Tony Blair says it is time to mark the end of the "1960s liberal consensus"

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Prime Minister Tony Blair has said it is time to mark the end of the "1960s liberal consensus" on law and order.

Trailing Labour's five-year plans on fighting crime, Mr Blair argued people now want a society with respect and responsibility.

Under Monday's plans, the 5,000 most prolific criminals in England and Wales are to be constantly satellite-tracked.

But opposition parties say the package only tries to grab headlines without offering genuinely new measures.

Fines

With tackling nuisance behaviour a major target of the plans, the public are to get the power to call on police and councils to tackle such problems.

And they will be able to trigger inspections of local police forces by gathering petitions.

Fixed penalty notices are also being extended to cover under-age drinking, lower level damage and theft and misuse of fireworks.

In a one-day exercise last year to establish the extent of anti-social behaviour, the government recorded 66,000 incidents (see table below).


People have had enough of this part of the 1960s consensus
Tony Blair
Blair's speech

Full text of Blair's speech
Tagging a "prison without bars"

Home Secretary David Blunkett also announced a new neighbourhood policing fund, helping to recruit 20,000 extra community support officers.

Tagging and satellite tracking will double so 18,000 are tracked at any one time.

Mr Blunkett said the move could target the 5,000 most prolific repeat offenders, who committed one in 10 crimes.

He said they could also act as "prison without bars" for lower level offenders.

He also promised electronic border controls to work alongside his plans for a national ID card scheme.

'United action'

Earlier, the prime minister set the scene for the five-year plans by warning that 1960s liberalism had gone too far.

Mr Blair said: "People do not want a return to old prejudices and ugly discrimination.

"But they want rules, order and proper behaviour."


The punishment for breaching an Asbo is quite severe - you can go to prison for five years, and that makes it a deterrent that can't be ignored
Nottingham City Council

Asbos 'to criminalise youngsters'
Key points at-a-glance

Mr Blair said the 1960s saw great breakthroughs on individual rights, women's rights and rejection of discrimination, deference and rigid class divisions.

Law and order policy had become focused on offenders rights and preventing miscarriages of justice.

"Meanwhile, some took the freedom without the responsibility," he said.

And the era spawned a group of young people without parental discipline or a sense of responsibility.

Mr Blair continued: "Here and now, people have had enough of this part of the 1960s consensus."

He said there would be trial without jury if there was any intimidation of those doing jury service in criminal trials.

Gimmicks?

Mr Blair said that as tough as government action seemed, it was not tough enough for the public and the new plan would be a "step change".

"For the first time in my political lifetime the politicians, public and police are actually on the same side," he added.


PLAN AT A GLANCE
Offender being electronically tagged
More criminals to be electronically tagged
Spotlight on serial offenders
50 more schemes to tackle anti-social behaviour
More focus on drug users
New unit for witnesses and victims of crime
More civilian wardens and community support officers
Extra money for youth projects

But Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Mark Oaten said: "People do not want an end to a free and liberal society, but sensible solutions to growing problems.

"This government promised to be tough on crime and the causes of crime. We have seen a lot of get tough rhetoric but little progress on tackling the causes."

The Conservatives say crime and disorder have increased under Labour despite numerous "crackdowns" and gimmicks.

Tory shadow minister James Paice said the government was offering centralised control, more bureaucracy and spin.

"Reassurance won't come from words or money alone but from results," Mr Paice told MPs.

The Home Office aims to cut offending by 15% by 2008, a target that was agreed with the Treasury as part of last week's spending review.

Worst offenders

The five-year plan will see a scheme combining police, councils' and other agencies' efforts against anti-social behaviour grow from the current 12 pilot schemes to a further 40 areas.


I've seen neighbours' cars with windows put out, buses attacked and kids run riot in the old folks' home
Kevin Chapman, Nottingham resident

The wonderful world of Asbos
Q&A: Anti-social behaviour
Have Your Say

The fifty worst offenders in each of the 50 areas will be named and targeted, said the Home Office.

Mr Blunkett said pilots of the scheme would begin in the autumn and be focused on young people.

The government plans also include directing more drug users will be directed to community treatment, with tough penalties if they fail, the Home Office will say.

By 2008, it expects 1,000 drug-using criminals to be referred to community treatment each week.

Overall the Home Office needs to reduce the 5.9 million offences recorded in England and Wales in 2002-2003 by 885,000.

