Death of a work colleague

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Has anyone had to deal with this?

How do you carry on?

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 18 July 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

How awful, did this happen to you? Did they die on the job or elsewise? I can imagine that would make some difference to the level of distress.

Havent had a death at work that I can think of - have had at school though (students and teachers) and it was indeed quite the shock.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 19 July 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

A few years back a colleague that I worked closely with on a project was suddenly hospitalized, due to a recurrence of cancer. He was sort of a private guy, but very nice and funny, and had recently married his longtime girlfriend. During his treatment, while in the hospital he came down with a staph infection, and died. Everyone from work went to his funeral - on a bright, sunny day - but I'm not sure any of us dealt with his loss particularly well. None of us seemed able to talk about it. Not long after that, I left, though I heard from others that the company did quite a bit for his wife's well-being, which was good, but again I don't think anybody dealt with his death in any substantial way. So I don't know what to tell you other than I hope whatever situation you might be in, I hope it goes better than mine. If your company decides to offer counselling or something like that (mine didn't), take it. Even though I wasn't particularly close with this co-worker (though as I stated, we worked closely on a project), I think counselling of some sort would've been beneficial (and not just to me).

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

We avoid death, so when it happens we don't know how to deal with it. That's not good for anyone.

That's the Way (uh huh uh huh) I Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 19 July 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never had a work colleague die while I was on the job with them. I did lose my best friend in high school to a car accident my senior year, which is completely different I suppose...

I had a friend who worked on a show out here in L.A., and a guy he worked with died on 9/11 in one of the planes. Wednesday morning, the exec producer posted a note around the office that said "yes, this was terrible, but we have to finish our work." He said a few people quit because of that note and the timing of it.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 July 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh! While not relating to death, I have seen close to that level pf badly timed insensitivity in my current job, and I'm sick of it. I dont blame anyone for quitting over that - I probably might have also.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 19 July 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

We lost several people in the US World Trade Centre thingo. The big boss sent out an email saying the best thing we can do is show the terrorists how unaffected we are by carrying on as usual.

That's the Way (uh huh uh huh) I Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 19 July 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

That is f***ed up in too many ways to contemplate.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 19 July 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Sadly, I think a good trudge through the ILX archives from then might not sound too different, at least in certain cases.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 19 July 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The Big Boss was most likely OTM with his message, but in that position the last person I'd have wanted or needed to hear it from was him with all his assumed self-interest. Most likely we'd have all worked it out for ourselves sooner rather than later. As management it makes Dave Brent sound like Bill Gates.

In 1987 we lost a bloke to cancer at age 28. We knew he was ill, and for a couple of years before he went there had been a grapevine of news circul;ating that he was doing well or not so well or whatever. As a group we were all fairly close, same ages, most of us flunked out Uni students, all lived out the same side of town, we went on weekends together, went boozing Fridays, all that sort of stuff.

We were never more cohesive and considerate of each other than the week or so after the funeral. Then over the next few months it all went absolutely haywire, and took a couple of years and another crisis (this one directly affecting all of us, the department was ceasing to exist) to really bring us back together.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 19 July 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

When I worked in an adolescent group home, Don was one of the kindest most straight-up honest guys I've ever known. He was a Christian, but not a proselytizing Christian, and the kids really responded to him. Anyway, he was in an a capella group who toured mostly Western Canada, and he balanced these two worlds as well as anyone might. One day, while driving their "tour bus" (an old VW camper) he hit the gas on a corner somewhere in the Rockies between Vancouver and Calgary, only the road had a patch of black ice there, and the van left the road. He was the only one killed.

We (family, friends, colleagues) had a memorial service for him, complete with an open casket (which was spooky -- he was 27 years old, looked an indeterminate age all altered and screwed up in the coffin), and I for one never really felt like anything good came of his death, nothing (in spite of all the usual platitudes).

Oh, he also enjoyed messing with stage lighting, it intrigued him. When I got home from work after we heard of his death, I told my partner and we went for a walk under a starry sky. Suddenly, while I thought of him and his recent stage lighting fixation, I looked up and saw the flickering green trails of the Aurora, something that's reasonably rare this far south.

This has happened again a few times in the intervening years, the Northern Lights appearing at moments of incredible intensity (death, loss, sudden change). As a rational skeptic I have no idea what to make of this, but it happened, that's all I know.

