Bohemian Grove - summer camp for the alcoholic conservative elite or land of unspeakable evil

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THE CHOSEN FEW
S.F.'s exclusive clubs carry on traditions of fellowship, culture -- and discrimination

On Saturday, some 2,000 CEOs and politicos and arty types arrived at the cool redwoods and lily-choked lake of the Grove, the famous Russian River playground of the powerful Bohemian Club.

They say it's the place to be seen in America in July.

Except, of course, you can't see them.

Signs abound: No Thru Traffic. No Trespassing. Members and Guests Only. No Turn Around. Sentries scan the paths from above with binoculars, helped out by infrared sensors.

And what are those important men doing out there for 17 days behind that elaborate security?

Slipping into frocks and putting on pageants. The Bohemian Club, a beguiling mix of ultra-power hangout and high school play, is one of several elite private clubs in San Francisco, curious islands of conservatism amid a forest of Kerry for President signs.

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Those who are clubbable find themselves strolling past faces any American would recognize. "Never mind just plain CEOs and presidents," Hoffman said, "they have president presidents" -- such as former President George H.W. Bush, who has brought his sons.

William F. Buckley was a member until he resigned last year. He'd play Bach pieces on the harpsichord at dusk on Friday nights (to campers who'd have preferred the Cal fight song, one member told me).

The arts are a genuine part of the spirit of this club. But a bit more goes on. In 1971, President Richard Nixon, a member since 1953, was to be the lakeside speaker, but reporters had finally raised a ruckus about a sitting president giving an off-the-record speech at the Grove. Nixon sent sugary regrets in a telegram that hangs in the city clubhouse today, saying that anyone could be president of the United States, but only a few could aspire to be president of the Bohemian Club.

Privately, he said to domestic affairs adviser John Ehrlichman and Chief of Staff Bob Haldeman (and the hidden tape recorder) in the Oval Office that May: "The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time -- it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The Sonoma County Free Press has a dedicated Bohemian Grove page

What activities take place at the grove? The grove is the site of a two week retreat every July (as well as other smaller get-togethers throughout the year). At these retreats, the members commune with nature in a truly original way. They drink heavily from morning through the night, bask in their freedom to urinate on the redwoods, and perform pagan rituals (including the "Cremation of Care", in which the members wearing red-hooded robes, cremate a coffin effigy of "Dull Care" at the base of a 40 foot owl altar). Some (20%) engage in homosexual activity (but few of them support gay rights or AIDS research). They watch (and participate in) plays and comedy shows in which women are portrayed by male actors. Although women are not allowed in the Grove, members often leave at night to enjoy the company of the many prostitutes who come from around the world for this event. Is any of this hard to believe? Employees of the Grove have said that no verbal description can accurately portray the bizarre behavior of the Grove's inhabitants.  

Besides this type of merriment. the annual gathering serves as an informational clearing house for the elite. The most powerful men in the country do their "networking" here, despite the Grove's motto "weaving spiders come not here" (don't do business in the Grove). At these gatherings men representing the government, military-industrial, and financial sectors meet and make major policy decisions. The Manhattan project, which produced the first atomic bombs, was conceived at the Grove in 1942. Other decisions made at the Grove include who our presidential candidates will be. There are speeches, known as "Lakeside Talks", wherein high-ranking officials disseminate information which is not available to the public-at-large.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Conspiracy researcher Alex Jones infiltrated Bohemian Grove and shot some video.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

THEY BURN PEOPLE ALIVE

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i imagine it's like Eyes Wide Shut but with nothing but fat hairy guys

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That's on a different part of the Russian River.

Nemo (JND), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha, I know this guy from Texas who went to prison a few years ago for infiltrating that place with automatic weapons on him, dressed as a superhero. He wanted to kill Bush but he wasn't there I think he tried to set the place on fire. He got 11 years.

That's on a different part of the Russian River.
I assume you mean Guerneville? I grew up in Sonoma County, and that would be the place for "Eyes Wide Shut but with nothing but fat hairy guys".

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and that guy who broke in and tried to burn it down did it because of the Alex Jones video. He was a hard core Christian as well.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I assume you mean Guerneville? I grew up in Sonoma County, and that would be the place for "Eyes Wide Shut but with nothing but fat hairy guys".

Guerneville/Petaluma/Bolinas are actually all quite the settled-down lesbian enclaves, in a Pynchon circa Vineland/Tom Hawkins circa Wanda Tinasky circa Anderson Valley Advertiser sort of way.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

circa circa circa cicada jon secada

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Petaluma? I guess I've seen some Lesbians about...never really spent any time in Bolinas.

Sonoma County has a reasonable mix of gays throughout, together with some of the worst redneck homophobe types you'll meet in this part of the country. It balances out, I guess. I'm up in Mendocino for now, though.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

tagentspiracy:

I finished Helter Skelter over the weekend, and was surprised to find that a possible Manson Family murder was committed near Guerneville.

