Where's Robin C?

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Anybody know where Robin Carmody is these days? He hasn't posted for aeons. Hope he's OK.

Dr. C, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Robin e-mailed me about a week ago just before I moved from Oxford. He's doing OK - just resting at the moment and trying to lead as near a normal life as possible. He doesn't really get any kicks from IL* any more - we agreed that it was getting a bit like Sounds in the Garry Bushell era. Beyond that, though, I think we are both engaged in major reassessments of our lives and what we want from them at the moment.

More about this in my own thread, which I will shortly post.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

we agreed that it was getting a bit like Sounds in the Garry Bushell era

Mi-aow!

Nick, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually I'm surprised it wasn't couched in more insulting terms...

I think it is a shame -- even though Robin hates me I found his writing about music to be very thoughtful and interesting.

Nicole, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

**we agreed that it was getting a bit like Sounds in the Garry Bushell era**

Well, I used to LIKE Sounds in the Gary Bushell era. But not GB himself, of course. There's something insanely great about a music mag which could carry articles on Crispy Ambulance, Discharge and Saxon on consecutive pages.

Was Robin reading Snouds in his pushchair?

Dr. C, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ILE = mostly The Wright Stuff>>>sometimes The Right Stuff[Ferry] >>>whereas ILM = The Right Stuff[Hawkwind]

, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What I meant was Sounds in the early-mid '80s when the Bushell axis more or less took over from the McCullough axis (i.e. post-Oi!). Ah, Dave McCullough - now there's a visionary music writer who's never mentioned, but easily up there with the Morleys and Penmen of this world. Wonder whatever happened to him?

Robin I am assured does assiduous research and knows his music press eras. Honest guv.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh I see. (Hope I'm not in the Bushell axis) Yes, McCulloch was superb - there's a review of his in the booklet of the Vic Godard "What's The Matter Boy" reissue which is a good read.

Dr. C, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I only know about him cause he popped up in Mick Middles crummy book about the Smiths. He was an early champion, which led to them earning the tag 'a Dave McCullough band' Early review of Hand in Glove ran something like "Here's another one of those bands Dave McCullough goes on about. And yes, it's tinny, messily-produced crap. Next!".

Nick, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mccullough = visionary listener but v.straightforward stylist

the purge at sounds was somewhat self-made, if what sav (jon rather than pencil) tells me is correct
jane suck was sacked for "disrespect to the jam" (or somebody, jam = me cheeking dr c); sav and sandy robertson left shortly in sympathy, tho i think there was other stuff connected w.robertson's departure — mccullough stayed for some time but fighting a losing battle

i gave up reading when they gave the raincoats LP a bad review; the oi thing was still a year or so away, and it's peak prolly two yrs: bushell left mid-80s; he'd been in the IS (precursors of SWP) when he started but by mid-80s was er "of the right" (considerably more so than today, frankly: sometimes selling out ain't entirely a bad thing)

interesting controversy: he wrote a review of a members LP when still leftie where he called Churchil a "bloated tory twat": this charge has followed him — flurry in the eye in the early 90s — but he has always managed to shake it off as basically we are all relying on our memory not our archives (i'm 100% certain he did, as eye flurry came up totally independently of me, and i'd been struck by it at the time, as "going too far" even for my scabrous punk tastes!!)

mark s, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Marcello's summary is pretty much spot on. Just one thing to add: I don't hate Nicole. Can't we make it up and be friendly?

Thought for the day: if you saw yesterday's Sun editorial and hated it, "Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)" by Technotronic featuring Ya Kid K becomes an eloquent political statement.

Enough for now.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's twice I've been 'cheeked' by ms today - uncle fester indeed. Uncle Fester didn't wear a parka.

Dr. C, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did Sounds get rockist or something?

I think the idea of a rightwards drift on ILE is bizarre, really: if anything I've noticed the opposite, a shift from posters not really mentioning their politics to posters feeling able to express their more radical or progressive concerns. But I agree with Robin that the best thing to do if you're not getting kicks from the boards is quit for a while.

Tom, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sorry dr c: withnail and i us by SOME LARGE WAY my least favourite film

also ronan seem a bit off limits for the moment

mark s, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But why does Mr Sinker hate Withnail & I, eh?

DG, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

can't answer that as have never seen it, dg

mark s, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's coming out on DVD next week. So maybe the ILE posse could have a whipround and buy you a copy.

Billy Dods, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was just asking Duane what happened to Robin Carmody yesterday. We both missed him.

maryann, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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