Anti-social behaviour in England and Wales
Instances recorded 10 Sept 2003
Incident Reports Est annual cost
Litter/rubbish 10,686 £466m
Vandalism 7,855 £667m
Nuisance/intimidation 13,075 £851m
Noise/Rowdiness 10,713 £498m
Abandoned vehicles 4,994 £90m
Drinking/begging 3,239 £126m
Drugs related 2,920 £132m
Animal related 2,546 £114m
Prostitution-related 1,011 £42m
Source: Home Office Day Count exercise

News Hound, Monday, 19 July 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

the idea that the "liberal consensus" is antithetical to "law and responsibility" is pure nixon, hence, a conservative fiction. blair can eat a [deleted].

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this was the kind of thing the tories used to go on about.
Guess he must be courting tory voters again after pissing them off with the possible replacement to the council tax.

News Hound, Monday, 19 July 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

what Tory voters?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

What the fuck is blair on about? Is he now lifting all his spiel from the US conservative medis Next thing, he'll start hating on the "liberal media elite"!! Here's me thinking the "1960's liberal consensus", if it ever existed, ended the day after thatcher took power in 1979... feh.

(x-post haha tracer!!)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"medis" = "media", and there should be a question mark after it as well, grr.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

He's been watching Bob Roberts. Hmm, I like that guy's style he thought to himself.

Masked Gazza, Monday, 19 July 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe we can make the entire UK a vast invisible prison, all we need is cameras monitoring all our various "wings" oh wait

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i got nothing to hide - apart from all those crimes i commit

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Blunkett said something hilarious last week about the 'liberatti'. I'll see if I can find it.

But theres a bit on it here:

Blair rejects 60s liberalisms
Analysis
By Nick Assinder
BBC News Online political correspondent

In case there are still a few Tibetan yak farmers who haven't heard - David Blunkett doesn't like liberals.

Community support officers
Blair pledged to be tough on crime
This former leader of the socialist republic of South Yorkshire - as Sheffield Council was then known - has no time for bleeding hearts, branding them the "Liberati".

Now he seems to have found an ally in the shape of none other than the guitar-playing former longhaired CNDer Tony Blair.

And what do they blame for inflicting this curse on the land - a curse that has led to a breakdown in law and order, respect for authority and general nastiness? The 1960s of course.

The pair appear to have taken a leaf out of former Tory Chairman Norman Tebbit's book by declaring the decade of free love produced parents whose liberal, hippyish attitudes towards discipline and authority have bred a generation of feral yobs.

Too stoned

Nothing to do, presumably, with the governments of the time, the most liberalising of which was the Labour administration whose reforming home secretary was Tony Blair's hero (along with the guitarist from Free) Roy Jenkins.

Also nothing to do, presumably, with the example set by our political leaders over the past couple of decades.

Vandalism and graffiti will be targeted
Now, seeing Mr Blunkett casting himself as the puritan who "missed the 60s" - and not for the usual reason of being too stoned to notice.

But rock and roll loving, schoolboy rebel and part-time drifter Tony Blair?

If anyone in the cabinet shows the signs of being a child of the 60s then it is the prime minister.

He picks up a guitar at the drop of a hint, is prone to wearing jeans (horror of horrors) and refers to people as "guys". And it's a fair bet he has kept the Kaftan as a memento of the times.

Had enough

But no, he believes it is time to end the "1960s liberal consensus".

Smashed window
One in four people say there is a high level of disorder in their area
"From John Stuart Mill onwards, it has always been recognised that with freedom comes responsibility. But in the 1960s revolution that didn't always happen," he said.

Indeed, in the 1970s and 1980s the "basic theme" of legislation was around the prevention of miscarriages of justice, he said.

"Here, now, today, people have had enough of this part of the 1960s consensus."

This strikes a familiar tone. It is precisely the type of language used by the Tory party, and Michael Howard in particular, over the past decade and more.

That will allow the opposition to claim that Labour is up to its old tricks of nicking all its policies before the general election.

Street drunks

The prime minister will undoubtedly argue that this is a "personal crusade" and he has always allied his "tough on crime" message with policies to be "tough on the causes of crime" like social deprivation.

But he also knows that the problem of anti-social behaviour is a constant plague for some communities and they want to see a government committed to tackling it.

They want the street drunks, junkies, car thieves, mobile phone snatchers, graffiti "artists", litterers, vandals, obnoxious neighbours and aggressive and violent yobs - to name just a very few - dealt with.

So do Tony Blair and David Blunkett - and now they are promising to do just that. So, without any doubt, will Michael Howard.

So, once again, the two big parties will be sitting on the same ground come the general electio

News Hound, Monday, 19 July 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Who cares when you can focus on Schwarzenegger labels Democrats 'girlie-men' is in the news.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Here is it.