Also, gygax!, did you know that Charlie is thetan/clear or whatever?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoa! I didn't know Manson was a Scientologist.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

yeppers!

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

also there were ties between the Family and the Process Church. And later, after they all went to prison, the Aryan Brotherhood as well.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Is he still a Scientologist? how does he afford it from prison? Don't they make you pay hella bank to be in their organization? hahahahahaha!

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

he had technically left the Church long before the Tate-LaBianca slayings, even. There's an anecdote in the book about him and some other Family member going into a Scientology office in L.A. and asking the receptionist what one does after they become "clear."

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

what one does after they become "clear."

killing spree, obv.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the whole Bohemian Grove--->Eyes Wide Shut--->Guerneville--->Charles Manson--->Scientology circular sweep of this thread is quite amusing, btw.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

John Travolta performs "cease to exist" b/w an ISB obscurity.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone here own the "LIE" CD? The parts I've heard make want to get it.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

LIE? It's like Jandek with a heck of a lot more backup singers, if you know what I mean.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I like these Amazon recommendations for people who buy LIE:

Customers who bought this title also bought:
Cold Fact [IMPORT] ~ Rodriguez
Ollie & the Nightingales ~ Ollie & the Nightingales
Death's Gladsome Wedding [IMPORT] ~ Boyd Rice
Ege Bamyasi ~ Can
The Lateness of the Hour ~ Eric Matthews
From the Bottom of an Old Grandfather Cl [IMPORT] ~ Bill Fay
Dino Valente ~ Dino Valente
Dixie Fried ~ James Luther Dickinson

Can I could see. Eric Matthews? haw, haw.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like Jandek

oh SexyD, I still have to get my big box of Jandek. I might do it this month or next, now that the new album is out. Should I write him a check? Will he (Sterling Smith) endorse it himself? I would so keep that as a souviner if he did.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

yes and yup.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

coolness. Mr. Smith, consider the check in the mail. F'realz.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to have Lie on vinyl, it's not very good either on its own merits or as a "historical" document.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Bohemian Grove is surrounded by myth and lore, but tales of ecstasy trips and male escorts abound. I had a buddy that did sound out there once in awhile... He didn't have any hot gossip but he saw Newt drunk once.

Jack London (another imbiber) was an early member.

andy, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a great chapter on this in Jon Ronston's "Them"

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The Manhattan project, which produced the first atomic bombs, was conceived at the Grove in 1942.

This is bullshit, something only a fool would believe. The majority of the original scientists on the project were people who would be of the most unwelcome sort at Bohemian Grove.

George Smith, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Where did they conceive it, COMPUSERVE?!??!?!?!????

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven years pass...

scalia probably died doing shitloads of blow and fucking trafficked pre-teens

akm, Thursday, 25 February 2016 06:52 (nine years ago)

with this Eyes Wide Shut lot

akm, Thursday, 25 February 2016 06:52 (nine years ago)

I sure hope there's more to come.

... (Eazy), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:51 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

Kevin, who worked on the maintenance crew for two summers, remembered Henry Kissinger making a cameo in a play that featured a stoner character literally named Toker. “At one point, Kissinger, wearing a big, long-haired wig and a tie-dye shirt, comes stumbling out of Toker’s trailer followed by a huge billow of smoke. He says in a deadpan voice, ‘I never inhaled’. The audience laughed quite a bit.”

http://gawker.com/my-summer-job-at-the-bohemian-grove-serving-milkshakes-1763551409

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 March 2016 01:45 (nine years ago)

Nice to read that Jeb Bush pulled the classic asshole move when told he couldn't get what he wanted when he wanted it: "Do you know who I am?"

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 11 March 2016 04:46 (nine years ago)

seven years pass...

I've been saying this for years: Ken Burns sucks and he always has

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/ken-burns-justice-clarence-thomas-photo-1235597073/

The photo appeared in a ProPublica article published Friday that described previously unknown details about the relationship between Thomas and Koch, claiming that Thomas attended at least two donor events for the Koch’s libertarian political network and was asked to speak to encourage donations. Burns is not mentioned in the article, other than appearing in the lead photo, which the article says was taken at the Bohemian Grove, an all-men’s retreat in Northern California.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 22 September 2023 19:43 (two years ago)

Hard to wash that stench off.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 23 September 2023 00:09 (two years ago)

I think most of my problem with Bohemian Grove is that I never get invited

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 23 September 2023 00:16 (two years ago)

Maybe the invitation got lost in the mail.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 23 September 2023 00:17 (two years ago)

Isn't Ken Burns just an 'executive producer' now? I don't think he's done any actual work for years

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 23 September 2023 00:17 (two years ago)

I'm an actual bohemian, I should be a shoo-in

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 23 September 2023 00:26 (two years ago)

exactly, I can roll around naked in the forest at least as well as clarence thomas can, let me in

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

brb writing a short story called “Why hasn’t Bohemian Grove burned down yet?”

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 00:19 (two years ago)


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