."

"It's worse: children at Abu Ghraib"

Or am I missing something?

Amateurist--I refer to the the conspiracy theory that a climate that encouraged torture can be extrapolated to included torturing innocent boys. If there's valid evidence for it great. But right now, I'd say it's sketchy.

I find it hard to believe that Hersh is not in the process of writing about this, if it's true.

dan you have an excellent point re: American (and British, and others') prison systems. I can totally see a sadistic officer or two seeing those photos and being like "welllllll.... yeah."

I could go on and on.

That doesn't mean we should be exporting it!

I don't like the conditions that exist in U.S. prisons, and no, I don't know enough about them. The whole (thoroughly inconsistent) drug war filling our prisons needs to be either dropped or greatly reformed.

Percentage change since 1992 in the annual number of people murdered in the United States, per 100,000: -40
Percentage change since then in the number of people serving a life sentence in a U.S. prison: +83

The nutballs who voted for mandatory sentencing deserve to serve some time themselves.

Are y'all saying you never heard this stuff before the last few weeks? Because I remember it being bruited about a lot in foreign press and on assorted blogs when the Abu Ghraib photos first came out. The story at the time was that it was Iraqis doing the sodomizing, but with U.S. soldiers (or contractors, I guess) present. (I can't find a link to the earlier versions of the reports, and I'm kind of afraid to type anything involving sodomized children into Google, but it was just basically the same as what Hersh said.) Anyway, like I said, if Don Rumsfeld actually felt it necessary to warn us that there was much worse stuff that hadn't come out, it's surely got to be something pretty awful. Or is Rumsfeld in this with Hersh? (The mother of all conspiracies!)

Newly leaked pictures

By The Daily Telegraph
September 8, 2006

The brutal excesses of Saddam Hussein's regime were relived yesterday as Iraq's new government announced that it had hanged 27 prisoners convicted of terror and criminal charges.

Mass executions at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison, which has several gallows erected in the execution chamber, were suspended after coalition-led troops overthrew Saddam three years ago. The death penalty was reinstituted in 2004, and yesterday's executions took place just days after control of Abu Ghraib was handed over to the Iraqi authorities.

An Iraqi Justice Ministry official said two of those hanged had been convicted of terrorism charges, and the other 25 — including a woman — were convicted of murder and kidnapping.

News of the executions was made public by Prime Minister al-Maliki when he attended a ceremony to mark the transfer of control of Iraq's military to the recently elected government from American control.

"This is the message I have for the terrorists," he said of the hanged prisoners, "we will see that you get great punishment wherever you are. There is nothing for you but prison and punishment."

The government's press office later confirmed that the sentences had been carried out on Wednesday. It also called the prisoners "terrorists," a name normally reserved for insurgents who have attacked coalition or Iraqi forces.

Mass executions of convicted prisoners took place on an almost weekly basis under Saddam's regime, with Sunday and Wednesday the most popular days.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1224116,00.html

Now however, it's a symbol of JUSTICE and FREEDOM .

"We will demolish the Abu Ghraib prison as a fitting symbol of Iraq's new beginning."

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

hi guys, remember when the us army and the CIA tortured people to death, it was formally considered homicide, and nobody was ever charged?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Manadel_al-Jamadi

those were some good fuckin times

seems kinda quaint now tbh

water under the bridge!

we’ve come a long way, baby

15 years ago, children were being held in iraqi torture camps

today, they’re being murdered in american concentration camps

P R O G R E S S

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https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2019/08/25/appeals-court-clears-way-for-trial-in-abu-ghraib-suit-1475221

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