Who are the Liberati?
By Brian Wheeler
BBC News Online political reporter

David Blunkett has always seemed to delight in his role as the chattering classes' worst nightmare.

David Blunkett
Blunkett: Scourge of the chattering classes?
Plain speaking, unashamedly populist and un-PC, the home secretary seemingly never misses an opportunity to take a swipe at any hand-wringing moral guardians, in his own party and beyond, who attempt to stand in his way.

In the past, he has referred to such people as "airy fairy libertarians".

But it now seems he has a new, far snappier, if more sinister-sounding, enemy - "The Liberati".

This shadowy group made their debut on the Today programme, during a debate with presenter John Humphrys on Mr Blunkett's plans to outlaw incitement to religious hatred.


I usually get the liberati on my back
David Blunkett MP

Listen to the interview

Mr Blunkett, it seems, would like to ban religious leaders he considers "dangerous" from entering the UK.

"Whenever I do this, by the way, I usually get the Liberati on my back for being against people being able to express themselves," he told Mr Humphrys.

Mr Blunkett declined to expand on this new social category, despite prompting from a clearly perplexed Humphrys.

So who on earth can the home secretary mean?

The word "Liberati" appears to be an amalgam of literari, or perhaps glitterati (defined by BBC News Online's dictionary as "highly fashionable celebrities; the smart set") and liberal.

Yoghurt-eaters

In other words, they are an elite. Very possibly a "self-appointed" elite. Almost certainly a Metropolitan one.

They are also "liberal", in the broadest sense, perhaps the same "woolly-minded Hampstead Liberals" attacked by Mr Blunkett's predecessor Jack Straw, when in 1999 he faced criticism for attempting to remove the right of trial by jury for some defendants.

Or perhaps they are the "yoghurt-eating, muesli-eating, Guardian-reading fraternity", Labour MP Kevin Hughes referred to in the same year?

It is a confusing area, as the similar-sounding Libertarians tend to come from the right and believe in freedom-at-any-cost.

In the US, the Libertarian Party campaigns for an unrestricted free market, free speech, the right to bear arms and the legalisation of drugs.

By contrast the Hampstead liberals of political folkore are more generally portrayed as the fair-trade coffee-sipping, dinner-party attending middle classes.

A fine example of the genre is Labour MP Glenda Jackson, who first came to political prominence campaigning to stop a McDonald's restaurant opening in Hampstead, the area she now represents in Parliament.

Others often quoted include writer Fay Weldon and Labour peer Melvyn Bragg.

Compassionate Conservatives

In 2001, Mr Blunkett's Tory opposite number, David Davis singled out Oliver Letwin as the Tories' very own "Hampstead Liberal".

He meant it as a compliment - a sign of how far the Tories had come in their pursuit of "compassionate Conservatism".

Mr Letwin, then shadow home secretary, gained this reputation - and reportedly impressed Mr Blunkett - with his principled opposition to parts of the government's anti-terror bill, including, by coincidence, the creation of a separate offence of incitement to religious hatred.

Then, of course, there are the Liberal Democrats. The party has been a persistent thorn in Mr Blunkett's side over anti-terror legislation and many other issues.

But its Watford-born, comprehensive-educated home affairs spokesman, Mark Oaten, hardly fits the stereotype of the London NW3 dwelling Hampstead Liberal.

News Hound, Monday, 19 July 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

doesn't it take more than one person to declare a consensus over? doesn't there have to be like an anti-consensus?

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

WaPo article on the word "liberal" and its use in attacking Kerry/Edwards

Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there going to be a party to mark the end of the 1960s liberal consensus?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

News Hound why don't you just link to the article rather than pasting all that text?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If Blair actually buys this crap he's even more of a lightweight than I originally suspected. And if he's spewing it without believing it, well ... ditto.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

and learn to format a little...

xp

Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does he keep getting in? Seriously? Who votes for him? I've never heard anyone admit to voting for this moron.

C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Great. If they're going to go hard line, why don't they arrest this guy who gave confidential security files 'lost' by the Metropolitan Police to The Sun?

Oh wai...

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 19 July 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
'The prime minister, who recently had a family holiday in Miami, adds that it would be wrong to impose "unrealistic targets" on travellers. "You know, I'm still waiting for the first politician who's actually running for office who's going to come out and say it - and they're not," Mr Blair says. "It's like telling people you shouldn't drive anywhere."'

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

News Hound: worst ilx poster ever?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

eight years pass...

https://twitter.com/RobbieTravers

things that are jokes pretty much (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 December 2015 19:30 (ten years ago)


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