But, back on topic, you'd think a "social services" type agency would provide something tangible for its workers after a death as unexpected and sorrowful as Don's. But no, nothing really. No counseling, no acknowledgement at all.

David A. (Davant), Monday, 19 July 2004 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i shudder to think of the possible response to a death in one of my previous offices, with all their intense emotional constipation.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 July 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm thinking in hindsight that it's maybe a full-on relief these losers (the child and family services agency I worked for) didn't address it the death of our colleague in more detail. Can you imagine the psychobabble, with all its talk of "closure"?

[As an aside, whenever the media jumps on this concept of closure, I wince. for a family whose child has been abducted and murdered, say, there is never any "closure". By suggesting that the capture and subsequent incarceration of the perpetrator will bring any kind of "closure" is a cruel lie based on nothing at all, it's bullshit. (End sudden rant)]

David A. (Davant), Monday, 19 July 2004 06:15 (twenty-one years ago)

In the case I outlined above. there was no official word from the brass. They sent a memo round officially advising anybody who wanted the afternoon off to attend the funeral could have it on full pay (in a way which didn't draw attention in any obvious way to how magnanimous They were being), but that was their response just about in toto. We were left to sort things out ourselves among ourselves as best we could, and I can't see how it may have been done better. If the Akelas had stuck their nose in any further it just wouldn't have been taken the right way.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 19 July 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

When there's little or next-to-no connection between upper management and regular workers, I think the way the brass handled this in your case, Fred, is probably better than some lame attempt at hands-on compassion. But when compassion is your bread and butter, I wonder about the competence of agencies who allow grief and trauma to intrude into the workplace with absolutely no idea how to alleviate the damage this can cause (cf/ vicarious traumatization in firefighters, nurses, cops, therapists, youth workers, etc).

David A. (Davant), Monday, 19 July 2004 06:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(This last point is too close for comfort in my own life, and is a bit of a hobbyhorse for me.)

David A. (Davant), Monday, 19 July 2004 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a sudden death of one of only three people in the office I have worked in for only two months (she died at home last week). I am now floundering in a new job with no real guidance and back-up and feeling a bit guilty as I don't share the real level of grief having hardly known her and am more panicking about the aforementioned floundering aspect.

(I realise "how do you carry on" sounded a bit melodramatic, by the way, I was struggling for a better turn of phrase like "how do you continue to operate the office when there's a big part of it missing" kind of thing.)

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 19 July 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

am now floundering in a new job with no real guidance and back-up and feeling a bit guilty as I don't share the real level of grief having hardly known her and am more panicking about the aforementioned floundering aspect.

Ailsa, can empathise, but you seriously have no need to feel guilty about your lack of grief: as you said, you weren't close to her. That doesn't keep you from regretting that a fellow human being has passed on.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 19 July 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

My wife is away traveling for work this week and she suddenly got an email with a red! exclamation mark from the company VP here in LA calling her whole team into his office in 30 minutes. They've had some layoffs so everybody started freaking out and she kept calling the office to find out what was up but nobody knew. Turns out a co-worker who was out for three months with pneumonia had come back to the office for a week and then suddenly died. So everybody got to go through the horrible guilty feeling of being relieved that they still had their jobs but tinged with remorse over the death of their co-worker. All of this while my wife is out in the field and can't get any info about what is going on.

And then they all get a company PDF forwarded to their email about "coping with the death of a co-worker".

Corporations suck.

Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Also this woman was in her mid-30s, married, two young kids, not serious health problems before.

Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

NO serious

Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

horrible

snooki stackhouse (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

Very nice lady in her mid-thirties, two children, collasped on her way to work two weeks ago and the EMTs couldn't revive her. Not only tragic but completely out of the blue.

Un peu d'Eire, ça fait toujours Dublin (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

One of my colleagues has been out on medical leave for months already b/c of pneumonia -- actually she was in the hospital for months and has been on home leave since. Scary stuff. Could easily have been one for this thread, I observe in retrospect.

Jesus doesn't want me for a thundercloud (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

Manager of a different branch of my last employer died really suddenly last year, went into hospital complaining of a sore stomach, died of cancer two weeks later.

We never got any leaflets or anything.

ailsa, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)


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